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06-13-2019 , 06:46 PM

#38626

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I've written my own webserver, many times. I used to recommend it actually to budding web devs in the old days. Not for production use, but to really understand the interaction between the client and the server. Plus, it's kind of fun.

You probably shouldn't write your own programming language or compiler but that is not a common trap I think

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06-13-2019 , 06:53 PM

#38627

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Time zones, cross-browser weirdness, test-runners, crypto, soap client, parsers, websocket client/server, http server - what else do you never want to write your own?

Anything SQL compliant

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06-13-2019 , 06:56 PM

#38628

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Originally Posted by jmakin

Anything SQL compliant

In fairness I'm not sure anyone has ever actually accomplished this

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06-13-2019 , 07:00 PM

#38629

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I’d extend that to never write your own query language (or other special purpose language).

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06-13-2019 , 07:06 PM

#38630

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

I’d extend that to never write your own query language (or other special purpose language).

oh god, the place I worked where I wrote the time zone library was also working on it's own query language. It was basically... SQL in XML but missing some features?

Their theory was, not everyone knows SQL, so we'll make this simplified version of it they can use with our product. We can't make it look like SQL though or it'll be confusing to anyone who does know SQL. I quit before they got very far.

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06-13-2019 , 07:39 PM

#38631

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I actually prefer my own OR mapper I wrote to TopLink - because mine only did a few simple things based on naming conventions between the Java objects and table/column names.

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06-13-2019 , 07:40 PM

#38632

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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks

I was actually thinking more of a request/response/session framework like express. I don't know how simple or hard low level HTTP communications are.

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06-13-2019 , 08:25 PM

#38633

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Lol, we’ve been down this exact same road

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06-13-2019 , 08:27 PM

#38634

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I was actually thinking more of a request/response/session framework like express. I don't know how simple or hard low level HTTP communications are.

They're very simple. I've implemented an http server using nothing but bash and common linux tools.

ETA: making a compliant HTTP 1.0 server is easy - making a *fully* compliant 1.1 or higher is somewhat more complicated. It's still doable but if you're making one for laughs there's no point in full compliance.

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06-16-2019 , 01:18 AM

#38635

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06-16-2019 , 09:52 AM

#38636

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I was thinking coo-beck-tull

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06-16-2019 , 01:43 PM

#38637

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Haha everyone at my work says SQL as S-Q-L and it drives me nuts. Am i wrong? It’s sequel.

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06-16-2019 , 03:09 PM

#38638

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Def stealing this

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06-16-2019 , 03:50 PM

#38639

slenderhusband

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Originally Posted by jmakin

Haha everyone at my work says SQL as S-Q-L and it drives me nuts. Am i wrong? It’s sequel.

Both are correct. Likewise, 'sequel' seems completely unnatural to me and I always just spell out the letters.

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06-16-2019 , 04:13 PM

#38640

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Oddly, I prefer sequel but mysql is "my S Q L"

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06-16-2019 , 04:21 PM

#38641

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S Q L for me

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06-16-2019 , 04:29 PM

#38642

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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks

Oddly, I prefer sequel but mysql is "my S Q L"

Post-gray-s-q-l lol

I mostly say sequel. Helps a lot of tools I use spell it out that way anyways. And no sequel

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06-16-2019 , 05:44 PM

#38643

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Sequel

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06-16-2019 , 06:41 PM

#38644

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Originally Posted by jmakin

Haha everyone at my work says SQL as S-Q-L and it drives me nuts. Am i wrong? It’s sequel.

Imo, sequel is the Microsoft product. S-Q-L is generic.

I hope you don't say Postgresequel, lmao

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06-16-2019 , 06:54 PM

#38645

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I pronounce PostgreSQL as 'postgress' with the QL silent. I also associate "sequel" with MS.

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06-16-2019 , 07:12 PM

#38646

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Originally Posted by _dave_

Imo, sequel is the Microsoft product. S-Q-L is generic.

This seems more wrong than thinking there are any colors in Postgres....

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06-16-2019 , 07:24 PM

#38647

suzzer99

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Yeah that's weird.

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06-16-2019 , 08:28 PM

#38648

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To me the MS version is MSSQL and it's worse than literally anything else with SQL in it anywhere

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06-16-2019 , 08:43 PM

#38649

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MS - sequel comes from "Microsoft SQL Server" I believe. People seems to generally say "Sequel Server".

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06-16-2019 , 08:45 PM

#38650

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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks

To me the MS version is MSSQL and it's worse than literally anything else with SQL in it anywhere

Omg yes

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