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03-18-2018 , 03:51 PM
ya i'll go with the Lol Jets option
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03-18-2018 , 04:08 PM
I mean if the jets rate Rosen Allen darnold and mayfield roughly the same and would give anything to get one of them then fine, putting yourself in position to ensure you grab one of them even at a theoretical overpay is fine. Who gives a **** about pick value if you land the franchise (see: Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes)

Problem is it’s the jets. And lol jets is never the wrong answer
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03-18-2018 , 04:13 PM
They gave up 3 2nds to guarantee they land 1 out of 4 when it was more than likely 1 out of 4 was going to be available at 6. They are a team with a bunch of holes and gave stupid 1 year deals to 2 QBs basically locking in whoever they drafted to be the 2019 week 1 starter and they gave up valuable assets they could have otherwise used to build up that ****ty team
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03-18-2018 , 04:20 PM
Thayer is right

If the Jets take Josh Allen, then we can heartily lol at them until the cows come home
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03-18-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Thayer is right

If the Jets take Josh Allen, then we can heartily lol at them until the cows come home
Isn’t that kinda the point? They’re not trading for a specific target, they’re trading for what’s left out of a range. And if the likeliest player left out of that range is Allen, whose drafting you would agree would make this a bad trade, then this was a bad trade
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03-18-2018 , 04:36 PM
Maybe the Jets tried to trade with the NYG and the Giants like where they are, if that's the case #3 is as good as #2 if the Giants really don't want a QB.
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03-18-2018 , 04:38 PM
Maybe. Or maybe they’re holding out for buffalo
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03-18-2018 , 04:38 PM
The Jets got FOMO'd into doing it now vs. Draft Day because of the Bills plain and simple. If the Bills were the ones moving to 3 you legit could see Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Mayfield all be gone by the time the Jets picked 6th. Which if that happened Maccagnan and Bowles should just pack up and GTFO of town before next season starts.

You can't tank the 2017 season properly, can't get Cousins, Can't draft a QB, Hackenberg and Petty are still on the roster, and you were 5-11 the last two seasons with no playoff apperances in the three seasons they have been with the Jets. Its lol but only lower case because when you add all of that up they had no choice but to trade up.
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03-18-2018 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Isn’t that kinda the point? They’re not trading for a specific target, they’re trading for what’s left out of a range. And if the likeliest player left out of that range is Allen, whose drafting you would agree would make this a bad trade, then this was a bad trade
Except that we don't know how they value Allen and that they are also guaranteed to be able to take one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield
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03-18-2018 , 04:44 PM
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Maybe the Jets tried to trade with the NYG and the Giants like where they are, if that's the case #3 is as good as #2 if the Giants really don't want a QB.
The Giants will never trade with the Jets under any circumstances. The NY media would eat the loser of said trade alive feeding the mouthbreathers of that fanbase to run that regime out of town for setting the franchise back.

As far as the Giants goes if the Bills arent giving up their 1st and 2nd rounders Gettleman shouldn't even pick up the phone. Thats probably how much they like their position at the moment.
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03-18-2018 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Maybe the Jets tried to trade with the NYG and the Giants like where they are, if that's the case #3 is as good as #2 if the Giants really don't want a QB.
They just passed on 3 high 2nds to move down 4 spots...for a non-QB? No. Giants are taking a QB.
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03-18-2018 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkRockHec
The Giants will never trade with the Jets under any circumstances. The NY media would eat the loser of said trade alive feeding the mouthbreathers of that fanbase to run that regime out of town for setting the franchise back.

As far as the Giants goes if the Bills arent giving up their 1st and 2nd rounders Gettleman shouldn't even pick up the phone. Thats probably how much they like their position at the moment.
Should take the two first-rounders plus

I expect now the first three picks will be QBs (I also don't expect the Giants to trade down but who the hell knows)
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03-18-2018 , 05:03 PM
Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield & then whoever wants to overpay for Josh Allen the most can trade up & draft him 4th.
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03-18-2018 , 05:17 PM
my Mayfield o5.5 prop looking pretty baaaaad right now
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03-18-2018 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Should take the two first-rounders plus

I expect now the first three picks will be QBs (I also don't expect the Giants to trade down but who the hell knows)
I see the merit in trading down but if they do decide to YOLO it up with Eli for a 2 yr window they probably should extend OBJ while they are it and completely go for broke. He should know nothing motivates better than some green.

On the other hand picking Darnold/Rosen at 2 has to be the way to go but it would be tough turning down two firsts and two seconds.
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03-18-2018 , 07:03 PM
Is there a consensus on where Lamar Jackson is likely to go off the board?

I hardly ever seem him discussed with the big 4 of Allen, Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold. Did he do terrible at the combine?
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03-18-2018 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I mean if the jets rate Rosen Allen darnold and mayfield roughly the same and would give anything to get one of them then fine, putting yourself in position to ensure you grab one of them even at a theoretical overpay is fine. Who gives a **** about pick value if you land the franchise (see: Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes)

Problem is it’s the jets. And lol jets is never the wrong answer
You lost me at the end there. Let's give him a few more games before we crown his ass.
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03-18-2018 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I mean if the jets rate Rosen Allen darnold and mayfield roughly the same and would give anything to get one of them then fine, putting yourself in position to ensure you grab one of them even at a theoretical overpay is fine. Who gives a **** about pick value if you land the franchise (see: Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes)

Problem is it’s the jets. And lol jets is never the wrong answer
ya i mean signing McCown for 10, Teddy for 6x1, trading up to #3 to draft ... somebody ... seems way more like #YOLOing **** at the wall than "we have a very well thought out plan" here
(beyond "there are 3 guys we like, and we don't really care which one we get"*)

even if it wasn't the Jets

but especially given that it is the Jets


* - and ofc they'll say whoever they get is the one they wanted all along, no matter what, and there'll be no way to know if that's true or Lol Jets

and if that guy fails, the narrative is "Loooooooool Jets!!!"
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03-18-2018 , 08:04 PM
anyway, hopefully the Bills trade up to 6 and take Allen now
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03-18-2018 , 08:22 PM
Cordarelle Patterson traded from Raiders to Patriots with a 6th for a 5th.
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03-18-2018 , 08:29 PM
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anyway, hopefully the Bills trade up to 6 and take Allen now


That will be fantastic.
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03-18-2018 , 08:43 PM
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Cordarelle Patterson traded from Raiders to Patriots with a 6th for a 5th.
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That will be fantastic.
Uh, screw you both, they are not trading up just to take Allen!
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03-18-2018 , 08:48 PM
Eagles get Carson Wentz, one super bowl ring

Browns ended up with
WR Corey Coleman
OT Shon Coleman
QB Cody Kessler
WR Ricardo Louis
S Derrick Kindred
WR Jordan Payton
OG/OT Spencer Drango
QB DeShone Kizer--traded for Demarious Randall and swapped picks

The 64th pick in the 2018 draft

Browns trade Deshaun Watson
got
S Jabrill Peppers
The 4th pick in the 2018 draft

what would you rather have right now? Eagles/Texans won those trades and it's not close.
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03-18-2018 , 08:49 PM
That's not results oriented at all
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03-18-2018 , 08:52 PM
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Uh, screw you both, they are not trading up just to take Allen!


I hope for your sake they’re not. Maybe Denver will donk him as Elway has been horrific at qb selections.
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