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02-07-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2026

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by THEBIGYELLOWJOINT

If anything this season proves Brady is the GOAT. It was the defenition of putting the team on your back.

I don't agree that it proves he is the GOAT, but I do believe it helps us understand how good he is.

There's only two other QB's in the league who would have had a chance to get this team to the super bowl this year.

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02-07-2012 , 01:07 PM

#2027

Case Closed

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Vick, Roethlesburger, Cutler, Rivers all could have led that team to the superbowl .

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02-07-2012 , 01:18 PM

#2028

Will_the_thrill

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Originally Posted by Case Closed

Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Vick, Roethlesburger, Cutler, Rivers all could have led that team to the superbowl .

LOL what.

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02-07-2012 , 01:21 PM

#2029

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don't see why you LOl at cutler.

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02-07-2012 , 01:26 PM

#2030

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by Case Closed

Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Vick, Roethlesburger, Cutler, Rivers all could have led that team to the superbowl .

I disagree but clearly this is based entirely on speculation so I'm not going to say you're crazy.

No way Vick could win with the Pats roster though. That much I will say.

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02-07-2012 , 01:29 PM

#2031

Needle77

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God...I can't wait until Cutler gets a legit team around him. NFL is gonna get destroyed.

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02-07-2012 , 01:33 PM

#2032

Will_the_thrill

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Originally Posted by Needle77

God...I can't wait until Cutler gets a legit team around him. NFL is gonna get destroyed.

you mean having a top 10 defense, goat special teams, and top 5 RB isnt enough?

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02-07-2012 , 01:34 PM

#2033

Needle77

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Originally Posted by Will_the_thrill

you mean having a top 10 defense and top 5 RB isnt enough?

Good solid points. Having a bottom 3 OL and bottom 4 WR corps and no TE probably helps him too.

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02-07-2012 , 01:38 PM

#2034

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i think you could change "bottom 4 wr corps" to "bottom wr corps"

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02-07-2012 , 01:39 PM

#2035

Case Closed

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If Vick could stay healthy he would dominate with the Pat's offense. That o-line is pretty sick. Brady always has tons of time whenever he drops back, so sick.

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02-07-2012 , 01:40 PM

#2036

Kneel B4 Zod

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lol at the Vick argument. do people already forget the Dream Team?

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02-07-2012 , 01:43 PM

#2037

Needle77

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Originally Posted by Debo9

i think you could change "bottom 4 wr corps" to "bottom wr corps"

Umm....

Mike Thomas
Greg Little
Danario Alexander

Yeahhhhh Jags, Browns and Rams definitely worse.

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02-07-2012 , 01:45 PM

#2038

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Originally Posted by Case Closed

If Vick could stay healthy he would dominate with the Pat's offense. That o-line is pretty sick. Brady always has tons of time whenever he drops back, so sick.

1) health is a skill
2) the Pats scored 513 points this year with a average at best defense. wtf how many would they have scored with Vick? a hundred kabillion?

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02-07-2012 , 01:45 PM

#2039

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the dream team was one of the better teams in the league at the end of the year

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02-07-2012 , 01:49 PM

#2040

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Vick can't even see over his own lineman, how the hell would he be able to see all the short receivers the Pats have.

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02-07-2012 , 01:54 PM

#2041

The Rat

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It's not like Jackson, Avant and Maclin are much taller.

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02-07-2012 , 01:55 PM

#2042

Kneel B4 Zod

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Originally Posted by Debo9

the dream team was one of the better teams in the league at the end of the year

they were, it's just a very odd argument to include a guy whose team was considered the most talented in the NFL back in August

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02-07-2012 , 02:47 PM

#2043

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Originally Posted by Needle77

God...I can't wait until Cutler gets a legit team around him. NFL is gonna get destroyed.

Was watching the pregame show and they were talking about Tebow-mania. One of the guys said it's about race--people like him because he's white. Guy I was watching it says, "Jay Cutler is white--yet even his biggest fans hate his guts."

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02-07-2012 , 02:56 PM

#2044

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod

1) health is a skill
2) the Pats scored 513 points this year with a average at best defense. wtf how many would they have scored with Vick? a hundred kabillion?

1) agreed. I think Vick has a better shot at staying healthy on the pats though.
2) No idea. I think Vick could lead that team to the playoffs and possibly the superbowl though. They have a good offense with really capable coaches.

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02-07-2012 , 02:58 PM

#2045

tweedybirdd

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Originally Posted by Needle77

Umm....

Mike Thomas
Greg Little
Danario Alexander

Yeahhhhh Jags, Browns and Rams definitely worse.

Brandon Lloyd tho

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02-07-2012 , 03:55 PM

#2046

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Originally Posted by THEBIGYELLOWJOINT

If anything this season proves Brady is the GOAT. It was the defenition of putting the team on your back.

This is a good point and its only made stronger by the fact that Indy didn't miss a beat with manning gone.

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02-07-2012 , 06:20 PM

#2047

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Originally Posted by Will_the_thrill

LOL what.

If Cutler gets that much time to throw and those targets to throw to they might hand him a SB ring after 3 games.

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Lol how can you hate his guts, he played through getting sacked left and right oh and btw he also has diabetes...lol facial expressions and being pulled from one playoff game

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03-22-2012 , 12:31 AM

#2048

THEBIGYELLOWJOINT

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Tom Brady has never been released from a team. Just saying

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03-22-2012 , 03:03 AM

#2049

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Originally Posted by THEBIGYELLOWJOINT

Tom Brady has never been released from a team. Just saying

Peyton is paid more. Just saying.

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03-22-2012 , 04:24 AM

#2050

SMIGLET

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod

they were, it's just a very odd argument to include a guy whose team was considered the most talented in the NFL back in August

in vicks defense, he had a couple losses that werent his fault at all and just unlucky in general. it also probably took some time to adjust to having an offensive coordinator switch over to defense

they are still likely around a top 10 team for next year, maybe better with the addition of ryans

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