Maybe he can weasel out by defining big playoff games a certain way, but Peyton has been better in the playoffs. I was actually surprised how much better when I looked it up (annoyingly I had to look up sack info and calculate ANY/A myself for the playoffs, though it isn't complicated):

Player	Comp%	Y/A	Int%	Sack%	ANY/A
Manning - Reg Season	64.8%	7.70	2.77%	3.2%	7.10
Brady - Reg Season	63.3%	7.31	2.35%	4.9%	6.65
Manning - Playoffs	62.4%	7.47	2.78%	3.6%	6.52
Brady - Playoffs	62.0%	6.45	2.35%	4.6%	5.68

Peyton's ANY/A drops about 0.58 in the playoffs compared to the regular season, around 8% less. Brady's drops about 0.98 or is about 15% lower in the playoffs.

Peyton has played just fine in the playoffs.

Player	Rangz
Manning	1.55
Brady	3

What is the average rate of drop in he playoffs? Since you're playing against better teams, and therefore better defenses on average, all QBs should display some drop-off, right?

POTY

this thread gets locked monday morning, right?

i don't blame tom brady, and he is awesome, a no doubt hof'er. but the pats (belicheck, to be exact) probably cheated their asses off (or tried to) all 3 times they won. and they won by a fg all three times.

peyton certainly choked earlier in his career, but he's the better player now. two more years like this one and he's looking at goat status. or one more ring (after the one he wins sunday).

He's already GOAT son

I can't stand Peyton, but he is clearly the best QB in the business, probably ever. He throws a better ball than Brady, is a coach on the field and does not have an * by his super bowl title.

I always felt from watching almost every game he's played for the Colts, that he throws the worst looking ball of any "good" quarterback I've ever seen. Some of those thing are just literally ducks coming out. His accuracy overcomes that though. He puts the ball in the tightest windows I've ever seen.

I'm really surprised at this. I remember quite a few stinkers Peyton's had in the playoffs--the best game he played during the SB run was the SB itself. I do remember him torching Denver a couple of times which likely inflated the stats. He also played pretty well in the two San Diego losses, he definitely wasn't the reason they lost either of those games.

My memory could be of but I think in 04 the Colts didn't punt in their first two playoff games and put up some insane numbers before laying an egg against the Pats. Anyway I think the reason people (including myself until recentley) perceive Brady to be a much better postseason player than Manning was his absurd stretch in the playoffs where he never lost. He made all the big "clutch plays" in his first few times making the playoffs, but those Pats teams were still mainly elite defensive teams. It's not like the Brady was putting up sick numbers in all these games, he often just didn't make the big mistake and came through when it mattered.

Anyway one thing that was cool about watching the Colts/Bears superbowl replay was hearing the commentary on how amazing the turnaround of the Colts defense was. They were the worst team in the league against the run that year and they got Bob Sanders back and all of a sudden their defense was basically lights out int he playoffs. The fact that Manning was producing 12 wins year in year out in the earlier part of the decade with literally one of the worst defenses in the leagues is still amazing to me, and I don't think there is anyone else who would have the Colts in serious contention every single year like he has.

lol


USA TODAY NFL All-Decade Team
Quarterbacks
#1: Tom Brady (45 votes)
A sixth round pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, Brady burst into the spotlight following an injury to then-starter Drew Bledsoe and led the Patriots to three Super Bowl victories. He made the Pro Bowl in 2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, and 2009, and was named the league MVP in 2007.


USA TODAY NFL All-Decade Team
Quarterbacks
#2: Peyton Manning (44 votes)
Shown here during the Colts' victory in Super Bowl XLI, Manning was named the NFL MVP four times during the decade, earning 10 Pro Bowl selections from 1999 to 2009.

For the decade, Peyton Manning had 11,410 more yards and 89 more TDs than Brady.
That is 3 pro-bowl seasons worth of production.

Brady didn't play two of those seasons.

So what? Its an all decade team, playing matters.

Of course playing matters. But saying he had three seasons worth of production more than Brady is a little misleading since he played nearly two seasons more than Brady during the decade (31 more games).

its not misleading, its an argument in mannings favor

But it's an all-decade team

exactly

lol love the justification for Brady is that he made the pro bow like 5 times and won the MVP once then immediately after it says Manning was a 4x MVP and 10 time pro bowler for the decade. Ridiculous.

Neither did Johnny Unitas, which is why he only got 3rd.

Can anyone honestly say that if they could draft either at the start of their respective careers that anyone would take Brady over Payton.

This is Payton were talking about here, not Eli right?

Brady is still the GOAT.

BWAHAHAHA

Eli Manning is the GOAT. He's undefeated in super bowls and he's the clutchest QB in the league, the stats back it up.

is the cluthest always the Goat?

Eli is clutch which is an important quality just like it was for Paul Molitor and Tony Fernandez two of the great clutch baseball players of all time. But that doesn't make either the goat in baseball. Why would it be true for Eli in football?