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Trump is a master marketer

He accurately places the value of his brand as half of his overall net worth (even if he grossly overestimates both)

He is all talk and marketing and no substance

Lol at falling for it

I agree with this and think it is likely may not even be cash flow positive for long periods of time.

He says 10B I wouldn't be shocked if it was really 2B.

His brand was pretty decent, but it will probably be really good after this is over

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03-07-2016 , 10:57 PM

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TRUMP now employing his own plainclothes security force, secret police if you will, to find protesters or potential protesters and root them out before they can interrupt his speech.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz42HAEzsrO

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03-07-2016 , 11:04 PM

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Pwn_Master

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Well, it's his right, private property after all...... but of course they also allow anyone who is yelling horrible, vile racist things to remain cuz this is Murica and we cherish freedom of speech!

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03-07-2016 , 11:06 PM

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I love how Larry the Trump supporter goes 'schu voted for hillary therefore all of his opinions are really really dumb'

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03-07-2016 , 11:15 PM

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Trump is playing to win. Hillary plays not to lose. This seems super obvious to me.

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03-07-2016 , 11:15 PM

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Larry Legend

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Would be silly for Hillary to do anything but that at this point.

She is basically being given an opportunity to coast.

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03-07-2016 , 11:18 PM

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Disagree. But I understand why her advisors feel that way.

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03-07-2016 , 11:22 PM

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She should be running up the score on Bernie, being front and center as the clear and sane alternative who may be unlikeable but is principled and clear and strong.

Instead she uses the DNC to bury the debates. Stays off the media and interview circuit, and has ceded the stage, press and ratings to the Republicans. She will have no momentum and will be starting in a hole with the Republicans having defined her for months since they talk about her more than anyone sees the actual her.

Maybe anti-crazy votes and superior ground game get it done. But she's doing herself no favors IMO.

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03-07-2016 , 11:22 PM

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schu_22

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The only other option I could fathom getting behind is Kasich.

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03-07-2016 , 11:22 PM

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Larry Legend

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I could definitely understand arguments to the contrary, but I think genuinely her record is bad, she is under multiple investigations, she has a lifetime of corruption and scandals under her belt, etc.

This way she can sit back and fire out talking points from time to time.

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03-07-2016 , 11:23 PM

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And I agree with Clark and have believed for months now that the Dems are ****ing themselves with their hidden debate scheduling

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03-07-2016 , 11:24 PM

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I don't think she needs to be taking the fifth on her record. She needs to attack and be smug smarter-than-you Hillary who was super impressive and totally dominated the Benghazi hearings.

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03-07-2016 , 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

it seems like completely wishful thinking to think that there is any scenario ever where the republicans wouldn't be getting 90% of the press and media attention in this election cycle

anyway she is going to win barring an indictment or some sort of unforgivable gaffe so whatever

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03-07-2016 , 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

She should be running up the score on Bernie, being front and center as the clear and sane alternative who may be unlikeable but is principled and clear and strong.

Instead she uses the DNC to bury the debates. Stays off the media and interview circuit, and has ceded the stage, press and ratings to the Republicans. She will have no momentum and will be starting in a hole with the Republicans having defined her for months since they talk about her more than anyone sees the actual her.

Maybe anti-crazy votes and superior ground game get it done. But she's doing herself no favors IMO.

hard to do that without actually tarnishing the Democratic party itself; she's treading lightly, ergo smart. She has to beat BErnie with integrity, because "integrity" is all Bernie stands for.

She's 2 levels ahead of you bro. But she's supposed to be, so don't take it offensively.

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03-07-2016 , 11:29 PM

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I think the issue is that Bernie has been very kind to Hillary through this primary process. A lot of that velocity is driven through conflict and Bernie has been very civil.

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03-07-2016 , 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

I don't think she needs to be taking the fifth on her record. She needs to attack and be smug smarter-than-you Hillary who was super impressive and totally dominated the Benghazi hearings.

Attack Bernie? That would be super dumb. His supporters are devoted and are prone to take attacks personally. She wants their support in the fall.

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03-07-2016 , 11:34 PM

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Nah she should be running for President right now. Instead she's making up positions to appear better to would-be Bernie voters. It's just bad strategy. Bernie isn't even a Democrat.

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03-07-2016 , 11:34 PM

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Not personally attack him.

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03-07-2016 , 11:38 PM

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Nah she should be running for President right now. Instead she's making up positions to appear better to would-be Bernie voters. It's just bad strategy. Bernie isn't even a Democrat.

She seems to be slowly pivoting to GE mode. I think she is doing the smart thing now. Starting to build a positive message and bring the party together.

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03-07-2016 , 11:38 PM

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Hillary will be fine. There is zero hiding in the general and the differences will be very obvious. Bernie is 100% going to play nice after the nomination is sewed up.

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03-07-2016 , 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Legend

rofl worried bout corruption and scandals? Vote trump!

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03-07-2016 , 11:46 PM

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his penis is huge

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03-07-2016 , 11:46 PM

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hillary doesn't even have a penis. probably. chessmate.

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03-07-2016 , 11:51 PM

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Kasich getting Arnold via Snapchat is a boss move.

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03-08-2016 , 12:49 AM

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Yeah disagree with Clark. Bernies supporters will support her by and large. Then if she faces Trump she just needs to let him do him, stand firm, and she will coast. Versus any other candidate just play it straight up.

Either way demographics are so in her favor.

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