IIRC, SUB is a Giants fan, and he has them taking Brian Price in the first. Price has generated a lot of buzz lately, but some of that might be based on him being able to wail on weaker offensive lines of the PAC 10 (playing UW, WSU, ASU, SDSU, Temple, and KSU, all ranked 69th or lower in FO's rankings can make any decent defenseman look good).

People high on Price might want to take a look at John Morgan's detailed scouting report over at Field Gulls. It's a Seahawks blog, so it's probably not frequented by many people here, but he does a pretty good write up, looking at Price's performance on every play in the UCLA vs UW game. Price was strongly on the Seahawks fans' radar once he declared, as he went to the same high school as and was mentored by our beloved Mebane, and a pair of Mebanes at DT is a delightful prospect for any Seahawks fan. Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.

I guess it's an open question how susceptible scouts and GMs are to stats and hype and measureables vs. tape, and we'll have to see how he performs in Combine drills. However, I've got to say John makes a pretty good case that the Seahawks should look elsewhere at #14, and the Giants should probably do the same at #15.

I'd prefer we go elsewhere in the first round. Injuries were a big reason we had struggles at DT. I don't think we need to invest a first round pick at that position.

I think if we don't go with Brian Price, we'll pick a safety like Earl Thomas. Phillips is still recovering from a serious injury and the rest of our safeties suck. However, something rubs me the wrong way about picking first round safeties in two of our last three drafts.

Walter Football's latest mock has the Redskins taking zero offensive linemen with our first two picks (#4 and #37). That sucks, but I don't think he's right, b/c the new management must see that glaring hole just like everyone else does. And they must be wanting to do something about it in this draft. I can see going BPA in the first round but the second round pick MUST be an OL if the first pick isn't.

But who? It's not like there are all that many good options available then. The next tackle taken after the Redskins' second rounder in that mock is at #58. After him, #76. You can't expect that plugging a decent but uninspiring college RT into an NFL LT position is going to right the ship overnight. I guess maybe if the Redskins are a zone blocking team (I don't know) and are looking for the fast, undersized guys that other teams pass on, but enough teams are running zone blocking schemes that such guys don't grow on trees anymore either.

If you're going to reach for a #58 or #76 OT at #37, you might consider just waiting for #100 to take the 3rd OT taken after #37, where that same mock has the Skins actually taking an OT.

The 'Skins might put a first/third round tender on Campbell. Doesn't guarantee that they'll take an OT. Just might be there to give Bradford a year to learn a pro-style offense. If they actually do that, I might bump him up to possibly not a bust.

Drew Brees went a similar route (gimmick college offense, redshirt first season in NFL, success). Not saying Bradford is a lock to have such success. Just saying that it's a similar path.

I'll defer to ppl who watch more NFL than me about NFL team needs, but I'm not totally sold that the Skins will draft a qb. Shanahan was able to get decent production out of a relatively broken product with Plummer (prior to drafting Cutler obv), and he seems like one of those guys who would try to get something out of an athlete like Campbell first.

Also, thoughts on the Chargers? I know they have to resign some ppl. Are they going rb + Merriman replacement? I always enjoy watching stacked teams like this add pieces.

Can we please stop calling any non pure Pro Style offense gimmicky? It's so arbitrary.

Yeah, Chargers need help all over on defense though.

Larry English was supposed to be Merriman's replacement. I haven't seen English play. So, I don't know if he's going to be anything good.

SUB could you give me a list of the 3 or 4 most likely choices for the Lions @ 34?

That seems like it's something that's hard to do for the Lions. They are known to pick the most talented player on their board that's left, disregarding positional value and need. The Combine is going to shake up evaluations enough that the #30-#34th most talented players on the Lions' board could very likely consist of 5 new names in two weeks.

Discussing this stuff before the combine seems sort of pointless, altho it is fun nonetheless. I expect draft boards to change significantly in two weeks b/c it seems like they always get shaken up after the combine.

Naturally, but it's still easier to speculate about some teams than others. Like, many mocks I've seen that extend into the second round have the Seahawks taking a running back there. That's entirely plausible, and whether that RB will end up being Dwyer or Matthews or Best or even Spiller after a poor combine is anybody's guess, but #40 is an attractive spot to grab the best available RB. When a team has a need or needs it may be putting some importance on filling, it's easier to speculate about who the best one or two guys available at those positions will be than it is who the best few guys available at any position are.

What Wookie said, but I'll try anyway.

I have a hypothetical second round, but I won't release a 2 round mock until the day before the draft. I have the Lions picking Brandon Ghee, a cornerback from Wake Forest. Other possibilities:

Charles Brown, OT, USC
Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan

Graham hinges upon if he's good for a 4-3 DE in the NFL. If he is, he might not make it out of the first round.

A ton of mocks (including Kiper's current one) has Graham going to the Patriots. If teams determine he's a 3-4 OLB only (which is dumb), a 3-4 team would be dumb not to take a late first round pick on a 3-4 OLB who is elite in both pass rushing and run stopping.

I could see the Cardinals picking Graham.

However, I don't think Belichick is willing to make a risky pick like 3-4 pass rushing OLBs. They're too much boom/bust for him. I think Jared Odrick would be a great fit as a 3-4 DE for them though.

Phildo said it earlier, there's no basis to believe that 3-4 OLB is any more "boom or bust" than any other position.

Haters gonna hate

The Jets are going to take Ghee. Mark it down.

if they decide to cut gholston id love to see the jets take graham

ya cause michigan > ohio state amirite?

fwiw, thats fine with me. im not gonna pore over walterfootball or kiper or mcshay or whatever other draft sites are out there so im fine with spoonfed a recap, even if its plagiarized.

Think Gholston might scare them off from taking another 3-4 rush linebacker in the first round?

Why would they be afraid to draft a position where they recently failed to fill?

i sure hope not, and i think we have a pretty solid gm in tannenbaum. the failure of a past player should have nothing to do with their assessment of another