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11-07-2016 , 12:09 PM
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11-07-2016 , 12:26 PM
TBF once the media hate spigots from either side turn away, the candidate starts rising in popularity.
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11-07-2016 , 01:33 PM
Just a reminder that tomorrow we vote on whether you'll ever see an unwrapped dick in porn again

California!
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11-07-2016 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Just a reminder that tomorrow we vote on whether you'll ever see an unwrapped dick in porn again

California!
Seems like the solution to this would be to use condoms with pictures of naked ladies on them. That may it just makes everything more titillating.
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11-07-2016 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Just a reminder that tomorrow we vote on whether you'll ever see an unwrapped dick in porn again

California!
They'll just move to Arizona and Nevada.
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11-07-2016 , 05:22 PM
It astounds me these rubes think the guy holding his election night HQ in ****ing manhattan thinks Drumpf gives a **** about the little guy
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11-07-2016 , 05:24 PM
Also in the final lol_garyjohnson before that assclown falls into irrelevance, weld (edit: basically) endorsed clinton

Last edited by StoppedRainingMen; 11-07-2016 at 05:38 PM.
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11-07-2016 , 05:25 PM
He failed to get the coveted Malmuth endorsement too, all around tough cycle for that guy
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11-07-2016 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
It astounds me these rubes think the guy holding his election night HQ in ****ing manhattan thinks Drumpf gives a **** about the little guy
Aren't they both in Manhattan? Also there are little people living there, too.
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11-07-2016 , 06:23 PM
The rubes don't think Killary is for them though
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11-07-2016 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Also in the final lol_garyjohnson before that assclown falls into irrelevance, weld (edit: basically) endorsed clinton
on my Facebook feed there was a lot of movement from johnson to trump after weld went down this path

Johnson stans so lol
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11-07-2016 , 06:47 PM
Ooo, oooo--it'd be great if she had a painkiller habit because then we could call her "Pillary"!
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11-07-2016 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Ooo, oooo--it'd be great if she had a painkiller habit because then we could call her "Pillary"!
Or an addiction to pickles so we could call her "Dillary"!

Or if she were actually a fish and we could call her "Gillary"!

(thank you, thank you, EddyB will be opening for me at Larry's Laugh House on Thursday)
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11-07-2016 , 07:04 PM
If she was an alcoholic we could call her Distillery
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11-07-2016 , 07:06 PM
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If she was an alcoholic we could call her Distillery
i might have to open a craft distillery and call it Hill-stillery
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11-07-2016 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Ignoring everyone who argues in bad faith is gonna be a pretty lonely existence.
not really, i find this thread much more readable without regularly having to see what your write

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No one argues in good faith, at least not about anything that matters. Its not human nature. No one argues for the purposes of finding truth or what is correct or right.
that you believe this is more a statement on the tragedy of your existence than anything

(not that your mere existence is a tragedy. but it is a tragedy you either have never met someone who genuinely wants to find truth or what is correct or right, or simply cannot conceive that such a thing is possible.)

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VMF is a troll, right?
I mean, if "troll" is "someone unburdened by notions of truth or reality or facts," then I'd say yes

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its bc people want to be part of an actual conversation rather than some stupid debating society-esque game
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yes real people are full of contradictions. thats not the point

lets say i want to talk about the pro-life vs pro-choice thing. im pro-choice and i want to discuss the issue with someone on the other side. you jump in and say yo im pro-life lets do it

lets assume you're not actually a pro-lifer, but that you know the argument inside out and can accurately portray one. thats not good enough. i might want to know how you arrived at your pro-life position, whether you've ever questioned it, what made you question it, how you evaluate the arguments against your position and so on.

you cant do any of that because you're not the genuine article. i dont care to hear a fiction regarding about how the character you are playing came to his pro-life position. it might be plausible and it might be logically consistent but its not real and im not interested

this is why people were so pissed off with dblj when he was outed as a fake
you are the wind beneath my wings
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11-07-2016 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
i might have to open a craft distillery and call it Hill-stillery
c'mon man, clear play is "DistHillary."
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11-07-2016 , 07:52 PM
Glenn Beck, ladies and gentlemen

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...es-out-decency

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Decency is a fresh palette for Beck, who, at Fox, used to scribble on a chalkboard while launching into conspiratorial rants about looming Weimar-esque hyperinflation, Barack Obama’s ties to radicals with population-cleansing schemes, and a Marxist-Islamist cabal itching to take over America. He once described Clinton as “a stereotypical bitch” and accused Obama of being a racist with a “deep-seated hatred for white people.”

That was the old Beck, he insists: “I did a lot of freaking out about Barack Obama.” But, he said, “Obama made me a better man.” He regrets calling the President a racist and counts himself a Black Lives Matter supporter. “There are things unique to the African-American experience that I cannot relate to,” he said. “I had to listen to them.”

Beck’s interactions with Donald Trump helped, too. He told a story of Trump summoning him to a guest room at Mar-a-Lago; Trump then telephoned him from an adjacent room. “We had this weird, almost Howard Hughes-like conversation,” Beck said. He left convinced that Trump was nuts. “This guy is dangerously unhinged,” he said. “And, for all the things people have said about me over the years, I should be able to spot Dangerously Unhinged.”
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11-07-2016 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
c'mon man, clear play is "DistHillary."
want to be my partner?
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11-07-2016 , 07:55 PM
You bet. I even come with proven experience as an alcoholic a person who gets paid to write about liquor and know what he's talking about.
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11-07-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Or an addiction to pickles so we could call her "Dillary"!

Or if she were actually a fish and we could call her "Gillary"!

