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05-27-2018 , 09:39 PM
IDK he either super arrogant to tell me aka the high horse to solve different game since lhe is lol no one plays anymore in a lhe forum or stupid since it impossible to solve for 6+ max since Ram limitation even with super computer(take too long) I think what he honestly feel is that I am taking up too much space on this forum bragging about my wins which is reasonable. Nothing more annoying then someone who think he knows a lot due to his winning which I am sadly going to have to tell him is my whole point.

edit: I just realize he said "we". So you saying you are working with someone that trying to solve other games that can be brought for cheaply online. Maybe I crush you and your partner dream of being the first. You should thank me for not wasting your partner times/money

Last edited by DonJuan; 05-27-2018 at 09:46 PM.
05-27-2018 , 10:33 PM
I think out of all this fighting among U.S players the real sad tragedy is the euro/russia players. Should feel quite lucky to be able to get to play against the u.s pop. I am like breakeven on stars and every time I look at the lobby it 5-10 regs fighting for that 10/20-15/30 spot against a decent fish. I was thinking of starting a poker hedge fund and coach/stake bunch of different player region/casino set up an app with all different hand range. Maybe instead of u.s players instead recruit stars players set them up with information in avenue and places to stay.

Last edited by DonJuan; 05-27-2018 at 10:45 PM.
05-27-2018 , 10:41 PM
All you have to do is fly out to Vegas next week and play for the month. Games a lot bigger than 15/30 will be available. Take all the monies. I'll see you end of the month, and then you can thank me.
05-27-2018 , 11:13 PM
Cheering for Uncle Larry!
05-28-2018 , 12:28 AM
Actually I just want to apologize to Sean Synder for calling him arrogant and stupid. Sean Synder is a hero in my book. I always wanted to put in my real full name when I see create your username pop up kind of like the teacher who ask you to fill in your hero I always ask myself who else and put in my name. But never had the courage to. Can someone tell my HERO: Sean Synder there also a location:
05-28-2018 , 12:31 AM
You didn't post in the live forum in the past. His username was HOWMANY.

He is the definition of a hero.
05-28-2018 , 12:45 AM
++1 makes a lot of sense now. I went from donjuanmt to donjuan that a huge jump in boldness. No hard feeling Sean it my bday it that one time of the year where I get excited about reading horoscope and looking up HERO
05-28-2018 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Cheering for Uncle Larry!
I don't even think he made it until your post, but now I can at least send word thru my buddy that multiple people from 2p2 were cheering him on and I won't be lying lol

I paid my $10 and got at least $8.50 in a 90 sec clip - another classic Hellmuth bustout interview.

He goes from shaking hands w his table (mostly Germans) to answering Maria Ho's one or two very general questions by doing the following things (not necessarily in this order) :

- pointing at the camera and looking at the camera while answering Maria's first question, instead of looking at her and not pointing at anything

- promoting some new book, seminar, or phrase; I couldn't really tell what it was just that it had something to do w '#positivity'

- using the word "fraternity" in air quotes to denigrate ze Germans, while revealing they are great players, "probably in the top 200", but they aren't nearly as good as 50-60 other guys he could name, as many of them only have 10% of themselves.

- talking about picking off some German's bluff. In a hand that he lost w/o showdown.

Basically Hellmuth at his finest. Backhanded compliments, self-promotion and WWE-like rehearsed moves were flying. I loved it all
05-28-2018 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
IDK he either super arrogant to tell me aka the high horse to solve different game since lhe is lol no one plays anymore in a lhe forum or stupid since it impossible to solve for 6+ max since Ram limitation even with super computer(take too long) I think what he honestly feel is that I am taking up too much space on this forum bragging about my wins which is reasonable. Nothing more annoying then someone who think he knows a lot due to his winning which I am sadly going to have to tell him is my whole point.

edit: I just realize he said "we". So you saying you are working with someone that trying to solve other games that can be brought for cheaply online. Maybe I crush you and your partner dream of being the first. You should thank me for not wasting your partner times/money

Don, at least in the US nobody does play limit holdem anymore so hes absolutely right you should probabyl focus on solving other games because its infintely more valuable to spend all this time and effort learning other games.

Couple questions. I've put basically 0 time/effort into improving/solving anything to do with limit holdem in the last 5 years. Has i spent this time doing nothing but working on limit holdem, how much better off would I be, fractions of a bb/hour (lets assume I was pretty decent 5 years ago at least).
Since I mostly play live anyways is it even applicable, since its just super exploitve play anyways.


If you are playing 60-120 live and maybee some 1-2+ a few times a week (no idea how often it runs) how much can you really imrpove your winrate anyways if you were to solve (or approximate solving limit holdem)....It seems like the value of going from a 1bb/hour winner to a 1.1 bb/hour winner is less than the benefit of going from a 2bb/hour loser to a 1 bb/hour winner in other games, especically when those other games run more frequently and often and 5-10x the stakes of the largest limit holdem game you are going to find.

Hell take a look at vegas, for the next month there will be some 80-160 games running daily and maybee you get a tiny amount of 2-4 action. If you play mix or big bet you can play basically any limit from 100-200 to 2k-4k and 25-50+ plo and the juicy rio PLO games. if you have the time, resources, and drive you would be crazy to focus this energy on improving your winrate in the 80 holdem game.


Now, Im sure its different for people overseas, but from my perspective it looks like Sean is doing everything right and being able to beat hi stakes mix/big bet live games is going to be infintelymore valuable than anything else you can do with your time.



Here's a hypothetical fun way of asking it. Lets suppose we were going to play 1 table of limit holdem and crossbook, how big of a dog would I be?

