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10-20-2015 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Seems like you'd be running up against a lot of competition with 35 years of experience.
That competition is retiring and hard to replace because schools stopped teaching cobol.
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10-20-2015 , 01:29 PM
Re: tech bubble, it certainly seems that way, HOWEVER, doesn't that mean there's a good chance it isn't as bad as we think (and/or is the opposite)? The thing about these things is that the mainstream is not supposed to have caught on to it. If everybody was so smart, there wouldn't have been a bubble or it would have already deflated/popped.
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10-20-2015 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoe Lace
I was surprised to not find a "rename file" option in the context menu on osx.
Yeah took me a bit to actually figure out you're supposed to long click. There's also no quick way to create simple textfiles (no context menu item for it at least). They also use strange names for stuff (duplicate or whatever it's called instead of save as for Keynote comes to mind)

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Not sure I understand what you mean with minimizing when picking another window. My windows stay open, just move to the background.
Yeah move to background is what I meant. AFAIK I can't turn that off.

I've already secured some students for usability tests next semester. I'll use Windows only users and expose them to OS X vs. whatever I decide on for Linux (probably KDE) and see how they'll fare for a set of standard tasks.

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No, that's the best measure of what the best OS is for a person who is not familiar with computers. I am obviously comfortable performing basic tasks on any OS. The issue arises when I need to do something a bit more technical, something like viewing email headers to determine if an email's claimed sender is legit. Whenever I try to do something like that on a Mac, it's always an exercise in frustration.
That's exactly how it feels for me. Everything is non obvious. On top of that googling for stuff usually leads to ultrasnarky forum posts and generally mediocre results. Searching for Linux related stuff is tons better in that regard.

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10-20-2015 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Grue
I find osx UI to just be bad. Not friendly, and doesn't do what I want it to do. I like the functionality of one button pageup/pagedown/home/end, especially for coding, and osx doesn't work well with 102 key keyboards. Finder is not easy to work with. There's no "show desktop" hotkey in the vein of windows+d. And there's little things like double clicking on a text file will open it in a brand new sublime window as opposed to making it a tab. Maybe that's sublime's fault but still.

Here's probably my best example: what "alt" keys do you use most with osx, and which do you use the least? By that I mean cmd/control/alt&option/fn. Now look at a macbook keyboard. Note which keys are to the left of space. Now look to what ones are to the right. Yeah. I use fn all the time and almost never use alt&option or control.
Lack of show desktop was frustrating (lol at those gesture thingies...design for all what is that?!). I have reverse mapped the function keys but show desktop is on F11...dunno how I eventually found it or if it was added recently.
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10-20-2015 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
i would say it's like going from a perfectly good plain text editor to microsoft word with the "tool ribbon" fully expanded.

there are only a few things about the smartphone that are legitimate life improvements: decent camera/video in your pocket, GPS apps like waze, and maybe ebook readers. if i'm being objective, i think nearly every other app on my phone is ultimately a distraction and makes my life worse.

EDIT: i could probably think of a few other "good" apps, but i think the cost of the distraction is immense and is essentially invisible because of silent cultural acceptance.
Reading/writing mail and whatever instant messaging you use are the killer apps for me. Internet in your pocket (aka let me google that) is also useful even if I use it rarely. No need for a dedicated music player is also nice.
Maps is also a must have for me as I often use public transportation to travel to cities I haven't been to before/in a long time. Same for an app to check train connections etc.
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10-20-2015 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
I've already secured some students for usability tests next semester. I'll use Windows only users and expose them to OS X vs. whatever I decide on for Linux (probably KDE) and see how they'll fare for a set of standard tasks.
Not sure what you're trying to gauge with that test.

Let's take people only used to windows and subject them to environments where the one's philosophy has been to emulate windows' UI behavior but based on open source software where the other has been following its own path ever since.

It's a bit like taking a group of western children to burger king and a traditional Indian food market to find out what they like more.
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10-20-2015 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
They also use strange names for stuff (duplicate or whatever it's called instead of save as for Keynote comes to mind)
I've been very torn on this since they introduced it a few years ago.

On one hand, I'm irritated whenever Apple changes something that has become common knowledge by almost all computer users.

On the other hand "Duplicate", "Rename", "Move To" is clearly much better than just giving people the traditional "Save As" option that ends up confusing the hell out of non-computer people because they end up with 18 versions of a file all throughout their computer because they don't really get that "Save As" isn't a magic command that does duplicating, renaming, or moving depending on what they'd like to happen.
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10-20-2015 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
The problem is that there's huge pressure to make faster and thinner phones. This is achieved at the cost of battery space because the producers realized that the consumer doesn't care about battery life until after purchase and by then its too late.

I really would prefer a phone with more limited cpu power and a slightly thicker body if it gave me a more reasonable battery life.
I'm let to understand that battery tech has been plateaued for several years now. The only reason our smart phones last longer now than a few years back is because the embedded software people made the phones more efficient. The same batteries, with the same mAh, are pretty much the same ones we were using 10 years ago.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-batteri...etting-better/

Michael Sinkula of Envia Systems, an advanced battery startup in California, crunched the numbers and found the energy stored in a battery in 1995 didn't double until more than a decade later, in 2007. Since then, a battery's energy hasn't even risen by 30 percent. And Envia believes most batteries likely won't have doubled again even by 2021.

