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Super Bowl XLVIII: Seattle Seahawks (GOAT D) v. Denver Broncos (goats) (-2.5, 48)

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Seattle by 7+

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Peyton GOAT if he wins

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01-22-2014 , 12:28 AM

#176

LKJ

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich

I know it sounds like gutless hedging, but I'd be more or less okay with the Seahawks losing the Super Bowl. Not happy by any means, but no shame in losing to the GOAT. Whereas I would have been a ****ing wreck if they'd lost the NFCCG.

I feel a little bit of this sentiment too, though I'm trying to shrug it off. And it's not like I want to downplay how important it is to me to see us win this game, but I think I'm still overcome with relief by the fact that the absolute worst disaster in sports history didn't happen at the end of that final SF drive the other day.

After a week of knowing that I'd essentially been forced into the biggest sports-related emotional gamble of my life, the fact that we won it is still resonating more than any worries about this game at this point. I'm sure it will wear off before SB Sunday; think it's just taking a bit of time.

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01-22-2014 , 12:30 AM

#177

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in a sport where parity is of the utmost and a return is never guaranteed one should never be okay with their team losing the super bowl

the greatest qb of all time is playing in the super bowl for only the 3rd time ever. c'mon now

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01-22-2014 , 12:37 AM

#178

goofball

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich

ew.

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01-22-2014 , 12:44 AM

#179

LKJ

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

in a sport where parity is of the utmost and a return is never guaranteed one should never be okay with their team losing the super bowl

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

The good news: Niners were 5 yards away from not only the biggest comeback in Super Bowl history, but BY FAR the biggest comeback in Super Bowl history. Not even remotely bad for a guy in his 10th career start. ****ing brutal not to win obviously, but Kaepernick has nowhere to go but up. His clock management ability, his no-huddle ability, seriously, they can't be any worse than they are right now. When that improves the dude will be more lethal than he already is. Virtually every major player is back next year PLUS they're in the front of the pack for Revis to plug up the biggest deficiency they have. Ravens won. They beat the Broncos and Pats on the road and the 9ers on a neutral field. They deserved it, unquestionably. Flacco lols at his haters and everything of that nature. But on the plus side the 9ers have the makings of a dynasty

2012: 1 play away from making the Super Bowl
2013: 1 play away from winning the Super Bowl
2014 and onward: May never lose a game again

Awesome season that gave birth to a superstar QB the 9ers have been lacking since Young (lol Garcia). Not even mad. Thrilled for what's to come. Congratulations Ravens fans

Location: There is no need to be upset

FWIW your reaction ITT is clearly correct which is why I'm trying to shake the same feeling that Sando has rather than owning it at all, but I totally identify with what he's saying because the absolutely ****ing terrifying fear of losing our season to your evil bastards really did a number on my psyche and I gather that it did on his as well.

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01-22-2014 , 12:46 AM

#180

StoppedRainingMen

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well then

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01-22-2014 , 12:55 AM

#181

A-Rod's Cousin

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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley

anyone notice how john elway looks like those evil oil men from There Will Be Blood on the sideline now?

Isn't he a 33rd degree Freemason or something? He's probably the city of Denver's illuminati representative.

And Elway has always been creepy. Those teeth - that giant head - the 1990s used car commercials.

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Really? You'd be happy with your team getting to the Super Bowl and losing?

Man, must be tough.

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01-22-2014 , 01:00 AM

#182

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This superbowl reminds me a lot of the TB-OAK superbowl. That year OAK was the pass happy high scoring offense that had trouble when a talented defense had two weeks to prepare for them. On the other side we have SEA offense and DEN defense, both of whom are good, but not great (which is kind of how I remember TB offense and OAK defense being).

I think that game opened with OAK as ~3pt favorite, but TB won easily. I see this one coming out similarly. I hope I'm wrong though, primarily because I'd like to see a much more interesting game.

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01-22-2014 , 01:10 AM

#183

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Originally Posted by gravy_train

can someone get me the numbers over the last year. I am trying to find out what the QBR of pocket QBs was against Seattle this year. I can't really find it anywhere a link would be awesome too.

is it as simple as adding the 18 QB's QBR then dividing by 18 or is that going to mess up the QBR forumla. I tried to explain to my friend the other day just how badly SEA kills pocket QB. He wasn't buying it but i know there has to be #'s supporting it somewhere.

all things considered, on the road seattle was pretty mediocre defending the pass (compared to their reputation, anyway)

i mean they beat the everloving **** out of eli and clemens, but eli was historically terrible this year and clemens sucks. before that terrible pick 6 in the end schaub was torching them, scam went 16/23 without a pick (only 125 yards though), luck 16/29 without a pick, ryan 23/36 without a pick. even kaep only threw 1 pick

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01-22-2014 , 01:20 AM

#184

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I think comparing a journeyman QB having an outlier to a top 3ish OAT with elite weapons is a bit of a leak.

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01-22-2014 , 01:22 AM

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If Peyton Manning can stay upright I can see him easily putting up 30+ on Seattle.

