SETV >>>> OOTV: WOAT >>>> GOT - Page 228 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

1. The Wire
2. Breaking Bad
3. The Sopranos
4. Mad Men
5. Deadwood (overrated on 2p2. gets 5th because there is no other show worthy)

After the first two seasons of GoT, I was convinced it would end up being in the top 5. Two seasons later, I'm positive it won't be top 5.

Quote

07-17-2014 , 10:37 PM

#5677

Onlydo2days

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,483

Comedy

Curb
Seinfeld
Arrested Development
Office (early seasons
30 Rock

Drama
Wire
Sopranos (although Sopranos is more rewatchable than Wire I think)
Breaking Bad
Sons of Anarchy

haven't seen Deadwood, GoT or Mad Men yet

Quote

07-17-2014 , 10:52 PM

#5678

shane88888

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,984

The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and, to a lesser extent, Deadwood and Six Feet Under are works of art.

Everything else is just entertainment.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:12 AM

#5679

MonsterJMcgee

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,001

The Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad
Mad Men

None of the other shows have reached that class imo. GoT is massively overrated ITT. TD is elite, but only one season doesn't seem fair.

I think Boardwalk Empire went from way overrated to now underrated. There have been some elite moments in that show (but a lot of bad ones as well). Probably a top ~15 drama.

Curb is #1 for comedy AINEC

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:24 AM

#5680

MonsterJMcgee

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,001

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaft88

The leftovers is very interesting to me. It doesn't have a physical protagonist. No Don Draper, no Walter White, no Tony Soprano. The protagonist isn't even the event that happened two years before; it's the fallout that happens in the days, weeks, years, decades after the event.

I like it because it doesn't let you observe some fictional protagonist make his way through the world, but forces you to follow the main protagonist in anyone's life- the fact that at any moment anyone around you could be taken away, and you yourself could be next.

I like it because it isn't 'woo lets strap in for this ride' or 'lets dissect how this show is an allegory for a decade past' but 'what would you do in this situation? How would you handle this differently?' I think it asks questions that only the individual viewer can answer.

The Leftovers contains some pretty standard postmodern storytelling, and there is definitely nothing new or groundbreaking going on. You could easily make the same argument that there isn't a definitive protagonist in GoT, but that doesn't mean there's some higher, thought-provoking reason for it.

I'm only two episodes in, but The Leftovers doesn't seem compelling at all, and for the most part is just bad and uninteresting and sometimes depressing and bleak as ****.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:41 AM

#5681

Quinn Warren

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,622

I totally get not liking GOT. But the talk of it falling off is really confusing me. Season 4 was easily the best. So many scenes would have been strong season-enders for other shows, but GOT just kept throwing haymakers.

The royal wedding
Tyrion' s trial
Littlefinger's long con
Mountain v. Viper

And still so much character development. After every season, a series rewatch has been like watching a different show.

It's up there with The Wire for me.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:47 AM

#5682

TimmayB

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,086

It never gets talked about comedy wise cuz it fell off so much but peak The Office was really good stuff.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:48 AM

#5683

ludacris

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,277

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane88888

The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and, to a lesser extent, Deadwood and Six Feet Under are works of art.

Everything else is just entertainment.

As someone that is currently on their first watch through of SFU, it clearly seems a tier or 2 below the others.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 02:05 AM

#5684

Omar Comin

fantasy failure

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27,348

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinn Warren

GOT has the disadvantage of people expecting crazy **** to happen every single episode. So when you get a couple of episodes that are builders for the moment people start hating.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 02:25 AM

#5685

SirOsis

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 29,516

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omar Comin

GOT has the disadvantage of people expecting crazy **** to happen every single episode. So when you get a couple of episodes that are builders for the moment people start hating.

Yeah GOT can a have a letdown here and there but when it's good it's amazing. Like the Blackwater episode.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 05:19 AM

#5686

BobboFitos

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72,763

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimmayB

It never gets talked about comedy wise cuz it fell off so much but peak The Office was really good stuff.

