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It is hard. Fundraising is very hard. Forming a 501(c)(3) with a 1023-EZ is easy. Forming a good board of directors is hard.

And on and on.

The good news: there are people with very similar ideas all over the country, and we're slowly networking effectively.

Cannot keep up with the speed of his decisions, is frustrating. I should've been organizing this a year ago.

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01-31-2017 , 11:31 AM

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Uh, huh. What did you think of Holocaust Remembrance Day without mentioning Jews? Not enough to make you "cave"?

Do you really think Trump hates Jewish people now?

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01-31-2017 , 11:31 AM

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ClarkNasty

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

no. He'll have to wait until 2024 when the term limit has been abolished.

Gotta give it to you. You have been on fire and have had some epic sarcastic and well crafted posts lately. Poster of the week.

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Can someone please ban VMF?

Let's not go down this path please.

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01-31-2017 , 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

Do you really think Trump hates Jewish people now?

Answer my question first.

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01-31-2017 , 11:35 AM

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It's discouraging to watch him make damaging decisions at a rapid pace, and to simply not be in a position to oppose them or meaningfully obstruct them through the legal process or through interaction with the people whom he believes he is serving. It does us no good to think back and wish that we had been smarter earlier and even more prescient sooner, but it is tempting in my worst moments to throw up my hands and say by the time this is up and running it will not only be too late, but I will probably go to prison. We have to do it anyway.

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01-31-2017 , 11:38 AM

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Namath12

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I hear polonium-210 can be quite tasty on bruschetta

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01-31-2017 , 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Holliday

Answer my question first.

Well I work with 3 people who are Jewish that are from Israel and they love Trump. He's been one of the biggest donors to Israel and helping to build shelters for Jewish people who were fleeing. He has spent time with Bob Kraft at his synagogue. Not to mention his daughter, son in law and grandkids are Jewish.

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01-31-2017 , 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

It's discouraging to watch him make damaging decisions at a rapid pace, and to simply not be in a position to oppose them or meaningfully obstruct them through the legal process or through interaction with the people whom he believes he is serving. It does us no good to think back and wish that we had been smarter earlier and even more prescient sooner, but it is tempting in my worst moments to throw up my hands and say by the time this is up and running it will not only be too late, but I will probably go to prison. We have to do it anyway.

Who's Mr. Grumpy Gills?

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01-31-2017 , 11:40 AM

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Uh huh. Still not answering my question though.

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01-31-2017 , 11:42 AM

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Nothing short of the complete destruction of the Republican Party as currently constructed will fix this at this point. We cannot survive with a political party supported by nearly half of the voters wanting to tear the entire system down and actively harm a majority of their citizens.

yup, the republican party is just completely deplorable and irredeemable.

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Originally Posted by niss

This really all will fall on the "moderate" republicans in the senate to realize that things are really dangerously bad and they need to step in, break from the inane lockstep support being given to Le Grand Orange by sycophants and hypocrites like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio, and put an end to the nonsense.

these republicans dont exist. the whole party loves this. they have been dying for a chance to institute these sickening policies for a long time.

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01-31-2017 , 11:45 AM

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Victor

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i think trump's immigration EO is beyond terrible and a complete disaster, but what sally yates did is entirely inappropriate. the us government is her client. the honorable thing for her to do, if she thought she could no longer represent her client in good faith, is resign. people do this in government all the time.

lol karak. republicans ghana publican. there is not a single one that has any principle other than screwing over those that are different.

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01-31-2017 , 11:46 AM

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Uh huh. Still not answering my question though.

What do you think he should of said? I thought the statement was fine.

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01-31-2017 , 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Holliday

Uh, huh. What did you think of Holocaust Remembrance Day without mentioning Jews? Not enough to make you "cave"?

someone asked me that in another thread actually

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Seems fine to me, its a step away from identity politics. I dont see how its holocaust denial to recognize a lot of people suffered because of hitler

“In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can’t build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery, and death. I see the world gradually being turned into a wilderness, I hear the ever approaching thunder, which will destroy us too, I can feel the sufferings of millions and yet, if I look up into the heavens, I think that it will all come right, that this cruelty too will end, and that peace and tranquility will return again.”

― Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl

Kaine said it was a form of holocaust denial. I do not see that at all.

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01-31-2017 , 11:56 AM

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Victor

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

You guys are missing the central point - if she won't do what the President tells her to do, she will be fired. That is the structure of the position. She was getting fired upon Sessions's appointment. Thus, this was inevitable. She accelerated it by taking a position adversarial to the current government.

AGs FREQUENTLY refuse to enforce laws embraced by prior administrations, because that is what the current administration wants. AGs sometimes refuse to enforce laws embraced by the sitting President who appointed them, but that is before Presidents who respect things like (1) the Constitution and (2) the rule of law, and who value the counsel of their appointed AG.

That is not this. While I don't agree that she was ethically MANDATED to defend the EO, I don't think that even matters because her marching orders are to pursue the policy the President wants pursued. As a practicality, she had no option if she desired to stay in the job.

I like her letter, but my agreement with Karak is that there is nothing procedurally wrong with Trump firing her. That's what "at the pleasure of the President" means.

but thats not all that karak said. he is trying to argue that she was obligated to uphold the presidents bs and unconstitutional policies and that it was inappropriate to stand by the constitution.

hes obv wrong.

but he thinks that way bc hes just another brainwashed republican that hates brown ppl and liberals and cant wait to turn the country into a conservative hellhole.

thats who these ppl are. they may seem reasonable on the surface, like karak did, but deep down, this what they desire.

and its why if we want a society that is free, verdant, advanced, profitable, and equitable, these ppl need to be silenced by any means necessary.

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01-31-2017 , 11:59 AM

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if we want a society that is free, verdant, advanced, profitable, and equitable, these ppl need to be silenced by any means necessary.

Is that your final solution?

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01-31-2017 , 12:04 PM

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Victor, that was over the line. Gonna ask you again to please moderate some of your posting.

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01-31-2017 , 12:05 PM

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Eddy how many times are you going to pivot without a victory before you concede the guy you wanted was the wrong choice? Seemingly every day you argue, lose, argue something else, lose, and yet your conclusion remains unchanged

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01-31-2017 , 12:06 PM

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Hoya,

Can you elaborate on the objectives and methods for your nonprofit and if we can help somehow should we desire.

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01-31-2017 , 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

Eddy is clearly either trolling in which case his posts don't matter or has it so deeply ingrained in him that liberals are bad that its simply going to take a lot of time for him to see how bad things are and understand that this is what many people who opposed Trump were scared of.

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01-31-2017 , 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

good stuff man

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01-31-2017 , 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

someone asked me that in another thread actually

Kaine said it was a form of holocaust denial. I do not see that at all.

It was intentionally omitting the single most important fact about the day the event it was referencing. The follow-up statement confirmed the intent.

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01-31-2017 , 12:10 PM

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Victor

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Originally Posted by NoGambolNoFuture

yea fair, he is incompetent I agree and wasn't qualified to be president. But I assumed somebody in his administration would be keeping him in check, not encouraging him with all this nonsense.

this is bc you werent paying attention to who he was surrounding himself with. this was easy to see coming if you knew anything about bannon, and miller, or had ever heard giuliani talk lately.

and your observations and conclusions about hilary are obv total lol. you got that from listening to right wing propaganda obv.

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01-31-2017 , 12:12 PM

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VarianceMinefield

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

It was intentionally omitting the single most important fact about the day the event it was referencing. The follow-up statement confirmed the intent.

Ya, I don't know, as a jew, i see no problem with it. the holocaust was a terrible moment in history for humanity. i assume ivanka and her family didnt see any issue with it either. no one in my family has mentioned anything about it

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01-31-2017 , 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

I'm dying to know what all the conservative Jewish voters who supported Trump (this is a sizable segment of people, a lot of Jewish people hated Obama's policies wrt Israel and Trump has been outspoken in the opposite direction) thought of the Holocaust statement.