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06-10-2015 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Disregard that last post, just saved that deal. Will probably close by the end of the month.

Point kinda stands tho!

When you have super legit people that are appearing and disappearing constantly, it is hard to get excited about a 4 pager for a random consultant.
I think the exact opposite point kinda stands. Never assume a client is out. Also the whole "we need to know immediately!" then "we can't decide for months" is super-standard in the corporate world. It drives me nuts.

As I sit waiting for the T1nder CTO to call who was supposed to call 20 minutes ago. Glad I skipped my workout and re-arranged my whole morning.

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06-10-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Making terrorists use your method of passing messages is a pretty good outcome from the governments point of view. That will significantly increase the difficulty of planning complex operations - and of course significantly increase the chances of getting caught in the game itself.

Not to mention it still catches many of the less sophisticated 'terrorists'.

jjshabado,


But does that imply that open source cryptographic software is effectively a loss for governments? Official/state supported means of communications can and should be be considered compromised, and they almost without exception exist within the corporate sphere, so shouldn't communal, open source communication platforms such as Pidgin/OTR and Tor be considered outside the realm of government and corporate influence, and thus inherently secure?

Cheers!
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06-10-2015 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I hope you get the point that the bar to make something effective isn't that it works 100% of the time with no possible work arounds.

Edit: Your comment also seems to show a lack of understanding of what can be done with the data that's being collected. You might be able to talk to your immediate co-conspirators through completely safe means - but you can't talk to many other individuals in the same way. Any non-trivial plot is going to involve communicating/interacting with a bunch of people that aren't in on the plot.

I think if a flight school got a request to communicate through WoW items being dropped on the ground they might be suspicious of your motivations for learning to fly.

jjshabado,


I think there is an obvious fundamental disconnect between technological capabilities and innovation and public knowledge, and you do raise a very valid point on dissemination of information.

A dissident intending to spread information to a wide audience is limited to technological channels which the larger public is familiar, and a dissident intending to spread information to a specific, technologically capable audience is limited in their capacity to reach a wide audience. Therefor, there exists an obvious disconnect between those dissidents intending to reach a wide audience, and a technologically capable audience. The problem is that some issues, such as government and corporate surveillance, may require both a technologically capable audience, and a wide audience, which at present times, are at odds with each other.

Solutions for bridging this gap must be met, and I'm not sure if it involves just "dumbing down" information to wider audiences to encourage independent learning, or effectively "dumbing down" information to wider audiences through software which is easy to use. My guess lies strongly in the latter, as most people are content to have a solution merely work, without understanding the underpinnings of its effective processes.

So I think the greatest solution would be to make technology that is empowering to wide audiences as simple to use as possible. History seems to show that a couple clicks and a password is simply too much for the general population, as in the case of PGP, which most people simply do not use, because a couple clicks and a password are too complicated, and too much hassle. So the solution to privacy and security seems to be revising protocols and standards to include such functions in an invisible nature, so not even a conscious click or two is required.

The problem I have with this is I cannot do it myself, as I am not a developer, and others must take the initiative, and create new protocols with such implementations. Takers?

That said, I have a problem with the assumptions of your post. Your post seems to assume that only ne'er do wells' advocate for secure, private communications, and this is just not the case. The common argument is that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, but this is not valid, because every person on earth has something to hide, because we all have private thoughts, moments, or situations. We all don't want governments looking at us in our underwear, we all don't want governments knowing the details to our bank accounts, and we all don't want governments knowing the details of every thought of our waking days. So to pose the question merely in terms of evil-doers does a disservice to those seeking and deserving legitimate internet privacy.

Cheers!

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06-10-2015 , 12:41 PM
catsec, I don't really understand a lot of what you're trying to say but I'll leave the political part out. Feel free to start a thread in Politics Unchained for that.

I'll just say that this:

"Your post seems to assume that only ne'er do wells' advocate for secure, private communications, and this is just not the case."

Is completely wrong. My post was in response to the idea that what the NSA did was completely ineffective for their goals. That's pretty obviously (imo) not true and that's all I was saying. I was not commenting at all on my views of the moral 'rightness' of their actions.
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06-10-2015 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I think the exact opposite point kinda stands. Never assume a client is out. Also the whole "we need to know immediately!" then "we can't decide for months" is super-standard in the corporate world. It drives me nuts.

As I sit waiting for the T1nder CTO to call who was supposed to call 20 minutes ago. Glad I skipped my workout and re-arranged my whole morning.
Yea it is super standard.

