Jags releasing Allen Hurns. Seems a little spiteful to hold off releasing him til today given they signed the other two wideouts a week ago

Yessssssss

Ryan Grant is going to the Colts now. Dunno, compensation, but will be interesting to see how it compares to the Ravens deal.

The Raiders signed the Cowboys FB Keith Smith, then traded their FB Jamize Olawale & a 6th for the Cowboys 5th. This would be much more interesting if not for lol FBs.

Steelers signing S Morgan Burnett from the Packers. Burnett was 2 years away from qualifying for nath's question (2010 3rd rounder for Packers).

Jaguars releasing Allen Hurns. Frees up $7m of cap, no dead $$$. Robinson + Hurns = $21m. Lee + Moncrief = $19m. We shall see.

Moncrief signing was reported a week ago, but wasn't official until yesterday, & involved more $$$ & more guarantees. Might not have actually been a done deal until yesterday, which would explain why they held off on cutting Hurns.

lol, I looked it up, too. Wow.

I follow a ton of nfl and never heard of this guy despite him playing on a really popular team. Let me ask my friend, a fan of the team if he knows the guy. I don’t play madden as much as I used to but even then this would be rough to pick for me without looking it up

He should be better known - he's averaged 46 yards per catch for his career.

More hints in spoiler that would give it away to people who have heard of the guy probably.

What is a Jarius Wright? Is there any QB who had worse receivers over the course of his career than Cam?

Vikings 4th or 5th WR iirc.

The new Ryan Grant contract with the Colts is 1/$5m...

Also, I just posted this in the QB carousel thread, but I thought the TBridge incentives were kind of interesting. He's getting 1/$6m ($5m base, $500k signing, $500k workout), with the following incentives:

So if he played every game & threw for at least 3k yards & at least 21 touchdowns, he would earn $14m. We'll ignore the last $2.5m because lol Jets making the playoffs.

russell shepard and charles johnson were so successful it makes sense to go back to the WR5 well

Brady

Teddy contract pretty sad how bad it is. Only 1M guaranteed if they want to cut him during camp. They have McCown + rookie QB. So he needs to beat out Hack and Petty. Probably will but if the rookies doing well they might decide to save the 5M and cut him. Injury cost him 100M.

I know the questions specifically asked about receivers, but to not include Rbs and TEs from this question seems wrong. Gronk, randy moss, welker, edelman, dion branch (sure I'm missing an obvious one) and a **** load of talented pass catching RBs don't seem bad. Steve Smith & Olsen are a pretty sick duo and it seems like cam had them forever.

If we look at total talent on both sides of the ball plus coaching staff obviously it is Godgers who has done the most with the least.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8912d707acf0

To be fair, Brees creates new star receivers most years. Thomas is a stud and Cooks was vg but before that it was mainly scrubs and #2 types plus Colston who was barely drafted and Graham who had hardly played before the pros

I think those guys are damn good recievers but idk how many people are lining up to pick Welker, Edelmon, Branch, Amendola and Brown. He only played with Moss 2 years, and I think Gronk has only finished 5 years. Gronk wasn't even part of the Superbowl vs Atl.

The mystery man in nath's trivia question got re-signed by his current team for 2 years today.

I hope he got paid well. I admire the Pats for doing it but also hate them that they get guys back on the cheap. Even tho he ended up getting injured, Edelman's deal last OS made me particularly sad

Patriots tend to pay their special teams players more than other teams as they emphasize it more & tend to keep a balanced cap to ensure a deeper roster (Brady on discount is a huge part of that obviously).

Another thing the Patriots do better than most teams who are up against the cap on a consistent basis is limit dead money year in & year out. Dead money is money you are spending on people to not play on your team, & which you can't roll over.

I thought this chart on Spotrac was kind of interesting:

