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06-02-2016 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
If you're known as a bloat creator, I would assume people would refuse to visit your site unless your bloat adds some value to your users.
This requires users to somehow track bandwidth usage across every site and every app, which is generally implausible. Bandwidth is relatively cheap and it's highly likely that sites will game this so that they charge the maximum that's generally below a threshold that users care about. This can result in all kinds of sites sending useless traffic in the background to charge the user as much as they can get away with. Also this requires every single site to have a relationship with every single ISP under some kind of uniform pricing agreement.

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Again, not to go all Free Market Rah Rah!, but ISPs known to whitelist ads would be ditched by consumers. (because all consumers monitor their bandwidth usage ldo >.>)
Except if consumers were this conscious, ad-blocking at the ISP level would provide zero value - ad-blocking software is already free. It adds negative value because consumers can't choose to view sites that require ad-blocking to be turned off. Consumers already have all the choice and all the control they need in this area.
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06-02-2016 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
If you're known as a bloat creator, I would assume people would refuse to visit your site unless your bloat adds some value to your users.

Again, not to go all Free Market Rah Rah!, but ISPs known to whitelist ads would be ditched by consumers. (because all consumers monitor their bandwidth usage ldo >.>)

I'm not saying you're wrong on anything else, just like having thought experiments every now and then on topics I know barely enough to engage on.
Many top sites, especially SEO optimized sites, are extremely bloated, but this doesn't stop the molasses from dropping into people's mobile phones.

You're entire argument falls apart once you trust the end user to make intelligent decisions about technology. 95% of users see computers and web pages as magic boxes.

Once again, there is more to this than ISPs.
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06-02-2016 , 07:57 PM
The problem with advertising is that the pricing model is screwed up. Right now, they price on impressions and then blame the people who use ad blockers, which is strange because I use ad blockers because I never once clicked on an ad.

They need to change to pay per click.
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06-02-2016 , 08:00 PM
pays per click should go to whatever company can design an ad that's worth clicking, not the content provider, no?

Annoying ads have rendered people ad-blind. I'm not sure many people intentionally click ads these days.
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06-02-2016 , 08:04 PM
getting all As on webpagetest and 100/100 on pagespeed for my current project on the first try is the first time that I sort of thought I might know what I'm doing.
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06-02-2016 , 08:13 PM
Congrats! Yeah your code looked hella tight to me.
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06-02-2016 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
pays per click should go to whatever company can design an ad that's worth clicking, not the content provider, no?

Annoying ads have rendered people ad-blind. I'm not sure many people intentionally click ads these days.
Content provider is a tip of an iceberg.

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06-02-2016 , 08:32 PM
Only way I see to turn the tide on advertisement funded content is true ubiquitous transparent micro payments. Everything else can be gamed fairly easily. Pay per click seems particularly ripe for abuse by bots.
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06-02-2016 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
Content provider is a tip of an iceberg.

Thanks for the panic attack!
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06-02-2016 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Only way I see to turn the tide on advertisement funded content is true ubiquitous transparent micro payments. Everything else can be gamed fairly easily. Pay per click seems particularly ripe for abuse by bots.
AdWords is PPC and you don't need bots to abuse it. Companies post ads on Craigslist to hire people to click competitors ads.
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06-02-2016 , 10:09 PM
So back in January I mentioned to the recruiter over the phone before accepting the internship offer that I had some days planned off during the summer. He said it shouldn't be a problem. Internship hasn't started yet, will be June 13th.

I need 3 days off, June 24th, July 1st and August 5th off. What's my play? Do I email my manager directly and let him know I am requesting those days off? We haven't spoked since the interview, so it be a little weird emailing him?

It feels really awkward asking for days off when I haven't even started yet. This wouldn't be so awkward if I mentioned those days off in the email in the first place. But oh wells.
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06-02-2016 , 10:39 PM
If it is any decent place to work it won't be a problem -- especially since it will likely be unpaid days.
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06-02-2016 , 10:58 PM
I guess I should have mentioned that we do get PTO since we get full benefits. I also could only request 2 days only instead actually. Not do the June 24th. So then I'll only request two days off. I can wait to talk to the boss when I start, or should I email him now?
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06-02-2016 , 11:02 PM
If it was discussed and agreed upon with the recruiter I would just make sure on your first day that it is documented however your team documents days off.
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06-03-2016 , 02:07 AM
Yea I'm probably over thinking this. I'll make sure to discuss it with my boss when I arrive.
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06-03-2016 , 03:26 AM
I know this is a shot in the dark, but does anyone here know a solution to the google-chrome body-> box-shadow bug? (box-shadow works same in firefox and chrome except for when you try to give ur body a box-shadow, it wont work in chrome... view this link in firefox and chrome to see the dif: http://jsfiddle.net/nuXgg/ ).

