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11-04-2013 , 11:20 AM
I don't think they are eliminating standard currency. It sounded like they just want it to be cheap and easy to deposit USD and send Rupees to some dude around the world without having to deal with currency conversions yourself or paying big fees.

They would just be a middle man that converts currency X into currency Y for a very small fee. I could be wrong but that's what I got out of their intro video.
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11-04-2013 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
I put a bounty on it which should get you an answer shortly anyway.
holy ****! what a guy! tom if i meet you in person, i'm buying the drinks. thanks so much!

EDIT: also, this is like the SO equivalent of having some rich uncle who randomly buys you some awesome ****!
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11-04-2013 , 01:55 PM
Ripple is bitcoin done all wrong.

Its the same idea but:

The code is closed source.
It is not decentralized.
As far as I can tell, the people who control ripple can issue the currency at will

http://ripplescam.org/
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11-04-2013 , 04:05 PM
Wow so they are their own currency? The video spent a majority of the time talking about currency exchanges. Sounds like they need a better video haha.
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11-04-2013 , 05:37 PM
just started to do my pokerAI GUI and started doing it in java/swing. But my god swing is annoying and ****. Whats c# equivalent and iyo, is it better than swing?
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11-04-2013 , 05:59 PM
If anyone happens to be very familiar with Drupal, I'm trying to find a module that will control Javascript addons. For example, Eloqua, Marketo, Pardot tracking code and being able to see what is enabled/disabled.

Obviously it is ez to just drop the Javascript into it, and a couple 3rd party apps we are using have their own drupal modules, but I would prefer to not have a couple modules and a couple with just the javascript dropped into the code. A little module that works as a manager would be elite.
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11-04-2013 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
install the vimium extension
Apparently there's no provision to toggle back and forth between the two most recent tabs:

Code:
		Manipulating tabs
K, gt	:	 Go one tab right (nextTab)
J, gT	:	 Go one tab left (previousTab)
g0	:	 Go to the first tab (firstTab)
g$	:	 Go to the last tab (lastTab)
t	:	 Create new tab (createTab)
yt	:	 Duplicate current tab (duplicateTab)
x	:	 Close current tab (removeTab)
X	:	 Restore closed tab (restoreTab)
Also what the hell kind of a keyboard shortcut is gT?

I've also been using an extension called recent tabs. It works ok unless you are focused in something like a text-area. Unfortunately, that's mostly when I want them - as I'm copying stuff from one page into a post or Jive document or whatever on another page.

On Firefox the Ctrl-tab plugin works anywhere. Chrome is just a little bitch about giving up control of the Ctrl key. I hate that I can't easily Ctrl-B and Ctrl-U to underline and bold on these forums.

Last edited by suzzer99; 11-04-2013 at 08:08 PM.
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11-04-2013 , 07:48 PM
not sure i understand your question but it's saying K and "gt" are both valid keystrokes for that command.

how they don't use H and L there...
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11-04-2013 , 08:57 PM
Yeah I figured that one out so I ninja edited. Why make me hit shift for a keyboard shortcut?
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11-04-2013 , 09:02 PM
"gT" is vim inspired obv. in vim, eg, "gg" takes you to the top of the document, "7gg" takes you to line 7, stuff like that. read it like "goto". as a mnemonic:

"g0" = go to tab 0 (first one)
"g$" = go to tab at end of line (last one)

"T" and "t" are like "goto tab" maybe, and "T" comes before "t" in ascii, something like that. A stretch, but from a vim background not a huge one.... the whole game is turning weird shortcuts into muscle memory.
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11-04-2013 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker

how they don't use H and L there...
indeed, super annoying
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11-04-2013 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yeah I figured that one out so I ninja edited. Why make me hit shift for a keyboard shortcut?
because there are a finite number of keys?
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11-05-2013 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
Control+L.

