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01-23-2016 , 12:32 PM
Bernie/Paul woulda been some great presidential debating

Instead we get the polar opposite, Trump/Hilary

it's basically gonna be this:
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01-23-2016 , 12:33 PM
"The endorsement praises Paul's plans to reduce taxes, close the borders and eliminate trade deals, such as NAFTA."

Clearly racist policies. Like, I don't get your point.
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01-23-2016 , 12:37 PM
Was Ron Paul "just doing what is right" when one of the only pieces of legislation he ever introduced was a transparently unconstitutional law called the We the People Act designed to prevent the Supreme Court from throwing out gay marriage bans?
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01-23-2016 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
"The endorsement praises Paul's plans to reduce taxes, close the borders and eliminate trade deals, such as NAFTA."

Clearly racist policies. Like, I don't get your point.
The also agree with regards to eliminating the Civil Rights Act!
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01-23-2016 , 01:00 PM
lol @ redoing the constitution

would be a hilarious disaster
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01-23-2016 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Was Ron Paul "just doing what is right" when one of the only pieces of legislation he ever introduced was a transparently unconstitutional law called the We the People Act designed to prevent the Supreme Court from throwing out gay marriage bans?
Every Republican candidate for president in 2012 supported 1 man 1 woman.
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01-23-2016 , 01:07 PM
Ludacris after some time to reflect on this you will come back wiser and not as enamored with RP. I've seen it happen to dozens of Paulites in Politics and elsewhere.
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01-23-2016 , 01:14 PM
I'm supporting Bernie Sanders this year. I wanted to caucus in 2012 and had to pick one of the Republicans. Do you remember what that field looked like?
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01-23-2016 , 01:16 PM
dude you are openly defending ron paul right now
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01-23-2016 , 01:16 PM
Michael Bloomberg may enter the race as an independent and spend up to $1B of his own cash on the campaign.
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01-23-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Every Republican candidate for president in 2012 supported 1 man 1 woman.
Kool? Every Republican except for Ron Paul supported perpetuating the Civil Rights Act. Why was Ron Paul hamstrung by the GOP platform when it comes to sticking it to the gays, but when it comes to sticking it to racial minorities, he's AOK with going rogue?
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01-23-2016 , 01:17 PM
Lol at citing the splc on anything. They're a racket that makes their money by convincing rich elderly Jews to donate to avoid the next Shoah that's always right around the corner
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01-23-2016 , 01:21 PM
Wookie, as much as I enjoy your misery, this is all superfluous.

The new line is opposing reparations is sufficient proof of white supremacy. Coates told me so.

It certainly would have been in the newsletter (if liberals had any evil capatalistic business sense).
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01-23-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by digables
lol @ redoing the constitution

would be a hilarious disaster
You think people 300 years ago are smarter than people now?
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01-23-2016 , 01:23 PM
The reparations nonsense pushed by coates is hilarious. It's even funnier to watch the politics forum try to defend it.
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01-23-2016 , 01:25 PM
Please let it be Sanders vs Trump vs Bloomberg for entertainment purposes, please....

Bloomberg could realistically take 20% moderates from both sides and win that.
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01-23-2016 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Please let it be Sanders vs Trump vs Bloomberg for entertainment purposes, please....

Bloomberg could realistically take 20% moderates from both sides and win that.
ehhhhh more likely he doesn't get to 270, and the house elects the president.
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01-23-2016 , 01:28 PM
yeah that would be hilarious too
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01-23-2016 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Please let it be Sanders vs Trump vs Bloomberg for entertainment purposes, please....

Bloomberg could realistically take 20% moderates from both sides and win that.
I don't think you've ever seen Bloomberg speak.

20% of America is never voting for a swishy New Yorker authoritarian for President.
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01-23-2016 , 01:34 PM
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You think people 300 years ago are smarter than people now?
Your LOL boomers card is revoked.
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01-23-2016 , 01:44 PM
Boomers>Slave owners
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01-23-2016 , 01:45 PM
Oh man those bolded quotes, damn what a crazy racist! Also loved your absurd claim of him making millions off a grifting empire. No wonder he's so rich!

