Eta: oh I see what you're asking. Yes will do that shortly

My hope is everyone gets a team that could win, a loser team, and a wildcard

what we mean is we just need tier A, B, and C and that it doesnt matter if we think your #5 is #1 or your #6 is #10 since they'll be in the same group. Then each person will get a tier A, tier B, and tier C team. Someone might end up with teams #1, 7, and 11 while another gets #4, 9, 14 which is ok since most of tier A is drawing pretty live and most of tier C will be a crapshoot at who goes home first vs. halfway or two thirds of the way in anyways.

Got ya.

You're kinda spoilering and you should delete

Tiers should be based off of http://www.mtv.com/shows/the-challen...loodlines/cast

As those are the teams that start the new season

You'll notice there are 14

Meh, I'll just delete. Doesn't really provide any good content anyway. Didn't realize Wiki was spoiling Challenge these days.

I'll do 5 strong 4 meh 5 losers as tiers

They kind of need 15 for a 5 by 3 tho. Might want to just put the mystery team in the meh pile.

Surely the mystery team is added ep 1, wouldn't be fair if they avoided early challenges.

And you see them in the preview ep, you just don't get the cast bio on them.

I'll go ahead & throw this in spoilers in case people don't want to know about the mystery team:

Midpack seems right

I'm ok with adding them on there so long as we're transparent with it. Their pool so I'm good with whatever. I'll add em to middle based on needing 15

Teams/Bloodlines:

1) Abram Boise, Michael Boise (Brother)
2) Aneesa Ferreira, Rianna Polin (Cousin)
3) Camila Nakagawa, Larissa Nakagawa (Sister)
4) Cara Maria Sorbello, Jamie Banks (Cousin)
5) Christina LeBlanc, Emily Reese (Sister)
6) Cohutta Grindstaff, Jill Tuttle (Cousin)
7) Cory Wharton, Mitch Reid (Cousin)
8) Dario Medrano, Raphy Medrano (Twin Brother)
9) Jenna Compono, Brianna Julig (Cousin)
10) Johnny Devenanzio, Vince Gliatta (Cousin)
11) KellyAnne Judd, Anthony Cuomo (Cousin)
12) Leroy Garrett, Candice Fowler (Cousin)
13) Nany González, Nicole Ramos (Cousin)
14) Thomas Buell, Stephen Buell (Twin)
15) Tony Raines, Shane Raines (Brothers)

Tiers:
1 - Strong
2 - Good
3 - Bad

1
Johnny Devenanzio, Vince Gliatta (Cousin)
Cory Wharton, Mitch Reid (Cousin)
Dario Medrano, Raphy Medrano (Twin Brother)
Thomas Buell, Stephen Buell (Twin)
Cara Maria Sorbello, Jamie Banks (Cousin)


2
Abram Boise, Michael Boise (Brother)
KellyAnne Judd, Anthony Cuomo (Cousin)
Leroy Garrett, Candice Fowler (Cousin)
Cohutta Grindstaff, Jill Tuttle (Cousin)
Nany González, Nicole Ramos (Cousin)

3
Aneesa Ferreira, Rianna Polin (Cousin)
Camila Nakagawa, Larissa Nakagawa (Sister)
Tony Raines, Shane Raines (Brother)
Christina LeBlanc, Emily Reese (Sister)
Jenna Compono, Brianna Julig (Cousin)

Seems generally good to me. I feel like I would be hating life if my tier 1 was Tom x2, though.

Cohutta criminally under ranked. Assuming they can somewhat levels set for guy girl combo I expect big things from them.

Edit:Aka maybe not, forgot the middle section wasn't in order of rank. Probably put them around 6, maybe 5.

I also think Tony is under ranked. He is pretty good for his body weight and his brother is surely better than some of the girls ahead of him.

Overall looks good though.

oh yeah, can i update? one to make one t1/t2 switch

actually you know what. want to keep as is. seems SOLID and any dolt wanna CHALLENGE can get to STEPPING.

partners history was taken into consideration.

KellyAnne has been a beast female competitor on the challenge in the past. I would've had her/her partner tier 1.

Near elite female competitor is just a big edge in these things.

Ya, when they are competing against other girls. This season it could be no help. Hard to say

Yeah, I'd prob flop Cohutta with Tom, but YOLO.

This should be a pretty good season in terms of the alliances being shaky and everyone not falling in line.

Some past seasons were great for entertainment but the strategy aspect sucked because of alliances (Rivals 1 comes to mind, Rivals 2 also to a lesser extent)

Actual dario and Raphy are way over ranked in terms of win equity. Rookies and all. Which makes me think Tony ranking is fine. All rookies should be bottom tier, maybe the twins could sneak up to mid tier since they will likely not struggle in eliminations.


Good ranking in terms of TALENT tho.

There could be an in thread game where someone collected PM'd power rankings 1-15 from everyone & you get points multiplied by how high you have them ranked. For example, when TEAM JENNA wins, & you have them #1 in your power rankings, you get 100 x 15 = 1,500 points, but if you have them #15 in your power rankings, you get 100 x 1 = 100 points.

Doesn't seem reasonable to wager money on that, though, due to all the spoilers and possible shenanigans that could come into play.

(using the below scoring system)

Is being rookies that big of a disadvantage this year tho?

Half the cast is rookies, Cara Maria and Bananas hate each other so that isn't going to be some huge alliance. Bananas has Camilla and Leroy but their partners probably suck so it shouldn't help him a ton. Nany's cousin probably can't do much either. LolAneesa and her cousin too.

Corey and his cousin are rookies too. I don't think rookies is that bad this time around if you can compete.

Rookies is always bad, it was even bad on battle of the seasons iirc. And obviously by rookies I mean a team of 0 challenge vets.

It actually makes sense, it makes the early votes easier without having to get strategic or political early and it increases the average vets money earning.