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03-08-2014 , 10:46 PM
johnson is a legit contendor imo
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03-09-2014 , 03:07 AM
I love watching elite grapplers come into MMA and run the jiu jitsu train all over everyone (until they get high enough to fight people who can neutralize it). Gunnar's first couple of fights are going to be fun, watching mega-elite specialists wreck low level guys is one of the best things about MMA. And Gunnar is a world-level grappler.
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03-10-2014 , 12:40 PM
I just realized that Manuwa, at the time of fighting Gustaffson, was 3-0 in the UFC with three injury stoppages. Kyle Kingsbury had a swollen eye and the doc stopped the fight, Cyril Diabate had some kind of weird leg injury that didn't seem to affect the first round but the doc stopped the fight after round 1, and Ryan Jimmo stepped awkwardly and sprained his ankle mid-fight.

3-0 UFC with three injury TKOs. I was wondering who this guy was at 3-0 and why I remembered nothing about him, hahaha.
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03-10-2014 , 03:21 PM
lol no wonder i didnt hear of him also
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03-13-2014 , 05:45 AM
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...watching mega-elite specialists wreck low level guys is one of the best things about MMA.
In grappling or striking, which is why Stephen Thompson is also so fun to watch.

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3-0 UFC with three injury TKOs. I was wondering who this guy was at 3-0 and why I remembered nothing about him, hahaha.
lol, yeah, Manuwa got to the UFC because in the UK circuit he had a good story (troubled kid off the street, first MMA fight at age 29) and inexplicable natural power. All of his 14 wins are finishes (13 (T)KO's). Hopefully he can use this fight to learn and get better, see how far he can go.
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03-13-2014 , 11:02 PM
I'm so looking forward to Gustafsson/Jones. Jones didn't seem to want to meet up with him again as he wanted the winner of a Gustafsson/Cormier bout.

Diego Sanchez is a slight underdog to Myles Jury, hoping for a solid win for Diego, just for the heart he displays.

Condit/Woodley... Is up in the air depending upon which Condit shows up. The Condit/Diaz fight was sorely disappointing from a fan perspective. I guess *points* is a way to win, but won't get you a performance bonus or a call to fill in for a Main Event slot on short notice either. Condit really needs to give Diaz a true beat down imo. That being said, I hope he performs like he should with woodley. A bout like Condit KO'ing Hardy is the type of bout I'd like to see.
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03-14-2014 , 03:00 PM
So...what odds would you guys give on the hypothetical Floyd Mayweather vs. Ronda Rousey fight? Assume they're both in shape and fighting tomorrow. My (incredibly uninformed) view is that Rousey wins a super high percentage of the time since Floyd is getting taken down and submitted anytime he doesn't get lucky. Then again, maybe I'm underestimating lolwomensports, but I don't think so.
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03-14-2014 , 03:50 PM
We've found Dana White's login.
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03-14-2014 , 03:53 PM
-500 Ronda. Floyd may be the best boxer to ever put on gloves. However he is a boxer not a fighter. Ronda takes him down and submits him.

Royce pretty much proved all of this about 20 years ago.
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03-14-2014 , 04:07 PM
^ Pretty much my exact thought process.
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03-14-2014 , 06:12 PM
what a cluster trying to figure out what happens if hendricks cant drop 1.5 lbs in 2 hours.
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03-14-2014 , 06:14 PM
I'd go with Floyd. I don't think Ronda could get him down fast enough. He probably knocks her out in 20-30 seconds on average (if he's smart and aggressive), given that Ronda's defense is terrible even when she's fighting bad lolwomen strikers. I mean, her defense is truly bad. Against Floyd she would get dropped very fast, very hard. And I don't think she can judo flip him in 20-30 seconds given that she can't judo flip most women that fast.
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03-14-2014 , 06:14 PM
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what a cluster trying to figure out what happens if hendricks cant drop 1.5 lbs in 2 hours.
Apparently, if he misses and Lawler wins, hes the champ. If he misses and then beats Lawler, the title remains vacant.
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03-14-2014 , 06:37 PM
4oz gloves on one of the most accurate boxers alive, Floyd would batter her silly before she laid a hand on him.

One the mma girls punched the face of her ffs.
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03-14-2014 , 06:43 PM
Ronda wouldn't need to get on top to win. She could Jump guard. She could sit down and attempt to grab a leg while she is still grounded. The second she grabs on to him the fight is over.

If it is a street fight (pretty sure that's what Ronda was talking about) she could sit down and crab walk over to him, until she got close enough to a leg.

As long as Ronda does not run at him the way she runs at her female opponents she would easily win... hard to believe these debates still lasted past ufc 15...
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03-14-2014 , 06:48 PM
She brought this up?

Explains a lot, more gimmicks from Dana's own gimmick.

