Yeah... we're gonna need some NY 2p2ers to go to this and give us a liveblog of the entire experience.

I spent some time thinking about this last night, and totally agree on the teammate part. I am of the belief that if you were drafting a team and had first pick of all of the people in challenge history, I think you take Landon first. He's probably the best teammate while the game is going on, and his ability to keep a team together when people are going nuts in the house is definitely underrated. However, Laurel isn't anywhere near as strong in a final as she is in a normal challenge, so while the Carley/Landon win is pretty epic, he shouldn't get 100% of the credit.

That being said, if you were putting together an individual final, and had to bet your life on one competitor, I think you bet on Darrell-little more endurance and definitely way better at puzzles.

I was also trying to think about who I'd want to bet on in an elimination-probably CT, as most of the guy games nowadays are built around power/aggressiveness. I remember the original Frank being super tough in his season in eliminations but almost all of those were puzzles and will-power games, and it seems like those games have been phased out a bit. On the girls side, I'd struggle to choose-I think EVGOAT and EMGOAT are good options, and Jodi/Ruthie are super underrated options. I think you want girls who are coordinated and can figure things out-girls eliminations don't seem as rough as the guys, at least lately.

I'm not sure who on the guys side I'd pick as best house player-maybe Bananas? He typically seems pretty good as far as avoiding eliminations. On the girls side I'd pick Coral and I don't think it's very close.

Wow, I went way too far down the rabbit hole there.

FRANK could go down as the greatest reality character OAT.

I've never seen somebody who is so committed to their lies even though there's no way they are true.

What? No Landon absolutely should get all the credit. He stuck his head in her ass and plowed her up a huge mountain. And carried all the weight. Carley sucked.

yeah, this. and at one point she was grabbing on to him and he was basically dragging her ass uphill while carrying weight.

kenny is pretty good at finals on his own and he had laurel to help him carry **** and even though she's not a super beast in finals she's still massively better than carly on all fronts.

give carly prime CT/evan/whoever and they'll just yell at her a bunch and not help her at all and end up getting smoked by kenny/laurel instead of comfortably winning.

Saw the sneak peek. Will be enjoying next episode from the looks of it.

Watching last episode now.

LOL TY AND LEROY

Camila goating

Frank is lol-overreacting, such a terrible look for him in a week where they have immunity. Seems much better to kick it and lay low.

We will see at this voting if it works or not, i doubt it.

Love this jungle

pretty sure 100% of people i've encountered who drop "heteronormative" during an argument are douches in one way or another, even with me often agreeing with their general point.

I agree and I have never heard that said before

Leroy and Ty are massive favorites here

wow that is a huge start

got ty/leroy -300 on the 3rd run

WHAT THE **** WAS THAT ****

That was WIM vs WIL

Such insane WIL, Leroy was legit 3 ft away from the bell one little squirm and he had that

Frank's aggression on Jordan is now confirmed to be terrible. If he had just laid low and accepted the immunity, and maybe did some minor politicking he would have been in such a better spot.

CT/ Wes are now favorites by a decent margin imo

also LOL Cara Maria, I was looking forward to her getting kinky with the dog collars and acting like a bad bitch, completely pussied out. She probably licks 9 volts and thinks she is a badass

Ty WOATed it up, Leroy bossed it

Yea, Ty giving up at the end when it looked like Leroy had it was pathetic

Wat? I don't know the exact rules, but I'm pretty sure Leroy was on defense and couldn't touch the rope/bell at all

Been tied up irl, just got through this week's episode too. Excellent episode, excellent outcome.

Favorite part was the aforementioned Aneesa rhino stomp in the background. Agree with whoever said she and Diem gotta go. Diem IS right though, it's not asking too much to ask Aneesa to get off her flabby ass once in awhile and try to get a little fit. From my understanding of the production schedule 2/3 of the days are just laying around anyway unless you are a jungle competitor. And even the "on" days usually only require a few minutes of actual effort.

I thought Leroy was on O that one and was being wrestled to the ground so he couldn't grab the bell, and Ty was on D in the middle, but gave up after a bit since he thought Leroy had it. I could def be wrong tho.