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11-01-2014 , 05:00 PM

#1201

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

Even if the Cavs sets had been "vanilla", what's the big deal? it's been two games. if you thought that after two games Blatt's full coaching repertoire would have been on display you were always going to be massively letdown.

I don't understand why anyone thinks you can have some incredible offense running smoothly with major, major pieces that have never played in a real game together, after training camp and preseason. In the first two games. It's not doable.

11-01-2014 , 05:09 PM

#1202

GimmeDat

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marion is about as done as someone can be. pretty sure every shot he's chucked up this year has missed the rim.

also his days of being an elite defender are over

11-01-2014 , 05:13 PM

#1203

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcolin

i'm not buying the clips as contenders. Just throwing that out there. before taking a nap I had some keen insight as to why, but I can't recall it. But I trust it was correct.

The only reason to think this as far as I can tell is if you think Chris Paul has declined quite a bit. Right? If not, do tell.

11-01-2014 , 05:16 PM

#1204

Wooders0n

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

Dellavedova's also only played 48 total minutes this year. that super low usage is probably an abberation of SSS (although it's still going to be low, i doubt it stays that low).

It will have to go up, but it's not likely to go up enough to make him a better fit than Waiters in their best lineup.

I mostly think he's just shook from playing with 3 stars and probably doesn't want to piss off douchebags Kyrie and Kfraud. LeBron needs to tell him to let loose

11-01-2014 , 05:17 PM

#1205

THAY3R

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Non zero chance Blake has officially improved at all or most of the things he's been criticized for in the past + a healthy CP3 = Contender

11-01-2014 , 05:21 PM

#1206

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GimmeDat

marion is about as done as someone can be. pretty sure every shot he's chucked up this year has missed the rim.

also his days of being an elite defender are over

That may be true, but it doesn't matter. Cleveland has to give more minutes to the bench (even if it is terrible). A lot more. That or lobby for a rule change next week to make each quarter 8 minutes long.

11-01-2014 , 05:32 PM

#1207

vixticator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THAY3R

Non zero chance Blake has officially improved at all or most of the things he's been criticized for in the past + a healthy CP3 = Contender

He already did that. Griffin played extremely well against good teams all of last season, even without Chris Paul. The next step is if he can be a top 3 or so player. That's the next step, not if he can prove critics wrong.

11-01-2014 , 05:33 PM

#1208

FlyWf

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Blake's allegedly improved jumper is a very big deal, if he can Bosh it up even a little and hold people in the corner that's very bad news for the guy guarding CP3

11-01-2014 , 05:36 PM

#1209

Wooders0n

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Blake's jumper isn't even new. He was a top player last year and is again. They're obvious contenders as long as they can dodge a healthy okc

11-01-2014 , 05:38 PM

#1210

THAY3R

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If he can get that jumper down he will obviously be elite, but he also still has to play BIG enough

11-01-2014 , 05:40 PM

#1211

FlyWf

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I get that their bench is bad, but I'd say they are WC #1 seed favorites right now. Everybody has flaws, not every has arguable the best player at two positions.

11-01-2014 , 05:45 PM

#1212

THAY3R

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Blake's jumper isn't even new. He was a top player last year and is again. They're obvious contenders as long as they can dodge a healthy okc

He was very bad at catch and shoot and pull up jumpers last year

11-01-2014 , 05:48 PM

#1213

wiper

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Quote:

Originally Posted by THAKID

Waiters should come off the bench while playing starter minutes

Mike miller or Shawn Marion to start depending on opposing matchup and how much u want lebron to go hard or relax on D

agreed, but he's def whined about coming off the bench before. maybe the vets can talk him into it

11-01-2014 , 05:49 PM

#1214

Nicholasp27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I get that their bench is bad, but I'd say they are WC #1 seed favorites right now. Everybody has flaws, not every has arguable the best player at two positions.

If by WC you mean (WC other than Spurs) then yeah

11-01-2014 , 05:50 PM

#1215

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I get that their bench is bad, but I'd say they are WC #1 seed favorites right now. Everybody has flaws, not every has arguable the best player at two positions.

Uh, I didn't have a stroke halfway through this post. Jesus Christ, me, it's not even 6pm

11-01-2014 , 05:53 PM

#1216

Wooders0n

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Originally Posted by THAY3R

He was very bad at catch and shoot and pull up jumpers last year

If he can hit a pull up jumper constantly that would be pretty insane. Catch and shoot situations are gonna make up such a small percentage of what makes him so valuable I wouldn't worry about it.

Hard to catch and shoot when you're double all the time because you're almost as good offensively as prime Amare

11-01-2014 , 06:34 PM

#1217

iloveny161

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Hey TZ, is there a site that has data on box scores broken down by players over an entire season? I've only been able to find basketball reference's daily stats leaders, which are only 1 day at a time so to get an entire season's worth all into one excel spreadsheet would take quite a lot of time: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...y=31&year=2014
Thanks!

Edit: Never mind. Found nbastuffer.com

Last edited by iloveny161; 11-01-2014 at 06:48 PM.

11-01-2014 , 06:44 PM

#1218

THAKID

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wiper

agreed, but he's def whined about coming off the bench before. maybe the vets can talk him into it

What other needs does this team have
Trade him for some ideal fitting veterans ?
A prime 3and D guy ?

11-01-2014 , 06:52 PM

#1219

Schwallie

formerly TheProdigy

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 10,234

Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveny161

Don't you have to buy that? I couldn't find any, so I had to write a scraper for NBA.com

How much are they charging? It took me like 15 minutes to get all of the last years data into python/excel sheets, maybe I should get in that business.

11-01-2014 , 06:54 PM

#1220

Wooders0n

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Lol at Cavs trading for veterans. Might was well just bring Battiaids and rashard Lewis out of retirement because god forbid waiters misses some shots 2 games into the season

11-01-2014 , 06:58 PM

#1221

mcb33f

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do people count jumpers out of the triple threat as spotups?

11-01-2014 , 07:03 PM

#1222

kidcolin

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Originally Posted by vixticator

Yup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixticator

The only reason to think this as far as I can tell is if you think Chris Paul has declined quite a bit. Right? If not, do tell.

Well they've most the galvanizing force that was Donald Sterling. Now they just got some weirdo who expects the world of them.

Plus it looks like you can pencil in CDR for a lot of non-trivial minutes. Same to FFD when he gets back.

I think the rest of the league will gladly let Blake stand in the corner. So have fun with that.

Plus let's be real here.. They're still a bunch of whiny bitches.

11-01-2014 , 07:14 PM

#1223

Tilt-N-Spew

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Can anyone give me thoughts on which Bulls roster they think is better?

CURRENT
rose
jimmy buckets
dunleavy
pau
noah
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hinrich
aaron brooks
taj
mcbuckets
mirotic
snell

OTHER ROSTER (had they been able to sign lance stephenson)
rose
lance
thabo
taj
noah
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hinrich
brooks
mcbuckets
mirotic
shawn marion
snell