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7.1 Million for a big who can guard Dwight and Bynum man up is a great deal.

Elton Brand made 17 million, Kaman 14 million, Okafor 12.5, Mehmet Okur 10.9, DeAndre Jordan 10, Camby 9.2, Bargnani 9, Biedrins 9, Varejao 7.7, Villanueva 7.5, Brendan Haywood 7.5, Tyrus Thomas 7, Dalembert 7, Kwame Brown 7, Andray Blatche 6.7

Silly argument

Perkins has no role at all against like 26 teams. They really need to move his contract if they want to be able to resign Harden and Ibaka.

Of those 15 overpaid bigs, 5 of them expire this offseason, and Haywood/Blatche are likely to be amnestied because their contracts are so terrible. Perk's contract has 3 more years, that's why it's so bad.

bahaha perk

Ok, I'll ask another way. Plz list the better bigs who are paid less, and aren't on their rookie contracts.

I'd grant maybe Gortat but he made 6.8 (a negligible difference) and was a RFA (which drastically limits your prospects on the market) as a back up and was matched by Orlando to remain a back up/trade asset.

OMG basically a Mid Level exception for a starting C on a championship level team, so overpaid

Market value, how does it work???

cousin sal referred to bob arum as a crook on the latest podcast..thats a lawsuit waiting to happen right?

Truth is a defense against libel

Not BS related, but Teddy Atlas went OFF on Bob Arum during an interview on local Atlanta radio. According to Teddy

-Arum fixed the fight because he owns both fighters
-Now Arum gets paid on the rematch too
-Arum keeps stopping the May/Pac fight because he doesn't want to co-promote as he'd have to open his books and people would see how much money he's stealing.

Sals so great "2 of the judges were 70 years old, the other one is a chick. whatever"

Hearing Jacko talk about the Mad Men finale is cringeworthy. "Let's call everything about the show amazing and try to look really cool"

listened to my first ever jalen rose podcast today. highly enjoyable. guy's charismatic. i hate jacoby but he didn't drag it down too much.

In the same vein, I've really enjoyed the Basketball Jones' podcast the few times I've listened. Seems like a group of pretty knowledgeable dudes with good chemistry.

TBJ have a show in Canada on The Score, which is kind of like a little brother to TSN (our ESPN, which is the same except for more hockey).

Yeah TBJ pod is pretty funny. I giggle every time when the Australian dude starts giving shoutouts to all the various twitter handles.

Listened to TBJ pod once, and only once. Bunch of annoying people talking over each other.

Sal & JackO pods are megaelite. Soccer pod is good too, as long as you can forgive the contant in-jokes.

With those qualifiers there are about 5 Cs eligible (Pekovic is one of them). Future UFAs who re-sign midseason should get more than market value so they don't test free agency, as opposed to your implication that Perkins took less money to stay in OKC (where he had never played).

OKC basically had to sign him because of how the cap and bird rights work, but I think Perkins is similar to Nene and Joe Johnson, where teams can't let them go for nothing, but then have to overpay them. You listed players who make more than him and are slightly worse, but some of those players are more valuable because they aren't on 4yr deals. Imagine Perkins's contract after next season, where he will be in decline (luckily he's one of the worst offensive Cs in the league already according to Hollinger so he won't fall too far there), and will still have 2yrs 18m left.

Boston decided to trade both Perkins and Davis, rather than extend them, because they thought they would be overpaying. OKC was basically out of options because they weren't going to have a good draft pick for the next decade, and needed a true C, so they essentially had to trade for Perkins and overpay him.

that's still not enough to own any real property in beacon hill, unless he had it a long time ago and he's locked in property tax wise (not sure mass laws here). Or maybe he just owns a condo which I guess would be doable with that.

So you're theorizing that guys never take less money to stay with a team/town they enjoy?

Nene and Joe Johnson signed their deals in the offseasons ... not during the season.

Ur right about Pekovic (don't know who ur other 4 are) but he wasn't a known commodity when he signed (hence them starting Darko for so long), it's similar to when Indy locked up Al Harrington back in the day before he'd really done much. I'm sure you have McGee in there but my point was to illustrate market value.

I would've thought that you guys had more faith in Presti by now

So you overpay a guy before FA so you don't have to sign him for less money when the market dictates a lower price?!?!?

Solid logic

The UFAs getting more during the season, and the Nene/JJ comparison are two separate things. Both Denver and ATL couldn't let them walk during the offseason because it was better to overpay them than to get nothing in return.

It'll be interesting to see how OKC gets rid of Perkins after next season (I'm assuming they won't want to go much over the luxury tax), because if Harden gets a max and some team offers Ibaka $10m/yr, OKC would have ~$55m between their 4 guys, along with $15m committed to Perkins/Thabo/Collison.

You overpay him before FA so he doesn't go to some other team leaving you with nothing, which is often the worst possible outcome as I've mentioned. Players wait years to become UFAs, most of the time they aren't going to pass on that for an offer they deem under market value.

'Girls!'

So you overpay him so he can't go to another team for less money during FA???

If they would get more as a FA on the open market ... well that's market value and the team would be getting him below it and the player wouldn't be 'overpaid'

Even just the voice-over of him saying "Twit-ah" in the lead-in to that section cracks my ass up every time. I liked the TBJ I was getting through Grantland so much, I started listening to their daily podcast/occasionally watching it live.