FWIW, you can just swap out a battery for an Android, but the batteries are very expensive, so may as well get a new phone instead.
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10-20-2015 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
Re: tech bubble, it certainly seems that way, HOWEVER, doesn't that mean there's a good chance it isn't as bad as we think (and/or is the opposite)? The thing about these things is that the mainstream is not supposed to have caught on to it. If everybody was so smart, there wouldn't have been a bubble or it would have already deflated/popped.
Well when it crashed in 2000, there were a couple years where it was a little tough to get a job, then pretty much every year since the market has been white hot. So even if it's as bad as 2000 it's not that bad.

Of course that assumes a new catalyst will come along - like social internet did after the dotcoms crashed.
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10-21-2015 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I'm let to understand that battery tech has been plateaued for several years now. The only reason our smart phones last longer now than a few years back is because the embedded software people made the phones more efficient. The same batteries, with the same mAh, are pretty much the same ones we were using 10 years ago.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-batteri...etting-better/

Michael Sinkula of Envia Systems, an advanced battery startup in California, crunched the numbers and found the energy stored in a battery in 1995 didn't double until more than a decade later, in 2007. Since then, a battery's energy hasn't even risen by 30 percent. And Envia believes most batteries likely won't have doubled again even by 2021.

FWIW, you can just swap out a battery for an Android, but the batteries are very expensive, so may as well get a new phone instead.
A battery for my note 4 is like 30 bucks on Amazon. A new phone is going to be between 6 and 20 times more expensive.

The trend of making phones without removable batteries should be illegal. It's essentially planned obsolescence.
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10-21-2015 , 01:28 AM
Yeah, selling pacemakers should be illegal, too. :P
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10-21-2015 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blackize5
A battery for my note 4 is like 30 bucks on Amazon. A new phone is going to be between 6 and 20 times more expensive.

The trend of making phones without removable batteries should be illegal. It's essentially planned obsolescence.
The Note 4 will be my last Note since the Note 5 moved to non-removable batteries
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10-21-2015 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I'm let to understand that battery tech has been plateaued for several years now. The only reason our smart phones last longer now than a few years back is because the embedded software people made the phones more efficient. The same batteries, with the same mAh, are pretty much the same ones we were using 10 years ago.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-batteri...etting-better/

Michael Sinkula of Envia Systems, an advanced battery startup in California, crunched the numbers and found the energy stored in a battery in 1995 didn't double until more than a decade later, in 2007. Since then, a battery's energy hasn't even risen by 30 percent. And Envia believes most batteries likely won't have doubled again even by 2021.

FWIW, you can just swap out a battery for an Android, but the batteries are very expensive, so may as well get a new phone instead.
You can't imagine how much money Wintel has spent trying to reduce power consumption when resources go idle. They've been quite successful in reality. They have one hand tied behind their back so to speak with the x86 CISC type architecture.
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10-21-2015 , 09:21 AM
What sort of software or web service do people/interviewers use to remotely examine code in real time/communicate with the coder?

Some folks at school are having issues in a class I'm in, but I'll be goddamned if I want to have to leave my house to go help someone out.
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10-21-2015 , 09:42 AM
github?
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10-21-2015 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib
What sort of software or web service do people/interviewers use to remotely examine code in real time/communicate with the coder?

Some folks at school are having issues in a class I'm in, but I'll be goddamned if I want to have to leave my house to go help someone out.
TeamViewer is good for these kinds of things.
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10-21-2015 , 10:11 AM
http://collabedit.com/. It sort of sucks but generally works.
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10-21-2015 , 10:22 AM
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It sort of sucks but generally works.
I pray this is their motto.

thought about team viewer, but i hear that has lots of ads and nag screens these days.

and i worry github might be too advanced for this instance.

*edit*

I guess there is a github track on codecademy now though...

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10-21-2015 , 10:53 AM
If github is too complex and teamviewer too naggy, then google hangouts should work
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10-21-2015 , 11:06 AM
Cheers, thanks all for the recommendations
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10-21-2015 , 11:24 AM
Ya, Google hangouts seems to be the lightest weight way to screen share out there.
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10-21-2015 , 11:28 AM
We used google for our software project and i just dropped source files in their for my programmers, worked ok
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10-21-2015 , 11:32 AM
I'm still blown away by how much worse screen sharing is on Lync vs Webex. Didn't they buy Skype?? I feel like I'm missing something if this is the best they can do.
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10-21-2015 , 11:37 AM
Is it webex that offers the options of sharing control of the shared screen (as in both people can control the mouse and type)? That was a pretty awesome way to remotely work on code with someone but I haven't used webex in years.
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10-21-2015 , 11:42 AM
it appears jj has figured out how to hack HN. trending right now on front page:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...ooms-1.3274903
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