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02-14-2019 , 01:52 AM
You can tell Layman is really getting under Draymond's skin
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02-14-2019 , 01:54 AM
LOL Kerr!
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02-14-2019 , 01:55 AM
LMAO Kerr, be more insufferable
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02-14-2019 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
when the nugs season ends, we can look back at today as the beginning of the end

Update, 13 minutes, 8 points on 5 shots, 2 assists and 2 turnovers, +2. He came in as Denver was roaring back from a 17 point deficit and scored 8 straight points, the first three being the go-ahead...

Still not sure I love it though, he said he was about to fight someone for not being in on the last possession... slow down their cowboy.

Last edited by Seadood228; 02-14-2019 at 02:53 AM.
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02-14-2019 , 03:10 AM
Western conference offenses seem way too good for him to get more than 7 minutes a game in the playoffs.
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02-14-2019 , 04:29 AM
If you hate IT2 you are bad at life
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02-14-2019 , 04:34 AM
The hero we deserve.

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02-14-2019 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
With the obvious caveat that it's the NBA regular season, the Pacers play the Bucks tonight. Not that anyone expects the Noladipo Pacers to beat any of MIL/TOR/PHI/BOS but if they at least compete against the Bucks it would be nice.

(Please no one quote this and write "Narrator voice: They didn't" when we lose 126-98. Thanks)
Pacers had a 10 point lead in the 4th and actually competed. Can't complain with that.

Also, Giannis is from another planet. That is all.
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02-14-2019 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
gotdamn I didn't realize the losing streaks that were in progress. Knicks have lost 18 in a row and Suns have lost 14 in a row, about to be 15.
THEY BE

NOT TRYIN

FOR ZION!

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March 6th, Knicks @ Suns.

Suns could have 21 game losing streak and Knicks could have 25 coming into the game. EPIC

Knicks best chance to snap streak Feb 28th vs. Cavs
Suns best chance to snap streak Feb 21st at Cavs
Knicks could literally lose every remaining game this season.

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The hero we deserve.

NBA: Where Amazing Happens

+750 TZ Points
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02-14-2019 , 08:48 AM
**** you hoe
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02-14-2019 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
gotdamn I didn't realize the losing streaks that were in progress. Knicks have lost 18 in a row and Suns have lost 14 in a row, about to be 15.
Zion definitely going to Elway or Eli it.
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02-14-2019 , 09:38 AM
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The hero we deserve.

My only issue with this, is that Klay Thompson is the only likeable warrior. If he would of done it to Durant or day day, Collins would of elevated himself into my top 5 favorite players.
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02-14-2019 , 12:09 PM
Steve Kerr Hold Me Back . jif has me very aroused.

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02-14-2019 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
THEY BE

NOT TRYIN

FOR ZION!
If we had known how good Zion would be then there'd for sure be an 82 game losing streak this season.
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02-14-2019 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime
My only issue with this, is that Klay Thompson is the only likeable warrior. If he would of done it to Durant or day day, Collins would of elevated himself into my top 5 favorite players.
nah **** klay too
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02-14-2019 , 12:46 PM
Yeah klay a hoe
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02-14-2019 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
OKC is miles better than they were last year swapping Melo for Schroder and adding Noel. The other new pieces (Diallo, Burton, Nader) all show flashes in limited minutes, but Billy is still tinkering with the lineups nightly.

The massive change (other than PG deciding he’s a legit MVP candidate) has been the growth of Ferguson and Grant. Ferguson put up 11PPG on 50% FGP and 48 3P% with 5.5 attempts a game in January. His defense has been surprisingly solid and he is great in transition. Grant has become a consistent 3P shooter and pretty good weak side help D (think OKC Serge without the pick and pop mid range game).

Russ is 17th (!!!) in the league in FGA, which has to be a massive victory with how terrible he’s been shooting the ball (PG is 2nd). If he continues to defer to George, and can maintain his newfound defensive focus, I think they’re the only team in the West that could beat GS (they still won’t).

