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11-21-2013 , 11:17 AM
you guys all seem to think the worst of everyone. Some people actually want to make amends. I have no idea if tdomeski is one of these types, but not all people are out there to screw people over.
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11-21-2013 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
you guys all seem to think the worst of everyone. Some people actually want to make amends. I have no idea if tdomeski is one of these types, but not all people are out there to screw people over.
the type of people who steal $15K generally are
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11-21-2013 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
you guys all seem to think the worst of everyone. Some people actually want to make amends. I have no idea if tdomeski is one of these types, but not all people are out there to screw people over.
God forbid anyone think the worst of someone who stole 15 thousand dollars to gamble with. Lol
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11-21-2013 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever.
What is this from? I feel like I've heard this before
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11-21-2013 , 11:34 AM
1) He needed to steal $15k in the first place. If he's such a great poker player, where the **** was his bankroll?

2) He just blew $15k. He's not in a good place psychologically. At best, he's on super mega life tilt.

3) He's the kind of guy who degens away $15k. He's vulnerable to a degen meltdown at any moment. The next time he gets drunk, he might blow half his stake on black jack or betting against riverboat ron

4) Working and playing poker are not mutually exclusive. He can work his ass off and do both to pay back as quickly as possible.
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11-21-2013 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
What is this from? I feel like I've heard this before
"I always looked up to Mike Vick and I always will, because I still think he is one of the best quarterbacks," Pryor said. "I love Mike Vick."
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11-21-2013 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ShimmyBasis
1) He needed to steal $15k in the first place. If he's such a great poker player, where the **** was his bankroll?

2) He just blew $15k. He's not in a good place psychologically. At best, he's on super mega life tilt.

3) He's the kind of guy who degens away $15k. He's vulnerable to a degen meltdown at any moment. The next time he gets drunk, he might blow half his stake on black jack or betting against riverboat ron

4) Working and playing poker are not mutually exclusive. He can work his ass off and do both to pay back as quickly as possible.
+1
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11-21-2013 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
you guys all seem to think the worst of everyone. Some people actually want to make amends. I have no idea if tdomeski is one of these types, but not all people are out there to screw people over.
Yes, I think the worst about someone who stole $15,000. Crazy me.
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11-21-2013 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by S.K
Guy won 500k in two tournaments yet had to steal your 15k.. How? What a failure
Pretty much this. I mean seriously. Degens gonna degen
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11-21-2013 , 11:38 AM
I agree with CDL.

though I don't think most of us are being too hard on him. the behavior needs to be discouraged at all costs. having said that, tdomes seems like a good person and he has already stated his intention to pay back. I think he should get that chance and, if he does make amends, a pardon from the community for this one-time demonstration of very poor judgement. pardon obviously comes with a mental asterisk: don't let this guy handle your $.

(not to mention the actual commitment to paying something back actually demonstrates character. of course it would be much more significant if he wasn't trying to spike a score with poker, but I'm going to stay out of the poker discussion as I am unfamiliar with the games these days, as well as his skill).
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11-21-2013 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeJayOrTJ
People just don't get poker in this thread. It was 5 years ago. After taxes that's 300k. 5k a month living expenses and it's gone. There was also this Black Friday problem where maybe he had a ton tied up on FTP. It seems rather unlikely tho because I imagine he could have privately sold that and not have this thread exist. Either way if I was owed 15k I would want this guy playing poker and not working for 15 bucks an hour.
Agree. I think people need to stop referring to his $500k score from 5 years ago. He was a young poker player when he won that, not an investor. He probably balled out for 2.5 years.

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
you guys all seem to think the worst of everyone. Some people actually want to make amends. I have no idea if tdomeski is one of these types, but not all people are out there to screw people over.
I kind of agree with CDL here. The whole world is not terrible. What he did was terrible, and he is terrible for doing it, but his intentions don't have to automatically be in the wrong place.
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11-21-2013 , 11:40 AM
"Seems like a good person."

Jesus.
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11-21-2013 , 11:40 AM
is this guy an mtt-er? never trust someone without a consistent grind with an escrow unless its somene with all the money liek timex.

jfc just watched the vid, esp some georgia frat bro who looks like he was crushing 6 years ago. dont mean to pile on though, gl getting your money back.
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11-21-2013 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal
oh
my
god
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11-21-2013 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ShimmyBasis

4) Working and playing poker are not mutually exclusive. He can work his ass off and do both to pay back as quickly as possible.
he would be very wise to take this advice. if he puts his free time towards a second job most of the haters would probably let his continuing to play poker on a stake slide. I think it would be an honest and reasonable compromise on his end, and depending on how hard he worked, a very good show of character.