RANK	TEAM	SIGNED	AVG AGE	ACTIVE	DEAD	ADJUSTMENTS	TOP 51 CAP	TOP 51 CAP SPACE	CAP SPACE (W/ALL)
1	Buffalo Bills	68	26.37	$136,673,782	$35,921,120	$11,583,459	$167,164,902	$21,618,557	$16,188,557
2	Arizona Cardinals	60	26.33	$147,992,811	$17,034,814	$1,601,786	$162,627,625	$16,174,161	$13,774,161
3	Kansas City Chiefs	69	25.46	$159,534,009	$16,644,158	$2,600,000	$168,048,167	$11,751,833	$3,621,833
4	San Francisco 49ers	71	25.34	$181,167,366	$15,529,233	$56,048,430	$186,751,599	$46,496,831	$36,551,831
5	Dallas Cowboys	58	25.19	$165,273,613	$14,774,079	$7,874,774	$177,167,692	$7,907,082	$5,027,082
6	Cleveland Browns	73	24.89	$162,640,036	$14,268,719	$58,912,960	$165,373,755	$70,739,205	$59,204,205
7	Seattle Seahawks	55	25.47	$147,441,095	$13,903,196	$547,270	$160,864,291	$16,882,979	$16,402,979
8	New York Jets	75	25.39	$145,121,104	$12,132,668	$17,321,900	$148,418,772	$46,103,128	$37,268,128
9	Chicago Bears	60	25.34	$135,532,059	$11,192,047	$7,608,858	$144,804,106	$40,004,752	$38,084,752
10	New Orleans Saints	74	25.88	$170,322,583	$11,040,306	$287,065	$170,127,889	$7,359,176	($3,875,824)
11	Baltimore Ravens	63	25.83	$168,403,861	$9,100,000	$3,275,117	$171,218,861	$9,256,256	$2,971,256
12	Green Bay Packers	58	25.05	$159,465,588	$8,022,733	$3,934,518	$164,128,321	$17,006,197	$13,646,197
LEAGUE AVERAGE					$7,993,544
13	Philadelphia Eagles	66	25.55	$172,869,891	$7,892,554	$514,409	$173,487,445	$4,226,964	($3,048,036)
14	Los Angeles Rams	62	25.29	$142,407,817	$7,764,388	$4,314,494	$146,332,205	$35,182,289	$31,342,289
15	Carolina Panthers	65	26.14	$169,532,708	$7,023,075	$4,400,316	$170,795,783	$10,804,533	$5,044,533
16	Detroit Lions	67	25.61	$162,529,565	$6,378,790	$4,151,311	$162,368,355	$18,982,956	$12,442,956
17	Pittsburgh Steelers	63	25.84	$172,009,178	$5,100,250	$4,041,060	$172,309,428	$8,931,632	$4,131,632
18	Miami Dolphins	64	25.69	$160,547,035	$4,881,020	$69,161	$160,478,055	$16,791,106	$11,841,106
19	Atlanta Falcons	54	26.33	$166,461,817	$4,857,983	$1,121,399	$170,359,800	$7,961,599	$7,001,599
20	Los Angeles Chargers	63	25.53	$165,518,200	$4,699,432	$2,622,050	$165,342,632	$14,479,418	$9,604,418
21	Jacksonville Jaguars	69	25.41	$202,371,910	$4,191,797	$27,768,739	$197,173,707	$7,795,032	($1,594,968)
22	New York Giants	76	25.7	$179,261,401	$3,430,140	$365,321	$172,161,541	$5,403,780	($5,126,220)
23	New England Patriots	68	26.18	$174,349,126	$3,407,081	$3,012,602	$169,401,207	$10,811,395	$2,456,395
24	Tennessee Titans	58	25.97	$162,041,859	$3,044,721	$30,339,319	$162,206,580	$45,332,739	$42,452,739
25	Minnesota Vikings	58	25.36	$160,638,897	$2,776,445	$13,729,203	$161,015,342	$29,913,861	$27,513,861
26	Denver Broncos	67	25.57	$166,958,289	$2,379,107	$10,208,201	$162,242,396	$25,165,805	$18,070,805
27	Oakland Raiders	72	25.9	$164,631,030	$1,961,891	$7,626,880	$161,312,921	$23,513,959	$18,233,959
28	Indianapolis Colts	74	25.08	$127,680,077	$1,779,425	$16,837,503	$119,034,502	$75,003,001	$64,578,001
29	Houston Texans	75	25.38	$164,773,867	$1,592,368	$9,949,209	$155,474,485	$31,674,724	$19,179,724
30	Cincinnati Bengals	70	25.29	$178,337,385	$1,296,881	$11,583,459	$169,914,266	$18,869,193	$9,149,193
31	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	66	25.58	$155,982,677	$951,165	$15,195,668	$150,618,842	$41,776,826	$35,461,826
32	Washington Redskins	75	25.82	$168,734,218	$821,818	$1,484,362	$157,766,036	$20,918,326	$9,128,326

It's going to be super hard for the Bills to compete this year with almost $36m tied up in players who aren't on the team. It seems far more likely they'll be able to make noise next year once their numerous draft picks (or QB they trade up for) get acclimated, & they have a lot more $$$ to spend on players who are actually on their team.

Just got around to looking this guess up. He was drafted one year earlier, eleven years with Philly until just cut.

Turns out I'm wrong & the Patriots carry more dead $$$ than I thought in certain years.

2018 #s are obviously lower because year not finished, but here are the last 5 years of dead $$$ hits on 1 chart...

