You guys are right, joke is not the right word. I think that after a certain point, say 10 or so, until 40ish, arguing over it is kind of a joke. Iirc the points totals get very similar at that point.

put south American teams playing other south American teams in friendly matches should weigh in more than japan going up against those ****ty Asian teams. half of the nations in south America would win the asians cup if they even only played their bench

kit's list needs more kyle walker

I don't have much of an impression of him. I seem to remember he got some good reviews for his performances for Villa but is he really potentially best fullback in the world level good? There are only a couple of fullbacks on the list as is. I'll keep an eye out for him next time I watch Villa.

i'd rather have him than rafael going forward

everyone thinks every Man Utd player is overrated though

lol, idk, it's not easy to work out how people are rating people, but the only other united players i'd say are overrated are some of the central midfield (mainly fletcher, anderson is changing my mind in the same way as nani did about 12 months ago, no ****ing clue if anyone still rates carrick but i don't). tend to agree with pretty much everywhere else about who's good and who's crap

I reckon out of Fletchers 53 caps for Scotland he's had about 5 good games

about japan, whoever said it they lost to paraguay on pens, not uruguay.

Nittery

Also, lol at basing ratings based purely who they play against, sort by opponent, become rankings expert lol...

Who cares who's capable? Its a ranking and as I said its based on actual results. Not theoretically who is the best teams. Thats for fans to argue about. Japan being where they are is also far from unrealistic in that regard as well. From 10-30 its pretty damn close between countries and they are certainly in there somewhere.

What do you mean they are a complete joke? What order would you have the countries in? How would you change the ranking system?

Of course the top Asian Cup teams could compete against Mexico or top nations benches. Thats just an ignorant statement I dunno what else to tell you.

Looking at the top of the list only Greece, Uruguay, Norway and Croatia stick out to me as being too high based on actual ability. I wouldn't have too many arguments other than nitty ones with the list.

Basically I think the fact you didn't even know Japan 'was actually not that bad' disqualifies you from having a valid opinion on the matter.

Everyone thinks our central midfield is utterly ****, which it isn't. Everyone thinks Carrick and Fletcher are wank, which they aren't. None of these are 'overrated' unless I am misunderstanding what the word means or you mean by very specific groups of people and not in general.

the match results are objective

the formula used to extrapolate the rankings from the match results, not so much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMSFkGYdooo

oh meeeiii geeeeeiii

Yes he meant that for sure.

I was hoping I would get to read a Vlugge post that isn't a USA troll. Boy, was that dumb.

Wth this kid is good

Would it kill him to pass the ball?

wow

but could he do it at Stoke on a wet February Tuesday night?

I would be pretty pissed if i got put on this kids team but wow, his two feet are unbelievable, the flick over the keeper i cant even do on fifa 11.

His little side step things are awesome.

[TallPaul]Michael Ricketts was better when he was 9 years old.[/TallPaul]

FYP

Way to strike down buzz where ever you see it, yet again.

That kid is obviously insanely skilled with the ball but holy **** teach him some passing and shooting please.