NFL Regular Season 2017
11-03-2017
, 06:39 PM
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Watched a few games of wentz. My thoughts even though it's still tl;dr. games skimmed vs UNI (2015), SDST (2015), JVST (2015 title game)
He jumps on passes on roll outs/on the move, it's driving me crazy.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT THROW I yelled five or six times in the UNI game. (also in that game but not in the others he didn't really know what to do when his first read wasn't open)
The "strong arm, can make all the throws" cliche, actually does apply here, he will make throws that NFL scouts drool over and will make one you'll cringe and just hope it's not an INT.
He does not give a **** about good single coverage, he still rifles it in there. (and he can get away with it)
His sideline throws are the best part of his game, defenders try to jump it and it still goes over their heads and it's a catch.
If he sees a one on one matchup he likes, he'll go to it. Jump ball, whatever. I think it's an absolute must to pair him with a WR who can win contested deep ball catches because if his team doesn't have one, he's gonna throw some picks if he keeps thinking to do that.
Looks to me like he has + football IQ--if not at the very least he does a lot of quick identifying single coverage and attacking on plays (some of this is by design but some of it looks like wentz doing it).
A negative in that his quickness is that I think he's vulnerable to defenders jumping routes for picks imo especially aggressive zone cover safeties.
Wish he'd throw the ball in front of the receiver so he can catch in stride instead of at him more often. I think his throws get there a tick late for NFL but this is based entirely on feel and probably can be improved upon.
if I'm DC'ing against him I'm definitely tempted to use outside blitzes (or simply just make him move and he might revert into jump passing crap) and have defenders jump every route inside the numbers.
The bad for this evaluation--due to some read option, quickness of play and his OL vs the teams he faced, he did not face much pressure especially on the edge. Thus, his feel of the pocket is a ? for me and that's one of the big important ones for NFL success.
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*shrugs* I can see why the NFL loves him as he does the stuff they look for, (ie, he's tall, white, doesn't have short hands, and can sling it) Rumor has it he nailed interview/whiteboard too, best in years these rumors say, and if true, I think he's gonna start day 1, even if browns current non left side of OL may suggest that might not be the best idea) He also only started about a year and a half @NDSU, harder to project than I had hoped.
He jumps on passes on roll outs/on the move, it's driving me crazy.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT THROW I yelled five or six times in the UNI game. (also in that game but not in the others he didn't really know what to do when his first read wasn't open)
The "strong arm, can make all the throws" cliche, actually does apply here, he will make throws that NFL scouts drool over and will make one you'll cringe and just hope it's not an INT.
He does not give a **** about good single coverage, he still rifles it in there. (and he can get away with it)
His sideline throws are the best part of his game, defenders try to jump it and it still goes over their heads and it's a catch.
If he sees a one on one matchup he likes, he'll go to it. Jump ball, whatever. I think it's an absolute must to pair him with a WR who can win contested deep ball catches because if his team doesn't have one, he's gonna throw some picks if he keeps thinking to do that.
Looks to me like he has + football IQ--if not at the very least he does a lot of quick identifying single coverage and attacking on plays (some of this is by design but some of it looks like wentz doing it).
A negative in that his quickness is that I think he's vulnerable to defenders jumping routes for picks imo especially aggressive zone cover safeties.
Wish he'd throw the ball in front of the receiver so he can catch in stride instead of at him more often. I think his throws get there a tick late for NFL but this is based entirely on feel and probably can be improved upon.
if I'm DC'ing against him I'm definitely tempted to use outside blitzes (or simply just make him move and he might revert into jump passing crap) and have defenders jump every route inside the numbers.
The bad for this evaluation--due to some read option, quickness of play and his OL vs the teams he faced, he did not face much pressure especially on the edge. Thus, his feel of the pocket is a ? for me and that's one of the big important ones for NFL success.
cliffs
*shrugs* I can see why the NFL loves him as he does the stuff they look for, (ie, he's tall, white, doesn't have short hands, and can sling it) Rumor has it he nailed interview/whiteboard too, best in years these rumors say, and if true, I think he's gonna start day 1, even if browns current non left side of OL may suggest that might not be the best idea) He also only started about a year and a half @NDSU, harder to project than I had hoped.
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Hogan 14 tape trash
Hogan 15 tape, top 5 in the class and I can't tell why people like wentz better from a h2h standpoint other than herd following. Hogan throws a deep ball better from a consistency standpoint and definitely more accurate over the middle/intermediate and has way better ball placement.