RANK	TEAM	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	Total
1	Buffalo Bills	$27,015,831	$13,643,764	$18,773,045	$28,929,576	$35,921,120	$124,283,336
2	Cleveland Browns	$20,616,725	$7,054,744	$35,204,018	$46,236,097	$14,268,719	$123,380,303
3	Seattle Seahawks	$17,968,453	$19,635,133	$12,127,985	$39,260,349	$15,529,233	$104,521,153
4	Dallas Cowboys	$27,564,132	$19,218,914	$3,235,487	$26,658,546	$14,774,079	$91,451,158
5	Baltimore Ravens	$14,865,768	$24,009,341	$15,341,537	$21,993,528	$9,100,000	$85,310,174
6	Chicago Bears	$18,280,371	$29,022,282	$12,797,351	$13,159,831	$11,192,047	$84,451,882
7	Miami Dolphins	$8,367,964	$30,559,418	$21,365,306	$18,816,665	$4,699,432	$83,808,785
8	New Orleans Saints	$16,327,000	$34,188,706	$17,529,572	$11,934,841	$2,776,445	$82,756,564
9	New York Giants	$12,642,349	$15,599,806	$42,124,429	$7,226,565	$3,407,081	$81,000,230
10	New York Jets	$19,245,928	$8,255,570	$15,250,316	$25,613,267	$11,040,306	$79,405,387
11	Kansas City Chiefs	$9,407,748	$21,535,333	$14,174,760	$16,051,403	$16,644,158	$77,813,402
12	Carolina Panthers	$27,093,734	$15,374,865	$13,186,584	$12,130,270	$7,023,075	$74,808,528
13	Atlanta Falcons	$11,065,205	$22,469,541	$26,026,281	$8,459,139	$4,857,983	$72,878,149
14	San Diego Chargers	$16,440,510	$16,995,532	$11,726,970	$19,582,640	$7,892,554	$72,638,206
15	Detroit Lions	$9,379,143	$21,236,686	$24,654,669	$10,914,815	$6,378,790	$72,564,103
16	Philadelphia Eagles	$10,190,533	$19,396,358	$9,198,592	$20,760,257	$12,132,668	$71,678,408
17	New England Patriots	$18,665,581	$19,484,524	$7,538,635	$19,985,967	$4,881,020	$70,555,727
18	San Francisco 49ers	$10,210,497	$29,094,100	$13,365,371	$11,737,037	$5,100,250	$69,507,255
19	Indianapolis Colts	$5,902,931	$14,263,153	$17,189,353	$27,574,758	$1,779,425	$66,709,620
20	Arizona Cardinals	$15,708,766	$12,809,409	$13,722,653	$7,382,798	$17,034,814	$66,658,440
21	Oakland Raiders	$17,835,002	$16,688,813	$16,874,389	$10,080,895	$3,430,140	$64,909,239
22	Pittsburgh Steelers	$13,435,466	$20,143,726	$24,179,418	$4,376,341	$1,961,891	$64,096,842
23	Houston Texans	$20,990,794	$17,423,845	$8,653,110	$13,806,954	$1,592,368	$62,467,071
24	Tennessee Titans	$12,688,893	$17,866,172	$18,508,957	$8,068,695	$3,044,721	$60,177,438
25	Washington Redskins	$16,633,031	$13,087,081	$16,723,788	$12,576,755	$821,818	$59,842,473
26	St. Louis Rams	$8,402,953	$11,478,046	$14,163,211	$7,356,310	$13,903,196	$55,303,716
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$13,814,575	$25,305,733	$6,310,844	$7,223,802	$951,165	$53,606,119
28	Minnesota Vikings	$8,766,804	$9,150,229	$17,521,239	$10,001,580	$7,764,388	$53,204,240
29	Jacksonville Jaguars	$18,165,907	$9,582,465	$5,108,643	$11,295,119	$4,191,797	$48,343,931
30	Denver Broncos	$9,483,329	$6,148,288	$15,138,349	$5,457,705	$2,379,107	$38,606,778
31	Green Bay Packers	$5,477,890	$5,436,397	$4,663,529	$11,910,622	$8,022,733	$35,511,171
32	Cincinnati Bengals	$5,142,081	$4,848,065	$3,968,637	$4,148,865	$1,296,881	$19,404,529

But yeah, in the last 5 years, the Bills have paid almost $25m per year on players not playing on their team, while the Bengals have paid under $4m per year on players not playing on their team.

Does Aaron hernandez bring the dead money total up a lot or was his cap hit gone before then?

of course the Bengals are the lowest. Can waste money if you don't spend it