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08-23-2007 , 11:01 PM
i am familiar with the situation, but it wasn't my question.
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08-23-2007 , 11:25 PM
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less than 5% chance new fenway would be where new fenway is.
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08-23-2007 , 11:29 PM
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i am familiar with the situation, but it wasn't my question.
i answered your question
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08-23-2007 , 11:30 PM
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less than 5% chance new fenway would be where new fenway is.

err typo
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08-23-2007 , 11:31 PM
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i am familiar with the situation, but it wasn't my question.
i answered your question
where would you put the team?
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08-23-2007 , 11:32 PM
sylar,

Sublime's right. Location isn't really the problem. It's politics. People are in love with that ballpark and don't want to see it go. I'm pretty sure back when talks were heavy about a new ballpark, some plans included keeping the same location and having a little "Fenway Museum" type thing be part of the lobby to the new ballpark. But they decided to cram more seats in instead.

I don't know why thoughts of Worcester, Providence, or Foxboro come to mind. Even if you couldn't put a new ballpark in Kenmore Sq., there's still room in Boston, even if you have to get out of the Back Bay. There's like, a 0.01% chance the team wouldn't play in Boston (or at the very least, Boston/Cambridge/Somerville.. somewhere with T access).
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08-23-2007 , 11:39 PM
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i am familiar with the situation, but it wasn't my question.
i answered your question
where would you put the team?
where they are now?

if a new stadium goes up it will most likely be on the south boston waterfront....which creates problems, mostly because southie carries a lot of political weight and the old donkeys over there dont want their town to become a thoroughfare.
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08-23-2007 , 11:40 PM
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sylar,

Sublime's right. Location isn't really the problem. It's politics. People are in love with that ballpark and don't want to see it go. I'm pretty sure back when talks were heavy about a new ballpark, some plans included keeping the same location and having a little "Fenway Museum" type thing be part of the lobby to the new ballpark. But they decided to cram more seats in instead.

I don't know why thoughts of Worcester, Providence, or Foxboro come to mind. Even if you couldn't put a new ballpark in Kenmore Sq., there's still room in Boston, even if you have to get out of the Back Bay. There's like, a 0.01% chance the team wouldn't play in Boston (or at the very least, Boston/Cambridge/Somerville.. somewhere with T access).
ok, let me rephrase for sublime, if it were upto YOU, where would YOU put the team?

this isn't my hometown, but i don't know that many sites where you could put another stadium in boston. perhaps you do. somerville has T access now???
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08-23-2007 , 11:47 PM
Somerville is on the Red Line (Davis Sq), and I think they're whining about getting Green Line access (besides the Lechmere stop which is sorta close to a boring part of Somerville).

I dunno where I'd want it. Kenmore would be cool just because it's fun seeing all the hulabaloo on game days out there, but it's obviously space constrained (I'm sure wherever they put a new one, they want parking, because they must lose a ton on that now). Southie has space. Dorchester could probably work. They could figure out something.
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08-24-2007 , 12:13 AM
i would put the team in the burbs ala the pats. i dont give a rats ass if they are in the actual city of boston. what i care about is having a seat that actually faces the plate, having a comfortable seat, have a park that can accessed easily, affordable parking etc.....

most of all, having enough seats so it doesnt cost a days work to see a game AND having enough revenue from tickets to even the playing field w the MFY;s.
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08-24-2007 , 12:28 AM
hmmm.. I wonder how many seats they could add without reducing the price.
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08-24-2007 , 09:52 AM
lol at portsmouth. That would be funny. P-town wouldn't be able to handle that at all.
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08-24-2007 , 11:13 AM
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most of all, having enough seats so it doesnt cost a days work to see a game AND having enough revenue from tickets to even the playing field w the MFY;s.
More seats is a good idea, but you know that revenue from general-public ticket sales (or at least ticket revenue in excess of Fenway's) is a very small part of the total revenue base of the Yankees...

New Yankee Stadium is going to have less seats... but more corporate boxes, of course...
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08-24-2007 , 11:19 AM
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i would put the team in the burbs ala the pats.
Football is different, obv. There are only 8 home games and they are events unto themselves with the tailgating etc where people make a day of it and will travel long distances. So usually, a baseball team needs to be in the City in the population center with Mass Transit to make it easier to attract that large fan base for an 81 game home season.

