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07-11-2014 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
calling it right now, the lottery gonna be rigged for the wolves next year.
one time please
07-11-2014 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
And with 6 more months of training we could be great GMs. Look out NBA
I mean, apparently the NOP and Rockets agreed in principle to a deal that doesn't work under the cap. Seems like something that should be noted much earlier in the process. If your one main job is to know the cap do you really not think the average TZer wouldn't learn that better than the former NBA players who are now GMs? Sure, you probably won't know basketball near as well as the GM so personnel decisions aren't going to be something you should be left with, but paying a guy who you can have on a call when you're talking a trade who can just say "nope, that will put us over the cap" would seem pretty useful to most teams and you'd be paying them pennies compared to the rest of the operation.
07-11-2014 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
question: Is lakers a playoff team in the west with a roster of:

-lin
-healthy kobe
- deng
- jordan hill/randle
- gasol

???

I mean it seems that will be pretty much the best they can hope for at this point, i wonder if they can get the 8th seed with this.
They will fight for it, but certainly 8 better rosters than that in the west.

Sa
Okc
Lac
Hou
Portland
Memphis
Suns
Dallas

They all must be better imo
07-11-2014 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
question: Is lakers a playoff team in the west with a roster of:

-lin
-healthy kobe
- deng
- jordan hill/randle
- gasol

???

I mean it seems that will be pretty much the best they can hope for at this point, i wonder if they can get the 8th seed with this.
No, respectable but not a PO team in the West

Get a better PG and have Lin as a 3rd guard and maybe, hiring Karl for the reg season would be a big help

This is all under a false premise of a healthy Kobe tho
07-11-2014 , 04:32 PM
I will never count Kobe out.
07-11-2014 , 04:32 PM
i dont get it. the wolves are not scared of love leaving in one year (rightly so). therefore, Love does not have the leverage many itt are claiming. maybe i worded it badly
07-11-2014 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
And with 6 more months of training we could be great GMs. Look out NBA
lol at needing six months

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Originally Posted by Exothermic
question: Is lakers a playoff team in the west with a roster of:

-lin
-healthy kobe
- deng
- jordan hill/randle
- gasol

???

I mean it seems that will be pretty much the best they can hope for at this point, i wonder if they can get the 8th seed with this.
no.
07-11-2014 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by deej_0607





The only way Love has all the leverage is if the Wolves are actually scared of Love leaving in a year. As fanerio said, one more year of Love >>>>> cavs poopoo platter and no wiggins. Only thing cavs have that changes that equation is wiggins. Nothing Flip/wolves have said or done recently suggests they're terrified of the possibility of Love fleeing a year from now
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
woo hoo, thumbs all around (including @ exo - nice)



Wait, wut?



lol
i think somewhere, saunders is convinced a playoff run from the wolves = a resigning from love which would be the optimal wolves situation.

i wouldnt be surprised if saunders keeps love to the trade deadline trying to rope a dope a good start to a season into another 4-5 years of klove. obviously a slim chance of this happening, but id rather go that route than getting ****ing TT and waiters for love
07-11-2014 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
I mean, apparently the NOP and Rockets agreed in principle to a deal that doesn't work under the cap. Seems like something that should be noted much earlier in the process. If your one main job is to know the cap do you really not think the average TZer wouldn't learn that better than the former NBA players who are now GMs? Sure, you probably won't know basketball near as well as the GM so personnel decisions aren't going to be something you should be left with, but paying a guy who you can have on a call when you're talking a trade who can just say "nope, that will put us over the cap" would seem pretty useful to most teams and you'd be paying them pennies compared to the rest of the operation.
The cap had yet to be determined

It carries for awhile after the season for total accounting of revenues
07-11-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by deej_0607
i dont get it. the wolves are not scared of love leaving in one year (rightly so). therefore, Love does not have the leverage many itt are claiming. maybe i worded it badly
Why do you think this is true?

The only thing they have not to be worried about is urgency, they can wait until the trade deadline for better offers or to see if they're more competitive and/or he's had a change of heart

That has nothing to do with after the year tho - he gone
07-11-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
question: Is lakers a playoff team in the west with a roster of:

-lin
-healthy kobe
- deng
- jordan hill/randle
- gasol

???

I mean it seems that will be pretty much the best they can hope for at this point, i wonder if they can get the 8th seed with this.
The Lakers best chance to make the playoff is by unloading Jack Nicholson and the rights to play home games in the Staples Center to a team in the East for the rights to play in the East.
07-11-2014 , 04:36 PM
pretty sure u can just toss me some phone # and a bigass phone plan and i can get to work by monday
07-11-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
No, respectable but not a PO team in the West

Get a better PG and have Lin as a 3rd guard and maybe, hiring Karl for the reg season would be a big help

This is all under a false premise of a healthy Kobe tho
^^ Man am i the only dude in the world who still has hope that linsanity returns?, like i know lin turnovers are a huge problem but the guy for sure improved his shooting in the off season to complement harder being the primary ball handler & jeremy lin defence is abit underrated as its not far off from the guy the rockets starts over him. Also in pretty much every game we see lin being the primary ball handler for his team he like 100% of the time(lol sample) does pretty damn good.