Anyone know a/the "real" solution?
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06-03-2016 , 03:35 AM
Now that I think about it, might as well take another shot in the dark xD Is anyone here a web-dev-pro that would be willing to give me some pointers? I'm currently in a class (cs 401 - web development) at university and our main project is a web site of our choosing. I decided to make a portfolio / resume website (which I plan to actually host after this class) which I can include on my resume for potential employers to view. I downloaded the standard WAMP package and went from there. Everything for my site is in that wamp directory (wamp/www or localhost folder or w/e), and I could zip it and if you have wamp you could look at my site and tell me what you think / give feedback.

I doubt anyone would be willing to do this but in the off-chance that someone would, I would give you a billion karma pts and be very grateful. I guess let me know here or pm me if awesomeness xD
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06-03-2016 , 08:02 AM
Host that **** on heroku, yo

Alternatively, use github and share it that way

Last edited by Loki; 06-03-2016 at 08:10 AM.
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06-03-2016 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryanb9
I know this is a shot in the dark, but does anyone here know a solution to the google-chrome body-> box-shadow bug? (box-shadow works same in firefox and chrome except for when you try to give ur body a box-shadow, it wont work in chrome... view this link in firefox and chrome to see the dif: http://jsfiddle.net/nuXgg/ ).

Anyone know a/the "real" solution?
uh put your box shadow on the td or table not the tbody or tr? weird bug.

put your portfolio on github for free or pay $10/mo for hosting/custom domain and we'll look at it.
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06-03-2016 , 08:46 AM
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06-03-2016 , 11:38 AM
This seems relevant to the earlier salary discussions...

http://www.kalzumeus.com/2016/06/03/...th-josh-doody/
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06-03-2016 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Benholio
Lol I have run into that problem many times. As a relative CSS novice it blows me away there's no easy way to do it.
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06-03-2016 , 12:51 PM
Node just went mainstream at my company. It's on the approved software list, so you don't have to apply for an exception to use it. Yay right? Well there's one weird constraint:

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For the existing Technology Category
"Middleware | Application Server Frameworks | Other Frameworks"
Adopt version 4.x of Node.JS (6791) from Joyent, Inc. as Mainstream/Standard for the Enterprise
Change Usage Constraint
From: None
To: node.js must not be configured to contact any Internet Repository for modules/packages.
No one is quite sure what that means. Can we still build a tarball on some dev/test environment then push that up to prod? Our prod node servers have no connection to the internet. I'm pushing for the team to assume this is what it means and not ask.

Otherwise it could mean we have to use internal NPM - either through maven central or lexus/nexus - which is being worked on but who knows when it will be working and ready. And even if we can use internal NPM, it's still going out to external NPM for any 3rd party packages. It's all just semantics.

Worst case scenario they try to implement some kind of white-listing process for NPM modules. That would be a complete and utter disaster.

As an aside at the old sub-company role, we pay Joyent like $150k a year and I'm not sure they do anything. We don't use their node platform bundled product - which includes it's own linux build. Their supposed to provide support - but us and the OPS guys basically do everything. Maybe OPS uses them I don't know. I have a feeling it will be the same at the parent company. Big companies just love to pay for useless support contracts.

I talked to a guy at nodesource, and their product seems more in line with what we might use - they have some kind of special node build - but it can live on many flavors of linux. But I've gotten no traction within the company because we always go with the 800 lb gorilla.
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06-03-2016 , 01:03 PM
I think they might mean something like what we have here, where we have a local repo of all the npm packages we use, and they get installed from there. npm requests don't leave our network. (and holy **** do we use a lot of npm packages. Thousands?)
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06-03-2016 , 01:16 PM
I assume it means that you vendor your node dependencies.
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