NFL Week 9 Discussion: tebowing and how the Colts and LOLphins stayed alive. - Page 16 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

Two Plus Two Forums Sports and Games Sporting Events

NFL Week 9 Discussion: tebowing and how the Colts and LOLphins stayed alive.

View Poll Results: Best Rookie QB

Cam Newton

75 72.12%

Christian Ponder

11 10.58%

Blaine Gabbert lol

6 5.77%

Andy Dalton

12 11.54%

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 16 of 35

First

6 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 26

Last

Page 16 of 35

First

6 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 26

Last

10-31-2011 , 11:39 PM

#376

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by D104

I'm really shocked at how bad McNabb has fallen off. With these last 2 years, I feel like he's hurt his legacy a bit more than most old QBs who change teams. Yay/nay?

Nay, almost everyone goes out this way. His legacy is a firm foot in the HOVG.

Quote

10-31-2011 , 11:39 PM

#377

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by agdci981

Which goes back to my previous point. Ben sees that type of pressure every dropback. Yet, it is always his fault he is taking sacks. When it is Brees, it is because the Saints "signed some guy off the street to play tackle." Well, guess what? The Steelers signed Max Starks off the street just a few weeks ago to play LT.

Big Rapes career sack %

Spoiler:

Drew Brees career sack %

Spoiler:

Big Rapes current season %

Spoiler:

Drew Brees current season %

Spoiler:

LOL

Spoiler:

Quote

10-31-2011 , 11:42 PM

#378

agdci981

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,081

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Also, what are you trying to prove? I understand Ben gets sacked more than Brees.

Quote

10-31-2011 , 11:48 PM

#379

five4suited

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 9,026

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixticator

Nay, almost everyone goes out this way. His legacy is a firm foot in the HOVG.

I do think he was underrated for most of his career, but he didn't just go out looking bad and sucking at times. he went out not giving a ****. I think that sticks with him.

Quote

10-31-2011 , 11:50 PM

#380

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by agdci981

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Also, what are you trying to prove? I understand Ben gets sacked more than Brees.

Brees hasn't gotten sacked much over his entire career. This year is noticeable different from the rest of his career. Big Rape has been getting sacked a ton his entire career. Pitt hasn't had a terrible o-line every year since 2004.

The reason why people say he's getting sacked a ton because his ol sucks is because he hasn't spent his entire career getting sacked just under 10% of the time like Big rape.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:02 AM

#381

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by five4suited

I do think he was underrated for most of his career, but he didn't just go out looking bad and sucking at times. he went out not giving a ****. I think that sticks with him.

I see what you mean. Meh. He's always been aloof. I doubt he stopped caring or trying.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:20 AM

#382

MacGuyV

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg

You think the Chargers are better than the Bills? HAHAHAHAohWOWZERS, that's good!!!!

Dude, the Bills were an underdog @KC. SD was favored @KC. What else do you need to know? Come at me bro!

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:22 AM

#383

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyV

Dude, the Bills were an underdog @KC. SD was favored @KC. What else do you need to know? Come at me bro!

Yeah pretty sure there's been a ton of new info on the bills since week 1, so it's pretty obvious your argument is just about the dumbest thing ever.

Also:

Spoiler:

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:22 AM

#384

iggymcfly

runs good at HORSE

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26,044

Haven't done power rankings in a while, but worked on these all through the 2nd half of the MNF game, and think they're pretty good.

1. Packers 7-0
2. Eagles 3-4
3. Saints 5-3
4. Patriots 5-2
5. Steelers 6-2
6. Ravens 5-2
7. 49ers 6-1
8. Lions 6-2
9. Bills 5-2
10. Jets 4-3
11. Cowboys 3-4
12. Texans 5-3
13. Chargers 4-3
14. Bears 4-3
15. Falcons 4-3
16. Bengals 5-2
17. Chiefs 4-3
18. Panthers 2-6
19. Titans 4-3
20. Giants 5-2
21. Buccaneers 4-3
22. Redskins 3-4
23. Vikings 2-6
24. Raiders 4-3
25. Jaguars 2-6
26. Cardinals 1-6
27. Seahawks 2-5
28. Dolphins 0-7
29. Broncos 2-5
30. Browns 3-4
31. Rams 1-6
32. Colts 0-8

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:23 AM

#385

agdci981

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,081

iggy, what did you do? Just put teams into a random number generator for that mess of a list?

Eagles, Saints and Pats inside the top 4? LOL come on bro. Also, there is no way the Broncos aren't 31 or 32 as long as Tebow is starting.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:24 AM

#386

MacGuyV

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Yeah pretty sure there's been a ton of new info on the bills since week 1, so it's pretty obvious your argument is just about the dumbest thing ever.