In this case, I obviously should have sent that email first and then waited for a reply before I used it as an example, and I look kinda silly for saying 1-5%. But I look a whole lot better than telling my CEO that a deal is 90% going to close when we have shared 3 lines of email over the last 2 weeks.

It is better to assume that the prospect will not become a customer, and then work backwards. Too many sales people try and be super optimistic and think every lead will close, when clearly looking at lead to customer ratios, something like 99.9% of B2B leads will never close.
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06-10-2015 , 01:28 PM
good luck with Dinter, suzzer!!!
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06-10-2015 , 01:47 PM
We chatted, I think it went well. We'll see what the next step is.
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06-10-2015 , 03:13 PM
Just saw a report yesterday that German government institutions and companies are ramping up ITsec. They showed 3 examples...all guys wearing suits+ties.
I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that any network with a guy wearing a suit+tie at the helm isn't secure.

Siemens had a dude with long hair and a tshirt who was in charge of embedded stuff. Guess they learned up a bit :P

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What's the easy mode for setting up a single page webapp that is pure frontend (no DB needed). There was some open source landing page+mail collect on AWS on HN today. Something like that (maybe it can be adapted)?
Sorry for combing
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06-10-2015 , 06:09 PM
It seems this is no longer a priority?

There's some girl I been chatting with who seemed to disappear for the past few days. I should consider sending this to her.
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06-10-2015 , 06:11 PM
If by "chatting with" you mean she gave you her number in a bar and has already not returned your calls or texts multiple times - then I say go for it! Next step is do a number trace, figure out where she lives, and leave roses around her door. That melts them every time.
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06-10-2015 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
We chatted, I think it went well. We'll see what the next step is.
Usually dinner followed by some sort of activity.

Oh you were talking about the job and not the recruiter.
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06-10-2015 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I think the exact opposite point kinda stands. Never assume a client is out. Also the whole "we need to know immediately!" then "we can't decide for months" is super-standard in the corporate world. It drives me nuts.
It probably was high priority for her to present the info to her bosses in a particular meeting. Making a decision on the total package is likely not a high priority for the company. At least not one that requires hourly focus.
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06-11-2015 , 03:08 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/20...-what-is-code/

Unintentionally hilarious Bloomberg piece about code. Hilarious because the hypothetical they give mentions how the mobile version of the site is dog****, whereas the Bloomberg video player sits atop several paragraphs on my iPad, rendering them compel tell unseeable.
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06-11-2015 , 03:30 PM
WTF? People are supposed to be at work. Why are they wasting this much time reading that piece and commenting on HN?
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06-11-2015 , 04:28 PM
Sweet **** I don't even think I'm half done.

At least I got this out of the experience

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06-11-2015 , 04:56 PM
Working on my first patent disclosure today. i can't believe I actually get paid for this haha.
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06-12-2015 , 12:44 PM
haven't touched a line of code in 2 weeks. feels glorious
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06-13-2015 , 01:12 AM
So uhh what happened to the thread about dealing with Barry, the bum on the team? It disappeared? Could mods give a reason?
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06-13-2015 , 01:23 AM
Concern of trainwreck, unfortunately.
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06-13-2015 , 01:39 AM
I tried coding after several beers to see if the ballmer peak was real. Unfortunately, I just couldn't give a **** about programming, and alt-tabbed from vim to ****post on the internet.
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06-13-2015 , 01:47 AM
2 beers I can still program. 3 beers I fall off a table. Interestingly I peak at pool at about 5-7 beers, then fall off a table.
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06-13-2015 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Concern of trainwreck, unfortunately.
Do you mean that you were concerned the real Barry might find out about it?
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06-13-2015 , 06:43 AM
Maybe someone from his team read it and recognized the situation
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06-13-2015 , 11:35 AM
last week, I was messing around trying to make something work on a VM after work while drinking some beer. I have a bad habit of making a bunch of directories like temp1, temp2 in the home directory.

so I wanted to wipe the temp dirs out and accidentally typed rm -rf temp *

fortunately it wasn't anything I needed badly but that was a good lesson in the perils of beer+linux
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06-13-2015 , 09:23 PM
think i had another decent idea for an app (since i was apparently beaten to market on my last big one). the market isn't oversaturated, it's somewhat novel, empowers users, and you could theoretically forgo charging a dollar for a download, and instead make a dollar every other time someone used it

i still hope i have as many ideas once i know how to program as i do before i learned x.x
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