How is this thread still not locked or at the very least moved?

Unsurprisingly, there is a correlation between dumb people and Jesus freaks.

Pfft, anyone who's taken acid and watched Logan's Run can tell you that.

Given enough time it can be absolutely proven that there are or are not purple bears on Pluto. All that is needed is the technology to be developed to allow us to thoroughly explore Pluto in search of them. But at this time we also have a reasonable basis to confidently suppose that there can be no such creatures although we can not rule them out entirely. This is different from arguing about whether there is or is not a God or a Heaven/afterlife. It may be that we will never have the technology to determine the truth. It may be that we are unable to even know what to look for. You will have noticed, I hope, that I did not claim that there is a God or Heaven. I lol'd at anyone who thinks that they can dismiss the possibility just because science hasn't shown it or that they think religion is a joke.

How many people who have never heard about Christian Heaven or Hell had near-death experiences that resembled exactly Christian Heaven or Hell?

Hint: it is probably zero not counting the "bright light" part since scientists figured out how to trigger that in like 1960.

Stubborn claims of God's non-existence are just as dumb as the ones that say he does exist.

Maybe if by "God" you mean "something really powerful we don't understand." The way OP and other people use "God" subjects them to much more scrutiny (and ridicule) though.

Their version of God always smuggles in extra personality traits and is intrusive and interested in human affairs. A God explained like that almost certainly does not exist--for the same reason as the Pluto bears.

Of course reasonable people do not rule out awesome-things-we-can-not-define. However, religious people who invoke capital G-o-d are equivocating on the idea of "something else" and *their* wishful thinking about what this God should be.

my god man are you dense? can you really not see the logical conclusion to this weak counterargument? here it is this will be mind blowing for you:

the purple bears are invisible and also have the ability to dissipate their molecules into the air for any amount of time they deem necessary. so you can't disprove them because a) they are invisible and b) even if you could come up with some device that would ID them they could just be dissipated at that time. so in conclusion the bears are great and you are stupid.

Did you really just say "Christianity must be true because we get presents?"

When AlexM says "No" he doesn't mean "0.000% chance." But even if he did, 0% is a much better guess than >50%.

I really think this is the dumbest post I have read on 2+2. I'm not even sure what it really means.

Maybe the people who deounce the church still attend their children's religious services for the sake of being there for them? There's a difference between attending a service, and participating in the service. I attended catholic grade school, and I would say about 50% of the kids familes who also attended weren't religious, but enrolled tehir children because public schooling in the area sucks.

Your Chrismas anaology makes no sense either. Pretty funny how someone as religious as yourself refers to it as "xmas."

When you die, if you get a choice between regular heaven and pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmm, boy.

How the **** is that a miracle?

OP,

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

That's great...Is that an original? (sounds like a Jack Handy "Deep Thought")

OP,

What's more important to you, the future or the present?

+1M

edit: holy **** the latest responses from OP are *amazing*

Hehe, that's exactly what it is.

omg, I can't believe I almost missed this gem...I'd like to thank some higher power for drawing my attention to it

Saying it is impossible for a higher being (or far more likely, a race of higher beings) to exist is obviously ******ed. The universe is so unfathomably vast and old that life is virtually sure to have somewhere evolved far enough above ours that we would consider them gods, which wouldn't take very much at all. But saying that a specific religious god that some civilization at some point in our history decided to believe does not exist is really not lol-worthy at all. It's pretty reasonable to reduce the likelihood of any specific deital/creator-of-universe/afterlife claim to approaching zero given the infinite possibilities and lack of any reason to distinguish any of them from another, i.e. lack of any non-faith-based merit for any particular one.

My guess is he does.

No I can see why we exchange presents because Jesus died.. What? Of course it is a made up holiday. Who the **** thinks: "Oh poop, this Jesus guy died, wanna have sweater?"

Ofc Ive only been visiting heaven once, and never read a bible, so I could be wrong.

If you're talking about any "god", yes. If you're talking about the Christian God, no. The Christian God is easily disproven by reading the Bible.

Then you are ******ed.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.