Lets also say for fun we wanted to 5-6 table and crossbook, how big of a dog would i be (1 table of limit holdem, badugi, 2-7, o8, badeucy, and stud 8 for fun)


I think its very impressive that and you and some other smart people are able to tale the GTO approach to limit holdem that you do.

Personally, I'm not smart enough to do it, I don't have the time (and its not worth it) but most of all it just seems like a massive waste of time and resources (I did devote a ton of time to limit holdem pre black friday fwiw and massive amounts of time to learning mix games post)

Last edited by Rob...Chill; 05-28-2018 at 04:48 AM.
05-28-2018 , 06:51 AM
My uneducated random guess is he'd be like a 2BB/100 better player than me.
05-28-2018 , 02:17 PM
I hadn't made the connection between SeanSnyder and HOWMANY.

BTW, posting under your wallet name doesn't make you awesome or a hero. The only reason I do it is because I have 20+ years of posting history and reputation capital built up. If I were to do it all over again, I would use a pseudonym.
05-28-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
BTW, posting under your wallet name doesn't make you awesome or a hero.
cool story bro?
05-28-2018 , 02:33 PM
Definitely not.
05-29-2018 , 01:11 AM
wow @ AlanBostick not knowing that HOWMANY = Sean Snyder.

05-29-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
You didn't post in the live forum in the past. His username was HOWMANY.

He is the definition of a hero.
Roger that. And he's one hellava good fisherman and strip club compadre, too.
05-30-2018 , 01:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
I think out of all this fighting among U.S players the real sad tragedy is the euro/russia players. Should feel quite lucky to be able to get to play against the u.s pop. I am like breakeven on stars and every time I look at the lobby it 5-10 regs fighting for that 10/20-15/30 spot against a decent fish. I was thinking of starting a poker hedge fund and coach/stake bunch of different player region/casino set up an app with all different hand range. Maybe instead of u.s players instead recruit stars players set them up with information in avenue and places to stay.
This Hedge Fund sounds like a phenomenal idea.

Just utilize the 90's story from "Fooled by Randomness" by Nassim Taleb.

Just started reading that book finally and there's a story about how in the 90's the Wall Street firms started hiring Russians based on their level of IQ that translated well to Trading in lieu of MBA kids from the 80's who were too much of a math nerd or science nerd.

In turn, stake a bunch of Russian poker players. The book by Taleb had them play Chess as part of the interview which you could do as well for your hedge fund too possibly DonJuan
05-30-2018 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by leo doc
Roger that. And he's one hellava good fisherman and strip club compadre, too.
Also didn't know Sean Snyder = HowMany.

My only wish now would be for ChrisDaddyCool and Ninawilliams to start posting poker hands/comments again circa like 2006?

OT but solid op ed by my idol George Soros on how to fix Europe https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ge...9?link=sfmw_fb
05-30-2018 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
I wouldn't read too much into anything a coors light drinker says
stella you fker who the hell drinks coors light?

When i'm back in LA in a couple months I'll come donk around in the merce 40+ lhe games for a few days and hang out if yall are in town. miss it sometimes... until i actually go and remember how miserable the field is without friends in town lol

edit: also - IMO - transitioning to other games besides LHE is 100% worth your time. Especially if are social enough + street smart enough to navigate the private game scene. rarely play in casinos now... too many rules / headphone nits / the high stakes big bet games are unhealthy or unfun.

Last edited by avoidthe9to5; 05-30-2018 at 09:33 AM.
05-30-2018 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by avoidthe9to5
stella you fker who the hell drinks coors light?

When i'm back in LA in a couple months I'll come donk around in the merce 40+ lhe games for a few days and hang out if yall are in town. miss it sometimes... until i actually go and remember how miserable the field is without friends in town lol

edit: also - IMO - transitioning to other games besides LHE is 100% worth your time. Especially if are social enough + street smart enough to navigate the private game scene. rarely play in casinos now... too many rules / headphone nits / the high stakes big bet games are unhealthy or unfun.
+1 on private games although I'm too busy to play now.

May need to plan a LA trip with my wife to bird the great AvoidThe9to5 since I suspect DonJuan will be in LA at one point as well.
05-30-2018 , 12:15 PM
Ninefingershuffle is still good at playing and posting hands about poker. Next will be posting that Chada Thai had good food, and it is sad they closed.
05-30-2018 , 12:44 PM
Yeah, learning NL is definitely worth the time of people who want to win $ at poker. Even if you're a great fixed limit hold em player, any reasonable stakes game you sit in will likely have 2-3 guys just like you and a bunch of guys that would be a massive stretch to call a fish (compared to the average player population). You play 5/10 NL and a good chunk of the table could still be flat awful.

Basically if you're playing like a 10/8 nit and your opponents are playing 55/15, you're probably going to win without any special ability. And since you can make it expensive for playing way too many hands against you, it's easier to get big value for it.
05-30-2018 , 02:01 PM
If everyone else is playing 55/15, why would you want to play 10/8?
05-30-2018 , 02:08 PM
You can ask some of the LHE posters around these forums in the "I don't play garbage" and "tight is right" camps.


In NL I'd suspect it is due to being lost in a big bet game post flop, so playing only nutted hands might help someone clueless. Don't think jdr said you want to, only that you could and still profit.
05-30-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by avoidthe9to5
stella you fker who the hell drinks coors light?
I was obv referring to the coors light drinker, but if we're going to have that discussion, Stella is even worse.

Coors light at least has one redeeming quality, being probably the best in its category (though admittedly it's a category that should be avoided at all costs), while Stella just flat out sucks in every way, except maybe in that it's super overpriced everywhere and from a fancy country so it may impress some clueless chicks.
05-30-2018 , 02:48 PM
Stella is just Heineken for Walloons.

      
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