also, getting some work experience wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for a mid 20 year old who is struggling with poker
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11-21-2013 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
if i had any integrity at all and owed people 15k i would spend every hour either working or trying to find real work instead of a strategy where i hope to get lucky gambling someone else's money and either win it back or don't pay up anyway
Yeah, but you see the obvious problem there. A person with the integrity to do this doesn't blow the money in the first place. Nor does a person with that type of work ethic.
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11-21-2013 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
he would be very wise to take this advice. if he puts his free time towards a second job most of the haters would probably let his continuing to play poker on a stake slide. I think it would be an honest and reasonable compromise on his end, and depending on how hard he worked, a very good show of character.

also, getting some work experience wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for a mid 20 year old who is struggling with poker
Also, getting into a routine, learning some discipline, and working hard for money will probably be very good for him in the long run.
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11-21-2013 , 11:50 AM
It would be much easier to determine the decision to stick with poker if we knew what games he was being staked for and what he's playing. However, dude just went on a $15k downer and is getting staked. Even if he's playing 5/10 live staked, and a decent winner in the games - his hourly will still be worse on average than if he just worked two jobs. Not to mention that a job will provide steady, guaranteed money and the fact that he's a degenerate in a bad mental state right now.

That he says he can't get a job making more than $500 a week is ridiculous. Busboys make that and you can have more than one job.
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11-21-2013 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Yeah, but you see the obvious problem there. A person with the integrity to do this doesn't blow the money in the first place. Nor does a person with that type of work ethic.
I don't think being a degenerate gambler or making a series of bad decisions and having integrity are mutually exclusive. Gamblers, degenerates, and even general action junkies often go way too far in their pursuit of big scores or adrenaline rushes. Their lives and character outside of these endeavors are often far different from the decisions that lead them down these roads. These types, and other generally more common personality types, often suffer allusions of grandeur that result in temporary mental disconnects that put them in bad spots if their decisions turn out to be for the worst. It is possible that tdomeski had one of these disconnects and upon realizing his mistake had no better solution to right the wrong than to keep trying to get it back the only way he knew how. I have no idea how likely this is, nor am I a mental health professional, but it is definitely something within the realm of reason.
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11-21-2013 , 11:53 AM
Well he stole 15 thousand dollars and blew it all gambling.

But he feels bad about it and wants to pay it back so we should go easy on the guy.

Lol sympathisers.
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11-21-2013 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by darO
Well he stole 15 thousand dollars and blew it all gambling.

But he feels bad about it and wants to pay it back so we should go easy on the guy.

Lol sympathisers.
No surprise CDL playing devil's advocate defending a guy who stole 15k from the community.

I'm sure he'd be singing the same tune had he won this pool and tdome owed him 15k.
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11-21-2013 , 12:00 PM
Pretty sure cdl is a banker and blowing through escrows is just part of everyday life.
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11-21-2013 , 12:02 PM
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I don't think being a degenerate gambler or making a series of bad decisions and having integrity are mutually exclusive.
Playing with money you should be escrowing sure is though.

Again, what he did was not a "bad decision." It was doing something he knew to be completely wrong an unacceptable. Over a reasonably long period of time.
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11-21-2013 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
I don't think being a degenerate gambler or making a series of bad decisions and having integrity are mutually exclusive. Gamblers, degenerates, and even general action junkies often go way too far in their pursuit of big scores or adrenaline rushes. Their lives and character outside of these endeavors are often far different from the decisions that lead them down these roads. These types, and other generally more common personality types, often suffer allusions of grandeur that result in temporary mental disconnects that put them in bad spots if their decisions turn out to be for the worst. It is possible that tdomeski had one of these disconnects and upon realizing his mistake had no better solution to right the wrong than to keep trying to get it back the only way he knew how. I have no idea how likely this is, nor am I a mental health professional, but it is definitely something within the realm of reason.
yeah, i think you're on the right lines, if you want to get behind the moral judgements* and get to the psychology of the matter

*i'm not saying you should, because obviously moral judgements have a role to play in any society or culture (including the internet pokers)
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11-21-2013 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
Well he stole 15 thousand dollars and blew it all gambling.

But he feels bad about it and wants to pay it back so we should go easy on the guy.

Lol sympathisers.
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No surprise CDL playing devil's advocate defending a guy who stole 15k from the community.

I'm sure he'd be singing the same tune had he won this pool and tdome owed him 15k.
I'm not sympathizing nor am I defending him. I am actually not coming to any conclusion at all about his character. I have one very bad data point and many small, but positive data points on his character. This information is not near enough to form an opinion on him that has any reasonable amount of accuracy. I am merely wondering why people think they can judge his character well from this at all, especially as it is still in its early days. tdomeski could be a completely horrible person or have quite good character and have made a series of poor decisions; the point is that I have no clue.

also, I have been scammed on 2p2 before, have written it off as the cost of gambling on here, and have no ill will toward the guy that scammed me. Of course I wasn't happy at the time, nor would I expect anyone else to be, but it happens and life goes on.

I am not sure why people often struggle so hard with reading comprehension.
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