Playoff rotation looks something like:

Russ
Ferg
PG
Grant
Adams

Schroder
Noel
Pat Pat (washed)
One of Diallo / Nader / Burton / Roberson (not sure they want him back with the way the 1st unit is clicking).

Matchup wise, Dood probably puts way too much importance on a small sample size of 6 games that mostly includes Melo / different team completely. Denver has literally no one on the roster to stop Russ or PG from getting to the rim, and can’t out rebound OKC in a playoff series. I just don’t see how a young team with basically zero playoff experience goes from losing a play in game last year to making the WCF. Especially when the best player on the floor is George by a pretty massive margin.

With all due respect, throwing out past matchups and then saying arbitrary things like "can't out rebound OKC in a playoff series" doesn't seem to hold any water. Denver is the #8 in defensive rebounding and #1 in offensive rebounding. OKC #11 and #3 respectively. Also PG the best player by a WIDE margin? He's having by far his best year, some would say an outlier, and even then him and Joker are neck and neck in the advanced metrics, but unlike PG his numbers aren't tied to a shooting streak the likes that he's never experienced in his career. Jokic for as good as he's been, has actually shot poorly this year. I think PG13 has been the better player especially when factoring in positional scarcity, but it's been razor-thin.

Either way, why do you think you can dismiss this year's performance or even lasts? You bring up playoff experience, but all I saw last year was PG13 and Russ getting owned by guys with much less experience.

I mean ffs, if we are talking about this year only, here are the games:

Game 1 - Denver@OKC, Denver on a B2B missing TWO STARTERS, one of which went down the game prior, goes into their building and is behind for a grand total of 48 seconds by a whopping 2 points, has a largest lead of 25. OKC makes it close by cutting it to 5 late before Denver pulls away.

Game 2 - OKC@Denver, both teams rested, Denver missing THREE STARTERS, including their second and third best player, OKC this time only holds a 1 point lead for a whopping 15 seconds, and once again Denver goes up by double-digits, this time 13, OKC cuts it to 5 late and Denver pulls away... again

So even if we throw out last year, OKC has led by a grand total of 2 points for a little over a minute, while Denver led the other 95 minutes by as much 25 AND dominated them in the clutch, something they've done since Russ his "the shot". And this is with Denver missing by far more players, and less rested. 95>1 imo. 25 and 13 >2 and 1

Who knows what this means, but dismissing it and saying things that have literally never happened when they've played, or giving credence to Russ and Paul's ability to turn it up in the playoffs seems a bit rich, especially after the former got owned by a playoff rookie with a ponytail who can't shoot and the latter got owned by an plumber with man boobs.

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02-14-2019 , 01:30 PM
definitely a hoe
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02-14-2019 , 01:33 PM
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definitely a hoe
That’s One reason he’s great. He gets what a nba Star is suppose to do
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02-14-2019 , 01:48 PM
Zach Lowe just said PG has the highest on/off net rating in the league at something like +22.

We all know your man love for Jokic, but he’s not the caliber of player as PG. On top of the gaudy offensive #s, he’s the front runner for DPOY. I don’t believe Jokic will be contending for that one.

You seen really invested in a handful of games (arguing in favor of a small sample size in a Poker forum. Lul). I guess you have to hang your hat on something when your team hasn’t made the playoffs in 6 years.

If the Nuggets were a contender, you’d think they’d be better than .500 on the road. I’ve always maintained their homecourt advantage is tangibly the best in the league.
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02-14-2019 , 01:53 PM
Spoiler:
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02-14-2019 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Zach Lowe just said PG has the highest on/off net rating in the league at something like +22.

We all know your man love for Jokic, but he’s not the caliber of player as PG. On top of the gaudy offensive #s, he’s the front runner for DPOY. I don’t believe Jokic will be contending for that one.