The amount of hate libertarians like Paul, Mises Institute, Austrian economics, etc. get especially over the racism accusations has been ridiculous. Ron Paul has one of the most impressive voting records in US history, and even if you believe in your heart of hearts that he's some evil white supremacist his voting record does not reflect that at all. I think most of the character attacks have a lot to do with the inability of people that are so pro government involvement to argue against things based in principles and logic. At least in liberal vs republicans discussions the necessity of government involvement is typically already assumed so it's really easy to properly criticize the hypocrisy and absurdity of republicans. Austrian stuff is really hard to argue against


Another thing re: the constant attempts of character defamation(on both sides) by the media and all the people who slurp it, people care way too much about appearance of character opposed to actual character and principles. They care more about what is said than what is actually done. A politician's best qualities should be their principles and willingness to do what they say. Someone who you know what you're going to get and their voting records reflect that. For example Paul may be considered by some to have "extreme" views on abortion, but nothing in his voting record reflects his personal view on the act. He's been firmly in the "Prohibition never works, and it's not something the government should be involved in, and public dissension is another very important reason it should not be supported by the state" which is very predictable considering his core principles.

These are the best parts about guys Bernie and Paul regardless of your opinion of their views, and what's needed most in politics. They have principles they believe in and will stand for.
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01-23-2016 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
I don't think you've ever seen Bloomberg speak.

20% of America is never voting for a swishy New Yorker authoritarian for President.
If it is Sanders on 1 side and Trump on another?

Those two have such limited appeal to moderates in their parties, I definitely think he could swoop in and do some damage.

It would be awesome theater at the least.
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01-23-2016 , 01:58 PM
I don't even know which side Bloomberg would poach more voters from. Feels like it could be a legit 3 party race. NY would be kinda funny in that situation if Hillary and Trump are the two nominations.
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01-23-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Oh man those bolded quotes, damn what a crazy racist! Also loved your absurd claim of him making millions off a grifting empire. No wonder he's so rich!

The amount of hate libertarians like Paul, Mises Institute, Austrian economics, etc. get especially over the racism accusations has been ridiculous. Ron Paul has one of the most impressive voting records in US history, and even if you believe in your heart of hearts that he's some evil white supremacist his voting record does not reflect that at all. I think most of the character attacks have a lot to do with the inability of people that are so pro government involvement to argue against things based in principles and logic. At least in liberal vs republicans discussions the necessity of government involvement is typically already assumed so it's really easy to properly criticize the hypocrisy and absurdity of republicans. Austrian stuff is really hard to argue against


Another thing re: the constant attempts of character defamation(on both sides) by the media and all the people who slurp it, people care way too much about appearance of character opposed to actual character and principles. They care more about what is said than what is actually done. A politician's best qualities should be their principles and willingness to do what they say. Someone who you know what you're going to get and their voting records reflect that. For example Paul may be considered by some to have "extreme" views on abortion, but nothing in his voting record reflects his personal view on the act. He's been firmly in the "Prohibition never works, and it's not something the government should be involved in, and public dissension is another very important reason it should not be supported by the state" which is very predictable considering his core principles.

These are the best parts about guys Bernie and Paul regardless of your opinion of their views, and what's needed most in politics. They have principles they believe in and will stand for.
Yeah I mean look at all the good Jared Fogle did helping people get skinny. But diddle one kid...

When you sit down to write posts like these, do you just imagine what you want the world to be like, and then state it as fact?

The dude made tons of money of racist newsletters he either wrote or approved and even defended later. He's had close ties with white supremacists for decades and spoken at rallies sponsored by white supremacists. He spoke out vociferously AGAINST the SCOTUS ruling Lawrence v. Texas - which declared Texas couldn't put two men in jail for having consensual sex in their own bedroom.

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Originally Posted by Ron Paul
There are, however, states’ rights — rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards.
Individual liberty and right to privacy are sacred to libertarians. Except the gay sex. Best leave that one up to the states.

How utterly unshocking that you are a Paulite and a Trumpite - even thought the two political philosophies couldn't be more diametrically opposed. It's all about cult of personality and magical thinking wishcasting with you. And of course you're completely un-self-aware of the spell they have on you.

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