Agree with this. When I see reruns in seasons 2/3/4, it's just on another tier.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 09:08 AM

#5687

clowntable

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,557

Quote:

Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

I got Seinfeld as my #1 comedy.

Off the top of my head top 5

Seinfeld
Curb (could be talked into Curb>Seinfeld but giving Seinfeld the nod because it was waaaay ahead of its time)
---
Shameless (US)
Always Sunny
AD (I'm lower on this than most)

Quote

07-18-2014 , 09:38 AM

#5688

Chilltown

SuperMegaElitePoster

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 40,234

Let's do animated shows only

I'm going

1) Simpsons
2) Batman: The Animated Series
3) don't care

Argue with 1-2 someone.

I dare you.

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU

Quote

07-18-2014 , 09:40 AM

#5689

kidcolin

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 109,033

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludacris

As someone that is currently on their first watch through of SFU, it clearly seems a tier or 2 below the others.

mad men went from "work of art" to self-parody sometime in s3 or 4 as well.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 09:48 AM

#5690

fanerio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 8,718

lol 1. rick and morty

Quote

07-18-2014 , 10:07 AM

#5691

Chilltown

SuperMegaElitePoster

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 40,234

Rick and Morty is too ugly to be in the top three.

Learn to draw yo, visuals matter in an animated show.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 10:46 AM

#5692

Francis_MH

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,386

Just got into a "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" binge recently due to Seinfeld being on the Daily Show. The Letterman episode is so, so good. Funny, insightful, with good stories. Had to rewind it several times.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 10:50 AM

#5693

dkgojackets

DKGOAT

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86,123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Let's do animated shows only

I'm going

1) Simpsons
2) Batman: The Animated Series
3) don't care

Argue with 1-2 someone.

I dare you.

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU

doug
recess
rocket power

Quote

07-18-2014 , 11:13 AM

#5694

Omar Comin

fantasy failure

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27,348

Rugrats bros, grown up Tommy Pickles probably slays so much poon.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 11:21 AM

#5695

El Rata

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 31,720

Life and times of Tim is one of the greats

Quote

07-18-2014 , 12:58 PM

#5696

clowntable

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,557

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Let's do animated shows only

I'm going

1) Simpsons
2) Batman: The Animated Series
3) don't care

Argue with 1-2 someone.

I dare you.

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU

Batman is #1 for "western style animated" AINEC especially if you take into account when it was made. Ironically it was animated by a Japanese studio iirc.

Rick&Morty very elite. Haven't watched Simpsons in forever but when I did it was pretty strong (also like Futurama and Family Guy for similar-ish shows). Never really enjoyed South Park as much as most people. Archer is pretty strong as well.

Beavis and Butt-head pretty underrated these days.

I wouldn't count Spawn (the one that used to be on HBO) since it's more like the Sherlock of animated shows but that's probably my all time favourite animated show.

Last edited by clowntable; 07-18-2014 at 01:04 PM.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:14 PM

#5697

Onlydo2days

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,483

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobboFitos

Agree with this. When I see reruns in seasons 2/3/4, it's just on another tier.

yeah early Office is great before the show just kinda ran out of stuff to do.

Everyone loves the British edition but it was 12 eps, a lot easier to put on good comedy for 12 eps than 150

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:31 PM

#5698

Yippee ki-yay

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,763

Only just getting round to watching the office now.
Which season does it start to go downhill?

Last edited by Yippee ki-yay; 07-18-2014 at 01:57 PM. Reason: My Grammar failed me.

Quote

07-18-2014 , 01:43 PM

#5699

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 68,339

middle seasons

think the big wedding was about the last hurrah, and probably should have been the series finale
still some laughs after that, but the show got pretty silly and bad, especially towards the end

edit: yeah ok, the wedding ep was early S6, but it was already getting kinda bad in S5
so eps 104/105 are a decent place to stop and pretend like the show ended there
(if you get that far)