Perhaps, the Sox, with their unbleievable popularity could still draw gangbusters in the burbs, but I think the preferred location is in the City.
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08-24-2007 , 11:32 AM
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lol at portsmouth. That would be funny. P-town wouldn't be able to handle that at all.
p-town = provincetown. I'm guessing he meant portsmouth, nh, which doesn't make much sense.
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08-24-2007 , 11:44 AM
i was just throwing out town names of cities that are close. i wasn't really proposing any of them.

imo, they'd have to stay in boston. south seems pretty good and metropolitan, as there are some new complexes down there, but i understand there are local politics issues. if it were upto me, i'd put it anywhere between brookline to newton. keep the boston suburbs feel, revitalize the area a bit.

rant: if somerville is on the T by virtue of one Davis Sq station, then that's pretty sad. Lechmere is the station i traveled to daily. i guess it could go further north, but the green line sucks donkey balls. if it weren't for everyone in boston being so retAHrded, they'd blowup the T and build a better one. /rant
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08-24-2007 , 11:49 AM
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if it weren't for everyone in boston being so retAHrded, they'd blowup the T and build a better one. /rant
You think the Federal Government would give Boston big bucks for Mass Transit rebuild after giving $14 Billion for the big dig?
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08-24-2007 , 11:49 AM
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lol at portsmouth. That would be funny. P-town wouldn't be able to handle that at all.
p-town = provincetown. I'm guessing he meant portsmouth, nh, which doesn't make much sense.
I was talking about Portsmouth. I'm from Rochester which is about 20-30 minutes from Portsmouth, and we call it P-Town. But yeah, if any NH city is going to get a Professional Team, it'd be Manchester, maybe Nashua.
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08-24-2007 , 01:34 PM
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if it weren't for everyone in boston being so retAHrded, they'd blowup the T and build a better one. /rant
You think the Federal Government would give Boston big bucks for Mass Transit rebuild after giving $14 Billion for the big dig?
20 years ago, given the choice of the big dig or a rebuild of the MBTA, i'd choose the latter.

you can potentially double or triple the number of people using the subway system. the big dig didn't improve the roads by that much.
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08-24-2007 , 03:09 PM
Hawk "Its like that old baseball adage: 'A good baserunner (long pause) doesn't need a 3rd base coach' "

I have not heard, nor can I find anything similar to this 'adage' anywhere. But, I guess its like they say "A crappy baseball announcer, ummm, packs the sacks dab gummit
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08-24-2007 , 05:31 PM
Papelbon better no be coming in this first game.. 8-3 as I type, maybe more. This will come back to bite them.
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08-24-2007 , 05:32 PM
"He gone!" is much less annoying when you can think to yourself, "Look at the scoreboard, Hawk."
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08-24-2007 , 05:35 PM
I Mike Myers
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08-24-2007 , 06:26 PM
in case peop,e didnt know, lester was sent down for one start. it helps give guys extra reast, as down the stretch, dice and schilling will have 5 days off twice etc....it also alligns dice/beck/schill to fac the NYY in all 6 games, the last three when all three will have 5 days off as opposed to 4.

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8/24-26 @ CWS: Beckett + Schilling, Wake, Tavarez
8/27 off
8/28-30 @ NYY: Daisuke (5), Beckett (4), Schilling (5)
8/31-/92 Bal: Wake (5), Tavarez (5), Lester (5)
9/3-5 Tor: Daisuke (5), Beckett (5), Schilling (5)
9/6-9/9 @ Balt: Wake (5), Lester (4), Daisuke (4), Beckett (4)
9/10-12 TB: Schilling (4), Wake (4), Lester (4)
9/13: off day
9/14-16 NYY: Daisuke (5), Beckett (5), Schilling (5)
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08-24-2007 , 06:32 PM
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in case peop,e didnt know, lester was sent down for one start. it helps give guys extra reast, as down the stretch, dice and schilling will have 5 days off twice etc....it also alligns dice/beck/schill to fac the NYY in all 6 games, the last three when all three will have 5 days off as opposed to 4.

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8/24-26 @ CWS: Beckett + Schilling, Wake, Tavarez
8/27 off
8/28-30 @ NYY: Daisuke (5), Beckett (4), Schilling (5)
8/31-/92 Bal: Wake (5), Tavarez (5), Lester (5)
9/3-5 Tor: Daisuke (5), Beckett (5), Schilling (5)
9/6-9/9 @ Balt: Wake (5), Lester (4), Daisuke (4), Beckett (4)
9/10-12 TB: Schilling (4), Wake (4), Lester (4)
9/13: off day
9/14-16 NYY: Daisuke (5), Beckett (5), Schilling (5)
That's all well and good but Buchholz should still be starting those games over Tavarez and Lester.
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