Adams is somewhere between draft twitter's first round nonsense and NFL immediately ignoring him due to size/lack of getting rid of the ball quickly. He is Russell Wilson lite tho (good and bad). Hope he tries Seattle's camp since he won't get drafted. (and being a pacific northwest guy) also there's some rule where if a black guy is your starting QB, the backup has to be as well.
Hogan 15 tape, top 5 in the class and I can't tell why people like wentz better from a h2h standpoint other than herd following. Hogan throws a deep ball better from a consistency standpoint and definitely more accurate over the middle/intermediate and has way better ball placement.
Adams is somewhere between draft twitter's first round nonsense and NFL immediately ignoring him due to size/lack of getting rid of the ball quickly. He is Russell Wilson lite tho (good and bad). Hope he tries Seattle's camp since he won't get drafted. (and being a pacific northwest guy) also there's some rule where if a black guy is your starting QB, the backup has to be as well.
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THE YOUR TEAM HAS MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE EDITION
The rams are going to take Jared Goff. Let's check the stats.
vs Utah 5 INT's and a lost fumble. The only person in the NFL approving of that many turnovers at one time is Andy Reid. (HA A FAT JOKE GET IT? HAHAHAHAHAHA)
anyway, gl with that guy rams.
also he got benched vs Oregon a year ago b/c his small hands couldn't hold on to the ball.
The Eagles are gonna draft Carson Wentz. In Wentz's profile the top 5 things everyone loves about him have nothing to do with actually playing football. The Eagles just know you can't have enough backup QB's in the NFL, they paid big $ for two and then spent half a draft and parts of two others getting a third one.
Also he wrote this, How we play football in North Dakota
It's much worse than you think.
Even though he sucks b/c you traded with the browns, which means wentz will inexplicably dilfer multiple super bowls. This sounds good to Eagles fans until they realize Dilfer was drafted by the Bucs.
Also, the Chargers are rumored to be taking stanley over tunsil because reasons, or buckner, depending on who's not full of ****.
Probably won't be many trades, but the team trading up will probably regret it.
Guys that I've got taken way too high outside of every QB in the draft today.
Leonard Floyd
Jack Conklin
so I've got jags + Giants b/c it would be the third straight year at least the Jags take a top 20 guy in the top 5 and the Giants becoming the first team to take OT's in r1 in b2b drafts and still needing 2 starting OT's is amazing.
and a massive lol to all the teams giving up many picks for a kinda ****ty or total **** QB today.
The rams are going to take Jared Goff. Let's check the stats.
vs Utah 5 INT's and a lost fumble. The only person in the NFL approving of that many turnovers at one time is Andy Reid. (HA A FAT JOKE GET IT? HAHAHAHAHAHA)
anyway, gl with that guy rams.
also he got benched vs Oregon a year ago b/c his small hands couldn't hold on to the ball.
The Eagles are gonna draft Carson Wentz. In Wentz's profile the top 5 things everyone loves about him have nothing to do with actually playing football. The Eagles just know you can't have enough backup QB's in the NFL, they paid big $ for two and then spent half a draft and parts of two others getting a third one.
Also he wrote this, How we play football in North Dakota
It's much worse than you think.
Even though he sucks b/c you traded with the browns, which means wentz will inexplicably dilfer multiple super bowls. This sounds good to Eagles fans until they realize Dilfer was drafted by the Bucs.
Also, the Chargers are rumored to be taking stanley over tunsil because reasons, or buckner, depending on who's not full of ****.
Probably won't be many trades, but the team trading up will probably regret it.
Guys that I've got taken way too high outside of every QB in the draft today.
Leonard Floyd
Jack Conklin
so I've got jags + Giants b/c it would be the third straight year at least the Jags take a top 20 guy in the top 5 and the Giants becoming the first team to take OT's in r1 in b2b drafts and still needing 2 starting OT's is amazing.
and a massive lol to all the teams giving up many picks for a kinda ****ty or total **** QB today.
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Still not buying the Wentz hype. I think Lynch is better. Hell, I think Cook has a better chance to be a starting-caliber QB long term, if not an elite one.
Cardale Jones has a non-insignificant chance to end up as the best QB from this draft.
Cardale Jones has a non-insignificant chance to end up as the best QB from this draft.
11-03-2017
, 07:26 PM
11-03-2017
, 07:55 PM
Sorry, got distracted by work...
Not sure if this last one is related, but...
Then I saw this right at the tail end of that convo...
