Yeah, definitely feel dirty for having watched this last 25 minutes

For anyone that doesn't watch after shows, this is one worth watching.

Next season or two years down the road I think I have this episode as a top 15 one. It's certainly out there but this is like the most pure form of entertainment and is what we were expecting out of Abe. Abe has to think mtv ruined their relationship and is exploiting him now. No chance he ever makes another appearance and it was surprising he was on this season. Thought he was done. Guy is going out with the force of a thousand suns

Bananas lol

Man.

Just the way Abe talks to Cara is abusive

She must be a beaten down human being after 5 years of that

A+ episode and aftershow. Was an all-timer folks.

I can safely say that that's the craziest episode since ct nearly killing Adam.

Yeah, the way she was crying in her bed versus being checked out around him is not a good look.

never forget

No words, holy ****. Abe has Cara so ****ed up in the head he could probably talk her into murdering someone. That was rough to watch at times but great for the dramas.

yet he couldnt talk her into voting Tom in? She claimed to only vote him in after he nominated Jamie.

Also is it just me or does anyone else think abe is one of the more intelligent challengers? Obviously has some issues, but still smart.

I do think cara did abe pretty nasty on this season/show. She should of told him from the get go and it appears that she didn't say anything that was said before tonight and he saw it for himself. I felt bad for abe.

My gut tells me he isn't physically abusive, but who know for sure. That fact that I'm watching their broken relationship unfold for my viewing pleasure doesn't have me feeling very good about myself either. Its sad really

Can we please forget it? I don't want to be murdered

My favorite part of the episode was when they were on the bus & Cara was trying to deflect the situation & she talked about how much ABE said he hated Bananas.

I wish I hadn't deleted the DVRing so I could quote the exact words, but he basically said completely matter of factly, that's true John, I do hate & despise you, before going right back to the rant he was on before.

Great episode all around. People who were ashamed to enjoy it should be ashamed.

When do they tape these after shows? I thought they were after the taping of the whole season, but after watching tonight's after show I'm not so sure.

Incredible television

That guy Booth was the real pimp. Only person who can keep Abram in line.

abe needs to be on every challenge going forward

i just about lost it when i saw the bananas backpack pic in the rooms

ABEs pep talk during the elimination was getting me jacked.

A+ sode would recommend. Top 10.

Credit to JOHN AND VINCE on getting it all started. The VINCE/ABE convo made me laugh so god damn hard. Just delivering some earth shattering news in the most vague way of all time. ABEs face and subsequent confessional were amazing

That elimination was awesome too. Mike gets credit for pulling out his inner Abe.

Was Abe also coked up during that elimination? That was way over the top, then he randomly starts bleeding from his nose.....

Seems unfair for JOHN to be on the show. Continues to manipulate with extreme ease.

ABE cements himself as top 5 Challenger of ALL TIME

Nah that's standard Abe. He gets crazy for eliminations. He head butted his brother at least twice.

He almost gave Mike a black eye on that last one

TEEEEEEEEEEEJ went on a podcast last night

https://soundcloud.com/kfc-radio/no-...be-is-a-psycho