criminalizing poverty has been a republican priority since at least reagan. it might be the heart of their ideology.

burn down all the institutions, burn down government, defund everything, build nothing. they want to turn a genuinely great world power into a 3rd world country. a bunch of no-nothings/greedy sociopaths/racists.

The NYT is absolutely right. Dems blocked to his agreement. They need 60 votes. Even if every single R voted for it they needed Dem support which wasn't there

Dems should own this.

Hurrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrr

Every single R could have voted yes and it still wouldn't have passed. Of course the Dems blocked it, there is no other conclusion to make.

They blocked it bc they didn't like the terms. They can defend that.

Arguing that they didn't block it is lololol foolish

Kind of an awful leap in logic considering a number of things but I’ll start with the easiest: there was a bipartisan agreement in place and art of the deal squashed it

So ya, no

So you're saying they didn't like the bill as it was voted on so they decided not to agree to it. Got it.

I mean, the truth is in the middle this time. The Republicans refused to allow the bipartisan bill to come to the floor because they didn’t want to force Trump into a veto and subsequently the Dems blocked the new, Republican bill from coming to the floor. They could’ve let it be voted on but it would’ve been quite risky.

Right, you can argue about who is more at fault for this. But arguing the NYT is wrong for saying "Dems blocked passage of stopgap spending bill" when that is quite literally what happened is the wrong fight to pick.

Dems blocked passage of the bill bc they didn't like it. Period.

Were they justified in doing so? That is what you can argue about.

Sidenote I think it would be amusing to lock this thread for as long as gubment is shut down

‘Republicans fail to produce bipartisan spending bill’ is as laughable a blame assigning headline and also technically correct

NYT is just doing what lolCableNews does: shamelessly omitting relevant details to craft a facile one-sided narrative.

It’s like this: 8 GOP congressman caught in pedo ring. Democratic Senator has gay extra marital affair. Fox reports only the affair as part of an expose on Democratic malfeasance and you’re like THE AFFAIR HAPPENED. YOU CANT DENY IT. OWN IT.

Lol at you centrist morons

Waaf bc of YOU

Don't ever forget that

You are worse than evangelical sister ****ers in Alabama

Hillary gonna start getting things done any day now

Slap yourself in the face for me

Like my man Chuck D says...SHUT IT DOWN!

That said instead of arguing which media outlet is spinning the narrative at the end of the day what really happened here:

- Three Ds including Doug Jones voted Yes to pass the bill (wait a minute I though he was on the side of the good guys)...So re: NYT did ALL of the Ds really try to stop the bill or just most of them

- Jeff Flake voted No but lets be fair here...Jeff Flake is still a POS. For all the grandstanding about 45 and his disgraceful attack on the 1st Amendment comparing him to Stalin last week remember: He still voted for the Tax Bill he voted for the health care bill to repeal Obamacare, voted no to give 24 Billion for disaster relief for victims of all of the Hurricanes this past year (a bill that passed 82-17 btw), was a yes to ALL of 45s noms for his cabinet, and is a lame duck in 18 along with other things he voted on that you can click on below. So Jeff, if you hate him so much WHY YOU ALWAYS VOTING WITH HIM...cept this one time of course. Like I said world class POS.

- Also Lindsey Graham, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul voted no to keep the store open. Maybe they wanted a bigger wall, maybe they wanted more penalties for poors being poor, maybe they just don't gaf, but either way they still crossed the party line...f them all to hell still...especially Rand Paul **** that guy.

So what was the narrative again from 45 saying it's the Dems fault...again.

Ugh.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/20/politi...wn/index.html]

https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-...e#.WmNtKq6nGUm

Nice of you to stumble upon the real headline.

People saying the democrats blocked this from passing, do you agree that the republicans blocked every democratic bill to stop the shutdown? Do you also believe the republicans have continually blocked thousands of other possible bills by refusing to adjust their ideology to match the democrats? I mean if republicans would just fall in line with the Democrats then we could pass a ton of unanimous bills and even easily pass sweeping reform on things like healthcare.

Lol

We have reached peak bot

Finger pointing about who is more to blame for this is supremely pointless. All that matters is what's in the eventual deal.

Sounds to me like Schumer and Trump were close to working out something the Dems would back, but then the senate Republicans got involved.

You seem pretty upset. Were you planning on visiting the Washington Monument this weekend or something? Sorry your plans for scuttled.

This will all be sorted out soon , etc etc. But mb instead of getting mad at the NYT for reporting exactly what happened you should go knock on some doors or something. Or go marching.

Rs blocked the bill by serving up a pile of **** that 4 members of their own party rejected. Or if you want to insist on being hyperliteral and pedantic, failing to use the exact same method that they used to steal a Supreme Court seat with 52 votes. The Ds literally do not have the means to stop the bill if Rs are determined. Your posting is horribad and you should feel horribad.

This is all true but still omits how God awful the house Republican provisions were. They were mean, cruel and out of place in any western nation in the 21st century

I'm confused. You must have missed what happened last night. You do know that vote needed 60 right?

Could the R change the rules? Yes. But until that happens you're better off just with the truth. The Dems blocked the bill bc it sucked. I'm not sure why people have a problem with this.

Show me where in the Constitution it says 60 votes are required to fund the government. The government is shutdown because the Rs want it shutdown. Rs insist that they need 60 votes, which is false, but refuse to negotiate for those 60 votes. Its nonsensical. But you be you, useful idiot gonna useful idiot.

Trump isn't gonna support a single thing that Tom Cotton wouldn't so they were never close. In Trump's world deals are negotiated then he does what he wants anyway and then figures out how someone other than him gets screwed.