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06-25-2010 , 07:41 PM

#13001

JtotheF

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[QUOTE=JtotheF;19831364]maybe i'm interpreting fifa's "laws of the game" wrong here...

A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any
of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be
careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent[/QUOTE

i don't think it was any of these...and the pic directly above seems to decisively prove this...am i the only one here who's not drunk or high?

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06-25-2010 , 07:42 PM

#13002

Dudd

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Incidental contact, no pass interference imo

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06-25-2010 , 07:43 PM

#13003

sethypooh21

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running across the back of a guy while he's running is at best careless.

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06-25-2010 , 07:47 PM

#13004

YouR_DooM

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Originally Posted by JtotheF

i don't think it was any of these...and the pic directly above seems to decisively prove this...am i the only one here who's not drunk or high?

As I said, to me it looks more like an accidental "trip", as he never looks at torres, so I wouldn't have given a foul here. Still, he trips him 100% and in the heat of the game, the ref might not have seen the chile player looking in a different direction.

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06-25-2010 , 07:50 PM

#13005

JtotheF

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Originally Posted by Dudd

Incidental contact, no pass interference imo

i wanted to call "incidental contact" myself, but the words aren't even expressed in fifa's laws of the game and in fact, what i copy/pasted is that is written about such events...

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06-25-2010 , 07:50 PM

#13006

WorldCupFever

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the ref shoulda let it go.. i mean spain scored on that play
cmon now

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06-25-2010 , 07:51 PM

#13007

WorldCupFever

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i think he would have thought twice about doing it if it was puyol on a chilean player

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06-25-2010 , 07:54 PM

#13008

ekky

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[QUOTE=JtotheF;19831528]

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Originally Posted by JtotheF

maybe i'm interpreting fifa's "laws of the game" wrong here...

A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any
of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be
careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent[/QUOTE

i don't think it was any of these...and the pic directly above seems to decisively prove this...am i the only one here who's not drunk or high?

you dont think running closely behind someone and clipping their leg is careless? if you did that on an underground station, it would be careless, and you'd get a smack in the yap for your troubles

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06-25-2010 , 07:58 PM

#13009

JtotheF

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Originally Posted by YouR_DooM

As I said, to me it looks more like an accidental "trip", as he never looks at torres, so I wouldn't have given a foul here. Still, he trips him 100% and in the heat of the game, the ref might not have seen the chile player looking in a different direction.

which is why people are frustrated obv - it's guilt before proven innocence...reminds me of the nfl in that it's always the second guy that throws a punch that gets penalized, never the first (if the ref never saw it)...then again, the penalty in the nfl is never to take a man off the field, which is why the refs/fifa need to take greater care...

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06-25-2010 , 08:00 PM

#13010

ekky

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I doubt the chilean suffers from tunnel vision.

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06-25-2010 , 08:07 PM

#13011

JtotheF

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Originally Posted by ekky

you dont think running closely behind someone and clipping their leg is careless?

ONLY if it is the intent...otherwise running behind someone (in addition to running in front of or aside them) is something that is likely to happen in this sport...you do know that, right?

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06-25-2010 , 08:12 PM

#13012

Redmen62

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I cannot ****ing believe there are people defending that call. I just do not get it.

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06-25-2010 , 08:29 PM

#13013

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

Russia, Ireland, Croatia, Sweden...

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06-25-2010 , 08:31 PM

#13014

ikestoys

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Originally Posted by sethypooh21

He runs across the back of him and his knee hits Torres's trailing foot and knocks it into his other foot.

Edit: I think this would be clearer if the gif started just a tiny bit sooner

it's not recklesss, dangerous or excessive.

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06-25-2010 , 08:34 PM

#13015

kazana

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i assume the guy wouldn't have been booked for that if he shouldn't have been booked for the foul committed a few minutes earlier but was left off the hook.

don't quite get the ongoing arguing about that call, either.

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06-25-2010 , 08:34 PM

#13016

Bigindiemen

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

Cool, I am not being critical or anything just saw a few players I wouldn't have etc.

My team of the round:

GK: Benaglio (SWI)
DF: Coentrao (POR)
DF: Fucile (URU)
DF: Lahm (GER)
DF: Maicon (BRA)
MF: Honda (JPN)
MF: Ozil (GER)
MF: Riveros (PAR)
MF: Alonso (SPA)
FW: Messi (ARG)
FW: Forlan (URU)

Some pretty tough omissions that have big arguments for inclusion.

Van Bommel should be in there imo. Clearly Hollands best player and the real motm against Denmark and Japan. Hard to take one out tho

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06-25-2010 , 08:36 PM

#13017

ekky

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not looking where you are going is the very definition of reckless ffs

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06-25-2010 , 08:41 PM

#13018

Bigindiemen

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Somebody start a "discuss all controversial calls during the WC for 4531 posts containment thread"

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06-25-2010 , 08:42 PM

#13019

Vintage00

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Just had a WC draft with a buddy of mine, heads up. I won first pick.

My teams
- Germany
- Mexico
- Japan
- Spain
- United States
- Netherlands
- Slovakia
- Brazil

His teams
- Uruguay
- South Korea
- Ghana
- Chile
- England
- Argentina
- Paraguay
- Portugal

I think I have the best of it by a pretty considerable margain, but I'm curious to see what SE thinks.

Last edited by Vintage00; 06-25-2010 at 08:43 PM. Reason: obv teams not listed in draft order

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06-25-2010 , 08:45 PM

#13020

Bigindiemen

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Depends on format and draft order but yeah your teams look way better

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06-25-2010 , 08:45 PM

#13021

ikestoys

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lol he let you get brazil, spain, germany and the netherlands?

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06-25-2010 , 08:48 PM

#13022

JtotheF

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Originally Posted by ekky

not looking where you are going is the very definition of reckless ffs

now that's the best level/thread winner i've seen in any of the world cup threads to date...wp...

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06-25-2010 , 08:50 PM

#13023

ekky

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you have spain and brazil, i doubt there is a possible draft that makes another team favourite if one side contains those two teams, and with holland/germany in the draft as well, you are a massive fav.

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06-25-2010 , 08:53 PM

#13024

Vintage00

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We coinflipped for first pick (I won if odd # goals between the later matches today, he wins if even # of goals), then just went back and forth.

Turns out I could have gotten Uruguay instead of the US in retrospect, but I got mad respect for WIM

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06-25-2010 , 08:53 PM

#13025

Dudd

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Originally Posted by ekky

not looking where you are going is the very definition of reckless ffs

Given that Torres is also not looking where he's going, I'm going to say that sometimes, running while looking at the ball is considered a normal part of the game

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