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07-13-2014 , 07:32 PM
Cmon guys

Cleveland is the favorite in the East

Even I know it
07-13-2014 , 07:34 PM
liporace, you still in the main?
07-13-2014 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Incorrect. Next year he would be an Unrestricted Free Agent and could refuse to sign with Houston theoretically.
Ah, my mistake. Thanks for correcting.
07-13-2014 , 07:36 PM
Raptors might be favored in the East imo
07-13-2014 , 07:36 PM
What happens to Bledsoe if all the teams run out of money?
07-13-2014 , 07:41 PM
Wait aren't the Rockets hard capped per the S&T for Ariza right now? Not that it makes a difference since they won't be going near the number.
07-13-2014 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Well they were going to be in bad shape anyway. Now they're just in worse shape as they'll have Parsons making like 25% of the cap and on the verge of needing a raise when this contract expires. Who else will they have at that point?
So your point is that, three years from now, Dallas will have 0 players under contract, therefore we're screwed...? The max contract length in the NBA is four years unless you were with the team the year before, so there are only a handful of players in the entire league who have 4+ years remaining on their contracts today. Aside from the absurdity of worrying about 2018 today (as if the Dallas roster won't look completely different in two years), you're roasting the Mavs for something that teams like SA, CHI, and OKC are all facing as well, as they also have 0 players under contract for 2017-2018.

Contracts aren't long anymore, and half of them have opt-out clauses anyway. Welcome to the new NBA.
07-13-2014 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Wait aren't the Rockets hard capped per the S&T for Ariza right now? Not that it makes a difference since they won't be going near the number.
I don't think so, but I'm not great with cap stuff. They turned it into a three-way trade where they sent out Asik and Casspi to New Orleans and got Ariza back.
07-13-2014 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Cmon guys

Cleveland is the favorite in the East

Even I know it
i think so too, bulls and pacers maybe. but its lebron. little things like some beef between kyrie and waiters, i mean its the king those guys will stop that kids stuff right away. everybody will work hard.
07-13-2014 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I don't think so, but I'm not great with cap stuff. They turned it into a three-way trade where they sent out Asik and Casspi to New Orleans and got Ariza back.
Actually Eric P also said they were. It's worthless however because they aren't getting near that number anyway.

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Starting in 2013-14 if a team acquires a player in a sign-and-trade, the apron -- the point $4 million above the tax line -- effectively becomes a hard cap for the remainder of that season. See question number 28 for details.
07-13-2014 , 07:52 PM
ya theyre capped dood.

they've got that 10mm in cap space and then a lot of tpe money. they can still add pieces.

Last edited by Scherer716; 07-13-2014 at 07:52 PM. Reason: slow pony.
07-13-2014 , 07:57 PM
tt, wiggz and ab, those guys have the long arms and quick feet...they have the ability to play defense. all they need is lebron, who has a great mind for defense, that is something a lot of guys dont know, but i see zen and the art of defense sometimes with lebron, and of course his size and athletic ability, but he has the mind on d that can influence the entire team, and those guys do have the raw materials.
07-13-2014 , 07:59 PM
wouldn't surprise me if rockets traded some stuff and wound up with mirotic
07-13-2014 , 08:01 PM
bosh and rio and old d wade and battier...sure they were good or even great at times, defensive players, long and know how to play, but they arent like world beaters ibaka freak like 7 footers dunking from the foul line dudes, it was lebron that glued that whole thing together. he can do the same with younger longer quicker guys imo. kyrie has to be that tough defensive point which he never has been. waiters lacks d wades length but he is strong and could play d and if he doesnt then f him play wiggz who looks to me like a great defensive player right now.
07-13-2014 , 08:05 PM
so great i get to root for lebron. really didnt like the heat. felt they got exposed for what i have been saying all along. they just got lucky there isnt any great laker, bull, spur, c's or whatever team to kick their ass the last few years. but the spurs did just that. now with lebron its redemption. and i liked the cavs last year.
07-13-2014 , 08:07 PM
alright are we finished with that silly kickball game what is it july...aug, sept, oct...man this is a long off season.
07-13-2014 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I'd like to think so. But Parsons might have been pretty serious about walking if he didn't get a raise this year; we can't really say. And if he was, then the Rockets would be absolutely screwed because they wouldn't be able to replace his type of production for 900k, and they can't just use his Bird rights to sign other people, obviously. This way, at least they gave themselves the right, no matter what, to lock him up for a few years if they pulled off the third star signing.
If that's the case you can always flip him at the deadline or before.

The only reason to ever let him out was if he was 100% going to work with you this off-season, and signing a brutal deal from your perspective at midnight when fas can sign is the exact opposite of that.
07-13-2014 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 21times20
the lakers deal was pretty much close to paying the minimum to get rid of lin's contract. you can argue whether or not they should be getting rid of lin, but the lakers gave them a deal that was way better than any other team would have.
If Lin was an UFA right now, people in this thread would be saying Houston should offer him 1/6. Not waiting 3 days to see if they actually needed that space is just dumb
07-13-2014 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
So Mirotic to Bulls is looking official. I don't really understand them going after Pau at all. They need a ton of help in the backcourt. They have like literally no guards once Rose gets hurt.
you and me both buddy. penile paupule sux imho anyways. but rose gonna be an above average player this year all this WIL talk in TZ over the past couple years is a bunch of CODSWALLOP
07-13-2014 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
If Lin was an UFA right now, people in this thread would be saying Houston should offer him 1/6. Not waiting 3 days to see if they actually needed that space is just dumb
^^^ Lin worth more than 6, just saying.
07-13-2014 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
If Lin was an UFA right now, people in this thread would be saying Houston should offer him 1/6. Not waiting 3 days to see if they actually needed that space is just dumb
Except you have no assurance that LA would keep the cap space available. They needed players and could have easily signed someone else and then Morey could have been screwed if Bosh wanted to sign but they couldn't find a taker for Lin (or if there was only a single taker had to way overpay them to take Lin). It made sense to trade Lin when lots of teams had cap space so that you could dump him for a pretty minor price.
07-13-2014 , 08:32 PM
Philadelphia would always be available
07-13-2014 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
If Lin was an UFA right now, people in this thread would be saying Houston should offer him 1/6. Not waiting 3 days to see if they actually needed that space is just dumb
They were probably just really, really spooked that LAL might backout, maybe some others move onto other moves in that time period and all of a sudden Bosh commits and they got no place to toss Lin and total egg on their face.

My guess is the balancing act they tried to pulloff was a lot harder than we think, tough to thread the needle like that.
07-13-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
Philadelphia would always be available
yeah but they would have had to pay like twice as much, didn't the lakers even send houston some cash in the deal?
07-13-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
Philadelphia would always be available
Then philly has way more leverage than LAL had though, I dunno it just sounds like it probably made sense to get rid of Lin's 1/8 with 15mill due to him to LAL when they could rather than be stuck with Bosh saying "OK I'm good to go" and having like 4 hrs to scramble in desperation more I think of it....

      
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