Also:

Spoiler:

That's cool - you can have your actual results. I'll rejoice in my little point spread victory and feel good about it.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:26 AM

#387

iggymcfly

runs good at HORSE

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26,044

Patriots obviously have to be above Steelers since they were just favored over them by 3 on the road, and the Steelers are 3.5 point favorites over the Ravens this week. Why don't you like them in the Top 4?

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:27 AM

#388

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Lions win over KC looking better? Or not really applicable because this is a 'different' KC team?

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:27 AM

#389

agdci981

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,081

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggymcfly

They are horrible defensively and shouldn't be ranked above the team that just completely beat them down.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:29 AM

#390

shane88888

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,984

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

rape and brees have similar career length equity going forward. brees is obv better aorn. not really sure how its even a discussion other than stiller fans they ghana stiller fan.

This is dumb. Ben is in his age 29 season. Brees is in age 32 season.

These are probably going to be Ben's very best years. Brees might already be on the decline.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Big Rapes career sack %

Spoiler:

Drew Brees career sack %

Spoiler:

Yet they have ~= career ANY/A.

Brees gets credit for volume but he's also played almost all of his career with outstanding protection in perfect home conditions (and in warm-weather divisions) and the bulk of his career with a great playcaller. Plus he's already probably played his peak.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:31 AM

#391

iggymcfly

runs good at HORSE

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26,044

Quote:

Originally Posted by agdci981

They are horrible defensively and shouldn't be ranked above the team that just completely beat them down.

Yeah, a one possession game is such a "beatdown" that you should reevaluate your opinions of the team by 6 points in Week 8 of the season. LOL @ you.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:35 AM

#392

agdci981

banned

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,081

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggymcfly

Yeah, a one possession game is such a "beatdown" that you should reevaluate your opinions of the team by 6 points in Week 8 of the season. LOL @ you.

Come on man....

Total Net Yards	213	427
Total Plays	50	78
Average Gain	4.3	5.5
Net Yards Rushing	43	98
Rushes	12	23
Avg. Per Rush	3.6	4.3
Net Yards Passing	170	329
Comp.-Att.	24-35	36-50
Yards Per Pass	4.5	6.0
Sacked-Yards Lost	3-28	5-36
Penalties-Yards	6-37	8-50
Fumbles-Lost	1-0	1-0
Time Of Pos.	20:38	39:22

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:36 AM

#393

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

yet their next game probably opens with the pats as favorites.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:41 AM

#394

shane88888

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,984

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

They've had a below-average to terrible line beginning in 2006.

Hartings, Marvel, and Simmons all fell apart physically and Faneca was in serious decline.

Ben had two seasons with a + OL.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:41 AM

#395

iggymcfly

runs good at HORSE

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26,044

OK, so they outgained them by 1.2 YPP at home. And you think this proves your point how? If you wanna make a side bet, I'd be willing to put down a very large sum that the Pats are favored by at least 3.5 if they play the Steelers at home in the playoffs or are dogs of no more than 2.5 if they play in Pittsburgh.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:43 AM

#396

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Chiefs in first place lol, how? They played incredibly bad to start the season. Get yer popcorn ready for the division race. Very interested to see how Palmer looks next week - my hunch, awful.

Chiefs have a brutal schedule. Chargers WIL is endless. Raiders were the best team... now who knows.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:46 AM

#397

Pudge714

Modding All Day

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39,104

tarheels,
I posted this in the Vikings thread, but I think Ponder's best throw all day was an incompletion on a deep post to Shiancoe in double coverage.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:53 AM

#398

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 77,442

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane88888

This is dumb. Ben is in his age 29 season. Brees is in age 32 season.

These are probably going to be Ben's very best years. Brees might already be on the decline.

lol at declining at 32. regardless, roeth takes a ton moar hits than brees and has rape equity for suspension. or death equity for lol driving. if anyone else had rape's history i would expect them to have far less seasons than brees going forward but rape has proven indestructible thus far.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:55 AM

#399

Needle77

No Longer Protecting

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 43,898

Yeah but Brees still has his appendix.

Quote

11-01-2011 , 12:55 AM

#400

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Saints have been awful lately in case you haven't been paying attention. They are one team in the dome and a different one on the road. Should've lost in Carolina. How are they in the top 5?

And why does nobody believe the Lions are legit, blows my mind. Got lucky against Dallas but every other win is legit. Two very close losses. Top 5 type offense, top 5 type defense. 5+5=10th best team?

Quote

Page 16 of 35

First

6 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 26

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 16 of 35

First

6 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 26

Last