If Denver can do what they did to NE and control the run game and make the QB beat them I think Denver wins.

If the weather gets bad and wind starts blowing I gotta give the edge to Seattle.

Show be a great game tho!

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01-22-2014 , 01:24 AM

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I think the ability to change the plays, which is probably next to impossible at CLink, takes away a good bit of their edge on D. Perhaps I'm rationalizing, but watching the games again I'm not that scurred.

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01-22-2014 , 01:26 AM

#187

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afa the weather, does the game really benefit Seattle in that case? I know PFM noodlearm and all, but I would think Denver is not only more used to the cold, but they've also had a lot of success in it this season.. Sounds like one of those cliches that doesn't hold up to the stats test. Peyton plays worse, but so do all the other QBs no?

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01-22-2014 , 01:42 AM

#188

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

Not that these aren't flawed stats, but I can't quickly find any advanced metrics with home/away splits. Maybe someone else can.

Seahawks gave up 344 total yards per game at home, 293 total yards per game away. Seahawks gave up 13.8 points per game at home, 15.1 points per game away. Sorting by win/loss, the Seahawks' road slate was tougher than its home slate.

The massive split that you're looking for when it comes to Seattle playing outside of the Clink really isn't strongly there from anything I can see. Sure they'd certainly be better off playing the game at home, but that's true of everyone.

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01-22-2014 , 01:49 AM

#189

STA654

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Originally Posted by BeauVanny

If Peyton Manning can stay upright I can see him easily putting up 30+ on Seattle.
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wind starts blowing I gotta give the edge to Seattle.

how feeble do you think peyton is, exactly?

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01-22-2014 , 02:15 AM

#190

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I don't think there are stats that can back this up because Seattle has literally faced nothing but mediocre QBs + Luck and Brees, with the latter enjoying a bum wheel on his top receiver.

Too many moving parts to do anything but hypothesize unfortunately, or fortunately.

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01-22-2014 , 02:49 AM

#191

MrWookie

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Yeah, I hear you. Shutting down Brees and Graham twice is something any defense can do. Also, don't let anyone hear that you called a football player me-di-o-cre.

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01-22-2014 , 03:03 AM

#192

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DONT YOU TALK ABOUT THE BEST!!!

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01-22-2014 , 03:06 AM

#193

BeauVanny

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Originally Posted by STA654

how feeble do you think peyton is, exactly?

Peyton's ball flutters, wind would not help him.

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01-22-2014 , 03:08 AM

#194

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

So Rich Gannon=Peyton Manning? I must have missed his induction into the HOF.

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01-22-2014 , 03:43 AM

#195

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from the ashes a fire shall be woken
a light from the shadows shall spring
renewed shall be blade that was broken
GOAT Manning again shall be king

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01-22-2014 , 03:48 AM

#196

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

This superbowl reminds me a lot of the TB-OAK superbowl. That year OAK was the pass happy high scoring offense that had trouble when a talented defense had two weeks to prepare for them. On the other side we have SEA offense and DEN defense, both of whom are good, but not great (which is kind of how I remember TB offense and OAK defense being).

I think that game opened with OAK as ~3pt favorite, but TB won easily. I see this one coming out similarly. I hope I'm wrong though, primarily because I'd like to see a much more interesting game.

The bolded is incorrect. There was no extra week between the Championship games and the Super Bowl that year.

TB crushed OAK because Gruden coached OAK the year before, and OAK never changed their audibles. Gannon threw 5 INT's because he would audible into the sluggo-seam, and he threw it right to a Buc because they knew that's where he was going with the ball.

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01-22-2014 , 03:50 AM

#197

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tough to blame seattle fans for emotional hedging imo. no shame in losing to the GOAT and their team is clearly setup to have a great chance to get back to the SB in the next few years. beating the niners was arguably a bigger game than the super bowl for them.

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01-22-2014 , 03:53 AM

#198

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Still incredible that this happened. This was the moment America knew that Bill Callahan was a ****ing idiot.

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01-22-2014 , 03:56 AM

#199

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Originally Posted by Anacardo

Still incredible that this happened. This was the moment America knew that Bill Callahan was a ****ing idiot.

From Wikipedia's SB XXXVII page:

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As many sports fans and writers predicted, Gruden's prior knowledge of the Raiders was a major factor in the Buccaneers' win in Super Bowl XXXVII. The most damaging piece of evidence is NFL Films footage of Tampa Bay defensive back John Lynch telling his teammates during the game that almost all of the plays ran by Oakland's offense were plays that Gruden (who that week even played the part of "Rich Gannon" by playing QB with the scout-team offense) specifically told them to look out for.[15] Better still for the Buccaneers was that Oakland hadn't changed their audible-calling signals that Gruden himself had installed, thus tipping off plays repeatedly. As a result, Tampa Bay dominated Oakland, outgaining them in total yards (365 to 269), rushing yards (150 to 19), first downs (24 to 11), offensive plays (76 to 60), and forced turnovers (5 to 1).

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