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05-22-2014 , 10:14 AM

#57576

wangpirate

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiki

Since someone posted that spurs vid in the FAQ, figure I'd ask my questions here.

When Duncan retires, ballpark where is he in the list of the best players ever? Give or take 5 spots.

Also is Duncan + Parker > Malone + Stockton?

at the top of that list, give or take 5 spots is huge. i think he's t10 for sure, just not exactly sure where in the t10.

and yes, they are > malone/stockton imo. not sure how popular that opinion is, though.

05-22-2014 , 10:15 AM

#57577

wangpirate

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

You're gonna have a sample issue if you're asking the same group of posters

i mean it's an open question to anyone. not just the same people who posted that.

not rly worried about sample size

05-22-2014 , 10:20 AM

#57578

DodgerIrish

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I was talking sampling bias, not sample size

and this question

Quote:

if we were to have a TZ fantasy draft w/ coaches included, where does pop go?

you already know the answer. It just takes one guy to draft him. So depending on who picks where - top 5 and apparently definitely a 1st round pick.

If you could guarantee he wouldn't retire anytime soon I'd prbly start thinking about it in round 3 maybe

05-22-2014 , 10:27 AM

#57579

wangpirate

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ah. ok.

yeah this is assuming something like a 5-10 year span and him not retiring. i'm probably right around the same range.

05-22-2014 , 10:30 AM

#57580

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Wait, 3rd round of how many picks? Pops clearly worth more than the 60th best NBA player.

05-22-2014 , 10:34 AM

#57581

wangpirate

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last time we did this he went 3rd round w/ 20 teams drafting. i belive he went late 3rd. like 50s i THINK. not 100% sure tho

05-22-2014 , 10:35 AM

#57582

DodgerIrish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chim17

Wait, 3rd round of how many picks? Pops clearly worth more than the 60th best NBA player.

According to TZ not until this year he wasn't

Glad to see y'all are ahead of the curve on your evals, only took him being a coach for 18 years for that to become something obviously self evident

05-22-2014 , 10:35 AM

#57583

chim17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

According to TZ not until this year he wasn't

Glad to see y'all are ahead of the curve on your evals, only took him being a coach for 18 years for that to become something obviously self evident

Was the last draft 30 pick rounds?

edit: Also, I think you'd just see more coaches picked earlier. At least the top ones. I think there's been a trend to realize coaching matters more.

05-22-2014 , 10:40 AM

#57584

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I would argue it's an over-correction

What I might be willing to do (not a TZ prediction):

Pop - 3

Thibs, Horny, Brad Stevens, and Hoiberg - 5 (I'd put Carlisle in that group but someone is prbly taking him in 4)

Don't think there's anyone I'm omitting that I would take in top 5 rounds (Doc and Spo in rd 6 but that's w/o much thought and I might consider Spo in 5, actually)

I personally prbly wouldn't end up taking a coach until last 2 rounds as a draft strategy tho

Last edited by DodgerIrish; 05-22-2014 at 10:45 AM. Reason: SVG in 4 for me too

05-22-2014 , 12:00 PM

#57585

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Lebron holding another "the decision" press conference, saying "I decided to take my talents back to Cleve...SIKE BITCH IM STAYING IN SOUTH BEACH **** YOU OHIO" would pretty much be the greatest thing ever.

05-22-2014 , 12:07 PM

#57586

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskyCoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NbJMq-QfU

in case somebody missed that video. worth a look from every basketball fan. amazing.

Thanks for pointing out this vid again.

Truly phenomenal vid.

I am now rooting har har hard for the Spurs to ship it this year, hopefully reigning over LeBron and the rest of the Heat.

05-22-2014 , 12:08 PM

#57587

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin

Thanks for pointing out this vid again.

Truly phenomenal vid.

I am now rooting har har hard for the Spurs to ship it this year, hopefully reigning over LeBron and the rest of the Heat.

Gross part is Spurs should be going for the repeat right now.

05-22-2014 , 12:17 PM

#57588

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich

"I know I'm prejudiced, and I know I'm bigoted in a lot of different ways," Cuban said in an interview shown at the annual GrowCo convention hosted by Inc. magazine, according to The Tennessean.

"If I see a black kid in a hoodie on my side of the street, I'll move to the other side of the street. "

I always thought it was suspicious that a white guy was his best player. smh

05-22-2014 , 12:18 PM

#57589

hoyasnaxa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D104

Lolol.

05-22-2014 , 12:22 PM

#57590

bearz

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Yeah they're gonna go for a repeat defeat

05-22-2014 , 12:23 PM

#57591

All-inMcLovin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D104

and then they play the Cleveland tourism vids.

Our economy's based on LeBron James, WHOOPS

05-22-2014 , 12:27 PM

#57592

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I mean, you are either lying on an idiot if you don't agree with what Cuban said.

05-22-2014 , 12:28 PM

#57593

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chim17

Gross part is Spurs should be going for the repeat right now.

Yeah that is the gross part I agree. Lucky ass bounce of the ball of the rim and then Ray Allen doesn't travel nor step out of bounds.

05-22-2014 , 12:36 PM

#57594

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GREEAR10

I mean, you are either lying on an idiot if you don't agree with what Cuban said.

depends. cuban is just invoking archetypes of threatening indviduals, but if "black dude in hoodie or white dude with shaved head" is all it takes for him to get a little shook then then he should prob see a therapist. if you find yourself in some kind of shady place, then of course you will want to protect yourself. if we're talking walking around downtown dallas or something ,then lol

edit: not that i disagree that we all hold our prejudices. the glass house stuff is often a cop-out though

Last edited by tarheeljks; 05-22-2014 at 12:46 PM.

05-22-2014 , 12:43 PM

#57595

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It's a good thing Silver set the bar for objectionable comments at a ban for life. What's the punishment for mildly objectionable comments?

I am amused that Sterling is going to get voted out based on the cover-up instead of the crime. It's a tidy way to ignore Stern's years of increasingly egregious neglect.

05-22-2014 , 12:52 PM

#57596

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

According to TZ not until this year he wasn't

Glad to see y'all are ahead of the curve on your evals, only took him being a coach for 18 years for that to become something obviously self evident

As the team's core gets older Pop's GOATness becomes more evident and harder to argue against

05-22-2014 , 12:55 PM

#57597

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I don't think Cuban literally meant that he ****s his pants every time he passes a black guy in a hoodie or a white guy with a shaved head. His point was that everyone makes irrational generalizations sometimes and it's more useful to work on overcoming your own issues than to point fingers at other people. I mostly agree, even though what Sterling did was so outrageous that the finger pointing was justified.

I appreciate Cuban's honesty and wish more people were as willing as he is to say what's on his mind even if it might make some people mad

05-22-2014 , 01:16 PM

#57598

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good for CUBES for not being scared to say something true

he should have just taken it a step further tho and said "im a billionaire and Im obviously going to be suspicious of any rando poor on the side of the road, especially if they look scary. lolpoors."

05-22-2014 , 01:21 PM

#57599

tarheeljks

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i don't think he literally meant that either, but regardless the choice of words itself merits some discussion. and yeah i agree about his point as it stands wrt personal prejudice and personal responsibility regarding such prejudices, or the point as i perceive it at least, but as i said above i think there's some copping out in there

05-22-2014 , 01:21 PM

#57600

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I don't agree with a public figure that a lot of people like should be making statements like that. People will start to think it's not racist to be making stereotypes like that because its "honest".

By no means am I saying it isn't okay to have thoughts like that, but someone like Cuban sharing it makes people think its more acceptable, which does lead to more racist thoughts IMO.

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