You seen really invested in a handful of games (arguing in favor of a small sample size in a Poker forum. Lul). I guess you have to hang your hat on something when your team hasn’t made the playoffs in 6 years.

If the Nuggets were a contender, you’d think they’d be better than .500 on the road. I’ve always maintained their homecourt advantage is tangibly the best in the league.


His net rating per CTG is an absurd +23.4 - the Thunder play with the differential of a 67 win team when he’s on the court, and 14 win team when he’s off. Lol. Next guy after him is Danny Green at +15.8.

LeBron’s career high is +17.8 and Curry had a +21.3 during his GOAT regular season.
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02-14-2019 , 02:03 PM
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denver okc is a really interesting series on paper. nuggets play slow but have a sick offense and meh defense. okc plays fast and has a meh offense and sick defense.

nuggets need gary harris healthy and in form in the playoffs. their perimeter offense seems sketch despite their overall offensive efficiency, but i haven't watched them enough to comment otherwise.

okc's profile is pretty weird. their elite defense is mostly predicated on forcing tovs and rebounding. they are middling wrt opponent efg%, which is surprising, and is a red flag. granted the margins are pretty slim there as we are talking 1-2 % points between good and bad defenses. that's the nature of the game though. could also argue that if you can force tovs and still play decent shot defense, then if need be maybe you can play more conservative d and limit good shot opportunities.

interested in thoughts, esp from dood/jwax
I think the reason why Denver hasn't struggled with OKC as of late is probably one part intimidation and one part matchups. When OKC got PG13 coupled with Robs last year, they immediately became imo the most feared perimeter-defending tandem in the league. This has led to them turning teams over like mad and frustrating lead ball-handlers. This is great against most teams, however as we know Denver doesn't initiate their offense through their guards. By having your center do most of the initiating, these great perimeter defenders are now in a position to be help guys, and the problem with that (for OKC) is that helping off anyone when Joker has the ball can be problematic due to his passing.

OKC also switches a lot, and Denver is probably the best team at attacking switches because they have a fat-guy who either a) pummels you in the post while your big is out on the perimeter or b) uses his fat body to grab offensive rebounds like it's nothing.

The fact that OKC has a harder time generating turnovers also hurts their offense, they are just 18th in half-court efficiency. With the exception of PG13 and Adams on the boards, they seem relatively easy to defend as long as Russ isn't hitting jumpers.. I could see that changing if he gets his stroke back though.

Fast forward to 1:35 of the clip and you'll see three plays that illustrate what I was saying before. The first is a typical 1/5 switch. Monte has very little quicks but a pull-up 3 from him + the offensive rebounding advantage of having Joker on Schroeder is a big win. The last two are plays where just the slightest help onto Joker led to layups, both on the projected DPOY.



It's just speculation--maybe OKC beats Denver in a couple weeks and everything changes. But as of now I don't think their strengths hurt nor does OKC have the personnel to explot Denver's weaknesses.

Now if we want to talk about a team like Houston...
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02-14-2019 , 02:13 PM
And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up their road record. They had the exact same road record as OKC a week ago, but dropped 3 in a row missing 60% of their starting lineup. Do you really think OKC would have the same number of road wins if they were missing their second and third best player for most of the year?
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02-14-2019 , 02:18 PM
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His net rating per CTG is an absurd +23.4 - the Thunder play with the differential of a 67 win team when he’s on the court, and 14 win team when he’s off. Lol. Next guy after him is Danny Green at +15.8.

LeBron’s career high is +17.8 and Curry had a +21.3 during his GOAT regular season.
Yeah this is absurd, and PG13 has been absurd this year. He has had a tendency to fade late in the year though. Either he is having the greatest 9th year jump in history, or this is an outlier year. His WS48 has never been higher than .178, this year .235... PER previous high was 20.9, this year 25.2.

No player has ever had a season-long jump like that, would you bet on him maintaining that level over the course the next few years? it reminds me of TMac's 2002/3 season in a lot of ways, everything is just clicking for him.
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