(thank you, thank you, EddyB will be opening for me at Larry's Laugh House on Thursday)
Nice, so you've got top billary
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11-07-2016 , 07:57 PM


yeah i wonder why
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11-07-2016 , 08:03 PM
One day to go. Thank goodness. Here's my platform. For those who don't like it, I'd worry since I no longer worry about surviving the vetting process lol.


First, some basics that have come up this cycle:

America is pretty ****ing awesome right now, this second.

No one is getting free 4-year University or their loans forgiven.

The Second Amendment isn't going away and as president I lack that power anyways.

Roe v Wade isn't getting overturned.

Ok. Now real stuff.

I am going to appoint justices with track records of doing their job and not getting overturned due to being activist, they must have high, broad approval from the relevant entities (Obama's current nominee fits this criteria of you want a specific example).

We need free trade but those who want to trade with us need some form of labor and environmental standards. Trade is good both economically and diplomatically.

We don't have an immigration crisis, especially with Mexico, where we have had a net export of Mexicans over the last 5-years. We do need tactical relaxation of requirements for educated workers, to address the situation of those who have lived here and contributed positively, and laws we can enforce going forward.

We need government out of people's private lives and enforcement of equitable treatment of people across as many subgroups as you can think of.

We need to better spend the tax money we have and the both social programs and military spending can go down with minimal impact on services if more efficiently spent.

That said we damn sure spend too much on the military (3x pre-9/11) and a bunch of that increase should be reallocated to infrastructure. What is happening in Flint, MI, is the stuff of a poverty stricken country, immoral and embarrassing. Our pipes are old. Many other larger and richer cities are now reporting problems. Our roads and bridges are decaying also.

The NSA must be reigned in and certain PATRIOT Act provisions must go away.

Health care is a mess, we spend too much money and there are no easy solutions. I don't know the answer and anyone who says they do is full of ****. Somehow people need to be covered. We spend enough today to make that real.

The above notwithstanding, the wealth gap is real, dramatic, growing and persistent. Until that changes we DO need increased EFFECTIVE taxes on the top, especially the truly wealthy. The long term goal is to reduce these rates but we have a debt and a deficit and while mean income is flat the top 0.1% continue to excel, in large part subsidized by the masses in the form of things like quantitative easing and effectively free money access. It's not right.

Global warming is a real thing and mankind contributes to it in some measure. We need reasonable laws that do not crush businesses while still making strides. Much of the issue is outside of the US and we need to lead and get continued concessions from other countries.

We need independent prosecutors for capital police crimes. Body cameras that cannot be turned off, and transparency. Better training funding for deescalation. All people want is accountability.

The war on drugs must end. Let's start with Marijuana and see how it goes. In general we need less criminalization of things that do not directly harm others.

Y'all know transsexuals have been using different toilets for years right?

I don't know what's broken about common core but let's fix it. No, Deep South, you don't just get to teach anything you want.

Somehow, we desperately need to decouple property taxes and education funding. It's not equitable and it perpetrated generational poverty issues.

Speaking of which. Since none of us LIKE abortion, we need better sex ed and access to prophylactics. The data is overwhelming that the less sex is stigmatized the lower birth and abortion rates.

Refugees take 2+ years to even get here, after living in squalor, and they don't get to choose us either (it is random). They commit crimes at a rate far lower than the general populace. Our process has led the world in effectiveness. Stop panicking.

ISIS will go away. We need to work with Russia and others. It's already the beginning of the end. We can stop the next terrorist rise by ceasing bombing the **** out of people and killing civilians regularly.

The Iran deal is fine. In life sometimes you take a pragmatic solution.

The Middle East is a mess and everyone. Israel and us included, does super heinous ****. Let's work to do less.

Speaking of Russia, we will be ok. Same with China. We can both be strong and less interventionalist. Russia is economically weak and China is too tied to us in trade.

As president I can't make it happen directly but 8-year House and 12-year Senate limits should be implemented. All elections publicly funded.

Hey States with public pension issues. Fix them before you go broke. Let's work on that.

We should work collectively to change our presidential election process. How? Keep the electoral college but allocate each State's electors proportionately to its popular vote. It is dumb that Florida picks our president.

The USA's core engine and advantage is our diversity. Of race, background, ideology, religion, philosophy, etc. let's celebrate it. After all, all any of us want is for us and our loved ones to be safe and have economic opportunity. That's the common human thread. We can figure this stuff out of we are coming from the same place, and we are.

Vote Clarknasty!
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11-07-2016 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
not really, i find this thread much more readable without regularly having to see what your write


that you believe this is more a statement on the tragedy of your existence than anything

(not that your mere existence is a tragedy. but it is a tragedy you either have never met someone who genuinely wants to find truth or what is correct or right, or simply cannot conceive that such a thing is possible.)
Sure, maybe I've had an amazing one-off existence, or maybe you are deluded and easily tricked into believing that there exist people who are on a selfless quest for universal truth. Its definitely one of those two though!

You realize I'm not like making this **** up or basing it off my personal anecdotes right? There are many things that I can conceive of as being possible, but that is not the standard for believing in them that I choose to apply.
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11-07-2016 , 08:07 PM
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Sure, maybe I've had an amazing one-off existence, or maybe you are deluded and easily tricked into believing that there exist people who are on a selfless quest for universal truth. Its definitely one of those two though!

You realize I'm not like making this **** up or basing it off my personal anecdotes right? There are many things that I can conceive of as being possible, but that is not the standard for believing in them that I choose to apply.
Wait, nath....do you think that YOU are one of these people? LOOOOOOOL
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