As a FED there is simply no alternative to chrome. CDT > Firebug by a huge margin just in simple UI not to mention addons you can dl (or write/tweak). And in pure speed it dominates in every visible metric that I can see.
I'm loving that hot-key. Very nice. I think my productivity just went up 3%. It's also great because add to the mystique of what I'm doing when people watch me work.

irt to FED, my skills begin and end at installing Foundation. Not sure how I feel about that, but it works fine for someone with no design sense. I mean, the basics are easy: top-header with site name, menu, and article space, but once I add anything to this small set, things go downhill really fast.
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11-05-2013 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
...Jive document...
By this, are you talking about: http://www.jivesoftware.com/

If so I would be interested in how you find using Jive.
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11-05-2013 , 08:55 PM
So tomorrow will be Day 3 of my new job (junior C#/.NET developer for those who don't know/remember).

The first day was mostly filling out paperwork, signing off on SOP's, getting a tour, setting up my computer, etc. The senior engineer who it seems like is the guy in charge of me spent pretty much the whole day with me, explaining lots of stuff.

Monday (Day 2) when I came in, I asked him what I should do and he said to just look through the codebase and continue with my C# studies (I am new to the language). So I did that all day and also attended their standard Monday morning developers meeting which was interesting.

Today when I got in I just went to my desk and continued familiarizing myself with the codebase and teaching myself C#. Also attended a meeting with the VP of Software Development with a few other guys who are < 3 months at the company (although they were all QA), which was just a general overview of the services we provide to our clients. At one point the senior engineer sent me an email that he put some DB backups on the server and that he would come over at some point to configure it all. Towards the end of the day I just took it upon myself to configure the MSSQL server on my computer and restore the DB's and whatnot.

Is this pretty standard for a new developer's first few days? It's definitely slightly boring and I feel it's quite inefficient for me to just aimlessly be browsing through the codebase as opposed to giving me some kind of task to do and me just learning/figuring it out as I go along (something I'm pretty good at).

Tomorrow morning should I approach him with this or just go to my desk again and keep doing the same thing?
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11-05-2013 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by derada4
So tomorrow will be Day 3 of my new job (junior C#/.NET developer for those who don't know/remember).

The first day was mostly filling out paperwork, signing off on SOP's, getting a tour, setting up my computer, etc. The senior engineer who it seems like is the guy in charge of me spent pretty much the whole day with me, explaining lots of stuff.

Monday (Day 2) when I came in, I asked him what I should do and he said to just look through the codebase and continue with my C# studies (I am new to the language). So I did that all day and also attended their standard Monday morning developers meeting which was interesting.

Today when I got in I just went to my desk and continued familiarizing myself with the codebase and teaching myself C#. Also attended a meeting with the VP of Software Development with a few other guys who are < 3 months at the company (although they were all QA), which was just a general overview of the services we provide to our clients. At one point the senior engineer sent me an email that he put some DB backups on the server and that he would come over at some point to configure it all. Towards the end of the day I just took it upon myself to configure the MSSQL server on my computer and restore the DB's and whatnot.

Is this pretty standard for a new developer's first few days? It's definitely slightly boring and I feel it's quite inefficient for me to just aimlessly be browsing through the codebase as opposed to giving me some kind of task to do and me just learning/figuring it out as I go along (something I'm pretty good at).

Tomorrow morning should I approach him with this or just go to my desk again and keep doing the same thing?
This is different than my experience, though I will say it may be a good sign that you took some initiative for yourself.

My internship went like this: dive in and get this done. Week one was really about getting the look of the home pages laid out with .Net and making a few silly mistakes.

He then set up a db and create the admin area with a repeater then changed his mind and told me to implement list view. I asked him how I should connect to the database and he told me to google it, then perhaps as a test of my knowledge, told me to just concatenate the queries. Of course, I didn't do such a thing...

I think its pretty cool that they are laid back enough to let you examine stuff and take it slow. Trust me, you will get stuck at some point and you will need to have someone call you out for an amateur (a'la .Net world) mistake, and I would imagine they are just waiting until there is someone available for you when you get really stuck.

That was my experience, and I'm not sure if that is standard either. I was basically tossed into the deep end.
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11-05-2013 , 10:56 PM
I think its fairly common - although I think thats kind of sad.

There's not always a lot you can do about HR type crap, and I think its generally good to get big picture type stuff like it sounds like you got from the VP of Software Development.