Which made me
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true, but an even better indicator is surname syllables.
Of 20 QBs to have appeared in more than 1 Super Bowl, 16 have had 2 syllable surnames, 2 have had 1 syllable surnames, (Starr, Favre) only 1 has had 3 syllables (Tarkenton) and 1 has had 4 (Rape).
I realise that 2 syllable QBs flame out too, but we've seen what happens when arrogant GMs try to buck the odds and pick Mettenberger, Hackenburg, Osweiler and their ilk. When will these guys learn?
It's no wonder Teddy Bridgewater got injured - he had the weight of all those 3 and 4 syllable failures throughout history dragging him down. I'd be betting on a very nasty end to the Tannehill's career coming very soon.
I don't care what scouting reports I read on Trubisky, Peterman, Torgerson, they're off my board and staying there
Of 20 QBs to have appeared in more than 1 Super Bowl, 16 have had 2 syllable surnames, 2 have had 1 syllable surnames, (Starr, Favre) only 1 has had 3 syllables (Tarkenton) and 1 has had 4 (Rape).
I realise that 2 syllable QBs flame out too, but we've seen what happens when arrogant GMs try to buck the odds and pick Mettenberger, Hackenburg, Osweiler and their ilk. When will these guys learn?
It's no wonder Teddy Bridgewater got injured - he had the weight of all those 3 and 4 syllable failures throughout history dragging him down. I'd be betting on a very nasty end to the Tannehill's career coming very soon.
I don't care what scouting reports I read on Trubisky, Peterman, Torgerson, they're off my board and staying there
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The Paul Perkins era is upon us
More than that, it's the Cool Name Theory. Good QBs have short, punchy names, or otherwise cool-sounding names. Tom Brady. Joe Montana. Drew Brees. Cam Newton. Bart Starr. Dan Fouts. Steve Young. I could go on. Point is, a QB's name should sound like it could belong on a TV series followed by "Private Eye."
Bad QBs have names that make them sound like spoiled brats. Like daddy had to sell the second yacht to pay for prep school. These entitled ****s never make it because they've been spoiled all their lives. Blaine Gabbert. Brady Quinn. Christian Hackenberg. Brock Osweiler.
The one exception is Peyton Manning-- he's just too talented. But if you remember how he used to whine when defenses wouldn't do what he wanted them to in the playoffs, you'll understand how spoiled-brat theory fits him.
More than that, it's the Cool Name Theory. Good QBs have short, punchy names, or otherwise cool-sounding names. Tom Brady. Joe Montana. Drew Brees. Cam Newton. Bart Starr. Dan Fouts. Steve Young. I could go on. Point is, a QB's name should sound like it could belong on a TV series followed by "Private Eye."
Bad QBs have names that make them sound like spoiled brats. Like daddy had to sell the second yacht to pay for prep school. These entitled ****s never make it because they've been spoiled all their lives. Blaine Gabbert. Brady Quinn. Christian Hackenberg. Brock Osweiler.
The one exception is Peyton Manning-- he's just too talented. But if you remember how he used to whine when defenses wouldn't do what he wanted them to in the playoffs, you'll understand how spoiled-brat theory fits him.
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Mitch Trubisky is doomed given he's 3 syllables and there are no cool people in the world called 'Mitchell'
DeShaun Watson has the motivation - he really needs to make it work in football because nobody called DeShaun has ever gotten a promotion in an office environment
DeShone Kizer has similar first name issues but a way cooler surname and we could see him having his own show on MTV later in life
I'm going with Davis Webb. It's not brilliant, but he could have his own detective show and it kind of rolls off the tongue quite nicely
Poor CJ Beathard is completely ****ed, but I'm not telling him that. Anybody with that name learned how to fight at an early age (see Christine Michael) and should not be messed with
DeShaun Watson has the motivation - he really needs to make it work in football because nobody called DeShaun has ever gotten a promotion in an office environment
DeShone Kizer has similar first name issues but a way cooler surname and we could see him having his own show on MTV later in life
I'm going with Davis Webb. It's not brilliant, but he could have his own detective show and it kind of rolls off the tongue quite nicely
Poor CJ Beathard is completely ****ed, but I'm not telling him that. Anybody with that name learned how to fight at an early age (see Christine Michael) and should not be messed with
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Revis was attacked by 5 men in Pittsburgh. Not clear how badly hurt he is.
Too soon to ask where AJ Green and Sammy Watkins were at that time?
Too soon to ask where AJ Green and Sammy Watkins were at that time?
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