I think if he fixes that turnover problem abit & be more decisive in his decision making when he goes to the lane i think hes a much better p.g than people give him credit for, but maybe that;s my linsanity fandom not wanting to leave iono.
07-11-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Not helping a contender is akin to going green

Ya it's great that you're sacrificing ... but what about everybody else?
It's not like this though. They're not sacrificing anything by missing out on Lin and a garbage pick.
07-11-2014 , 04:39 PM
chris broussard just confirmed..

Spoiler:
lebron james is indeed going "home" to cleveland.
07-11-2014 , 04:39 PM
Exo,

3rd guards can still see starter or close to minutes

He's just not much of a point
07-11-2014 , 04:40 PM
the main point is, the only way the wolves have no leverage in the situation is if love goes to Flip and says "I ONLY want to play for Cleveland, i am leaving after this year regardless, trade me to Cleveland now or get nothing in return". Love has been rumored to want to play in quite a few places though.
07-11-2014 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
It's not about screwing the GM. It's about not helping a competing team become much, much better.
Sure, but at the same time most teams are going to be thinking first and foremost about improving their team, not declining to do so in an effort to depress one opponent's chances. (Doesn't it count for something that other opponents will also benefit from this chicancery as well? Like, is New Orleans really better served having Chandler Parsons in Dallas than in Houston?)

And I suspect that in these circles if you don't keep your word, that gets around and you're going to have a much more difficult time doing business.

The Lakers got an expiring deal and a first-rounder for nothing. That has some value, even if I do think they won't be competing this year and don't have much faith in their current management team. Maybe there was actually a market for Lin, given all the talk about Philadelphia being interested previously.
07-11-2014 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Speel_Posher
the main point is, the only way the wolves have no leverage in the situation is if love goes to Flip and says "I ONLY want to play for Cleveland, i am leaving after this year regardless, trade me to Cleveland now or get nothing in return". Love has been rumored to want to play in quite a few places though.
even if this happens the wolves are better off holding onto love for this season and letting him walk then taking something awful like bennett and picks
07-11-2014 , 04:42 PM
I think Bazemore will stay with Lakers which is good. Maybe they can lure Bynum back or grab Oden. Put them together and you might have a third of a starting NBA center
07-11-2014 , 04:42 PM
ok they might be slightly worried about that possibility but mainly what im trying to say is having love for one year and getting nothing in return for him is a better option than getting Clevelands trash and 0 more years of Love. We didnt take GStates' trash (which is mostly what i meant when i said "nothing they've done) and we better not take cle's either
07-11-2014 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
It's not like this though. They're not sacrificing anything by missing out on Lin and a garbage pick.
In your opinion

They still have to field a team and they don't operate like Philly

They see a player they value more than his contract and a pick, why would they turn that down?

Your whole point is

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
It's not about screwing the GM. It's about not helping a competing team become much, much better. The Lakers didn't have any commitment to trade for Lin. That trade hardly helped them if it even did at all given that if they're to get better in the future they'll have to compete with Houston.
not Lin's worth
07-11-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Exo,

3rd guards can still see starter or close to minutes

He's just not much of a point
^^^ Every game where he ran the point in new york and houston(without harden) he played pretty damn good is what im saying though, outside of his turnover problems when he drives to the bucket and is indecisive he is a pretty good passer & solid team player. He has good offensive skills & iono i always loved the offense 10x better in both ny and houston when he ran the point rather than carmelo iso play or harden iso play. Even from a viewer standpoint that iso play is kinda boring vs watching a dynamic point play like what i always see with jlin etc.
07-11-2014 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Christophersen
I think Bazemore will stay with Lakers which is good. Maybe they can lure Bynum back or grab Oden. Put them together and you might have a third of a starting NBA center
I like Bazemore a lot, a lot

I suggested someone draft him in the recent dynasty one via PM
07-11-2014 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ Every game where he ran the point in new york and houston(without harden) he played pretty damn good is what im saying though, outside of his turnover problems when he drives to the bucket and is indecisive he is a pretty good passer & solid team player. He has good offensive skills & iono i always loved the offense 10x better in both ny and houston when he ran the point rather than carmelo iso play or harden iso play. Even from a viewer standpoint that iso play is kinda boring vs watching a dynamic point play like what i always see with jlin etc.
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