But aside from that, this type of introduction to a new employee irritates the hell out of me. Looking through the codebase is a ridiculous task. I'm a big believer in giving people something real to do right from the start. If you don't know the language/codebase then learn it as you go and ask as you need help.
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11-05-2013 , 11:44 PM
Only recently just read about design patterns. Should i be writing code to follow the patterns? Like MVC(MVP) for poker AI? Is it good practice to get into? Is it super important?
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11-05-2013 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
If chrome just let me toggle between tabs easily using a keyboard shortcut, it would be the perfect browser.
ehhh

ctrl+tab = forward
ctrl+shift+tab = back
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11-06-2013 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by derada4
Tomorrow morning should I approach him with this or just go to my desk again and keep doing the same thing?
I suggest hoping the company forgets about you but keeps sending you a paycheck like this guy I read about a few months ago. Wish I could find the link...
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11-06-2013 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jtollison78
I suggest hoping the company forgets about you but keeps sending you a paycheck like this guy I read about a few months ago. Wish I could find the link...
This was the first hit I found: https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/

Still an interesting read if it isn't the one.
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11-06-2013 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
Only recently just read about design patterns. Should i be writing code to follow the patterns? Like MVC(MVP) for poker AI? Is it good practice to get into? Is it super important?
Just focus on refactoring and improving your code. Functions should do one thing. Classes should have one responsibility. Classes should have cohesion - most member functions should operate on most/all of the class variables. Otherwise you can usually split the class into smaller pieces. Functions and classes should be small. Try to limit the use of mutable data.

Read Marin Fowler's book Refactoring. It has great examples of good design.
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11-06-2013 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by derada4
So tomorrow will be Day 3 of my new job (junior C#/.NET developer for those who don't know/remember).

The first day was mostly filling out paperwork, signing off on SOP's, getting a tour, setting up my computer, etc. The senior engineer who it seems like is the guy in charge of me spent pretty much the whole day with me, explaining lots of stuff.

Monday (Day 2) when I came in, I asked him what I should do and he said to just look through the codebase and continue with my C# studies (I am new to the language). So I did that all day and also attended their standard Monday morning developers meeting which was interesting.

Today when I got in I just went to my desk and continued familiarizing myself with the codebase and teaching myself C#. Also attended a meeting with the VP of Software Development with a few other guys who are < 3 months at the company (although they were all QA), which was just a general overview of the services we provide to our clients. At one point the senior engineer sent me an email that he put some DB backups on the server and that he would come over at some point to configure it all. Towards the end of the day I just took it upon myself to configure the MSSQL server on my computer and restore the DB's and whatnot.

Is this pretty standard for a new developer's first few days? It's definitely slightly boring and I feel it's quite inefficient for me to just aimlessly be browsing through the codebase as opposed to giving me some kind of task to do and me just learning/figuring it out as I go along (something I'm pretty good at).

Tomorrow morning should I approach him with this or just go to my desk again and keep doing the same thing?
A fairly common saying in many tech companies is "if you don't get stuff done on your own you're useless". So basically don't wait for tasks to come your way. Look through the bug database and fix a bug
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11-06-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
A fairly common saying in many tech companies is "if you don't get stuff done on your own you're useless". So basically don't wait for tasks to come your way. Look through the bug database and fix a bug
Hmm, I've been in 4 tech companies (4, 4 ah ah ah!) and have never heard that. The idea that someone is going to do something useful on the 4th day is pretty loltastic though.

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11-06-2013 , 05:40 PM
Well real development companies
Accenture wowowow no offense but I hated those clowns. They basically slowed every project we did with them down because their tech staff was slower than our interns

But seriously on day four you should be doing something useful. Day 1 is basically get to know people and setup your development environment, day 2 is browse codebase and talk to people about stuff and day three is typically the "lets see what he does" day. At least that's what I experienced and it seems to be pretty common from talking to people. Those were all fairly small companies with a culture of self-drive though. I have no idea what it's like at bigger ones, you probably spend a day on paperwork, another day having HR explain work procedures etc :P

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