Best thing possible to happen now is a brand new ladies UFC with their own show, chippendales and all (so I don't have to watch ever again). Dana's dream I reckon.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 03-14-2014 at 06:51 PM. Reason: Could even have their very own 2+2 thread. It would be great.
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03-14-2014 , 06:48 PM
Dear Bellator viewers, slow rolled myself today. Thought it was Alvarez vs Chandler 3 tonigh, which I think is the best leading-up-to trilogy yet in MMA, but turns out its Curran vs Strauss 3. Thoughts? All I really know about these 2 is they have a lot of decisions. Worth or not?
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03-14-2014 , 07:05 PM
Watching the prelims now. This whole card is underwhelming, even for a Bellator card. Not interested in watching Curran get a rematch either. But I'm watching, so what can i say?
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03-14-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Ronda wouldn't need to get on top to win. She could Jump guard. She could sit down and attempt to grab a leg while she is still grounded. The second she grabs on to him the fight is over.

If it is a street fight (pretty sure that's what Ronda was talking about) she could sit down and crab walk over to him, until she got close enough to a leg.

As long as Ronda does not run at him the way she runs at her female opponents she would easily win... hard to believe these debates still lasted past ufc 15...
This is exactly what she would do, and why Floyd would knock her senseless very quickly. He's several orders of magnitude faster, stronger and more accurate than her, and I think she's not smart enough/too proud to butt scoot after someone. With her judo background she'd probably be offended by the suggestion.
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03-14-2014 , 08:30 PM
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4oz gloves on one of the most accurate boxers alive, Floyd would batter her silly before she laid a hand on him.

One the mma girls punched the face of her ffs.
I'm assuming Floyd has never trained MMA, if he has then disregard this....

He is one of the most accurate boxers alive while standing in a boxing stance. MMA changes everything. You stand completely differently due to needing to guard against leg kicks/takedowns.



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Ronda wouldn't need to get on top to win. She could Jump guard. She could sit down and attempt to grab a leg while she is still grounded. The second she grabs on to him the fight is over.

If it is a street fight (pretty sure that's what Ronda was talking about) she could sit down and crab walk over to him, until she got close enough to a leg.

As long as Ronda does not run at him the way she runs at her female opponents she would easily win... hard to believe these debates still lasted past ufc 15...
and yea, this too
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03-14-2014 , 09:20 PM
Well Danny has the same opinion as me (only he was nicer about it), shall we disregard his post?
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03-14-2014 , 09:30 PM
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I'm assuming Floyd has never trained MMA, if he has then disregard this....

He is one of the most accurate boxers alive while standing in a boxing stance. MMA changes everything. You stand completely differently due to needing to guard against leg kicks/takedowns.
lol at floyd being scared of ronda's leg kicks. she's sooooooooo deadly with those.

He would literally need about 20-30 seconds to completely knock the jesus out of her. She'd have to charge and get him down immediately. And I don't think she can flip him in 20-30 seconds given that she doesn't even do that to women most of the time.

Floyd will come out in his regular stance, dance around for 10 seconds because he's much faster and quicker, and then potshot her a couple times before she can clinch and knock her out quickly.

Some of you are vastly underestimating the male >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> female gap. As long as Floyd is aware of "don't clinch", he's going to be so, so, so much faster and stronger than her that he'll just dance away from any attempts to clinch and push her 10 feet back if she gets close.
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03-14-2014 , 09:42 PM
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I think she's not smart enough/too proud to butt scoot after someone.
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Some of you are vastly underestimating the male >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> female gap.
So some of us are underestimating the male/female gap, yet you think Ronda Rousey is going to go into a cagefight against Floyd Mayweather over-confident and fighting suboptimally as a result? And none of Rousey's world class trainers are going to be able to convince her otherwise?

I completely agree with you that if Ronda Rousey allows her emotions to sway her from using optimal strategy then Floyd will win. However, I find the hypothetical far more interesting if we assume that they'll both fight intelligently.
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03-14-2014 , 09:48 PM
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This is exactly what she would do, and why Floyd would knock her senseless very quickly [...] and I think she's not smart enough/too proud to butt scoot after someone. With her judo background she'd probably be offended by the suggestion.
Nah.

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"I’ll tell you what I’d do," Rousey began. "You ready? I would drop down to the ground and crawl over to him as fast I as I can and then I’d grab him by … I wouldn't even stand up. I wouldn’t be anywhere near him. I would just do a little army crawl over there [laughs]. He’d have to run away and I’d be skittering after him, like the one dude in 'Bloodsport' who was doing the whole monkey-crawl fight system. I would do that. I would just bear crawl over there, just too low for him to hit me and tackle him down."

The show's host then asked Ronda if what she was saying was that, once she were to get the fight with Mayweather to the ground, that would be it.

"Well, I spend a lot of time there. I doubt that he does," Rousey explained humbly.
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03-14-2014 , 09:50 PM
Ronda reaches out for Floyd's leg, he hits her 17 times very ****ing hard in the middle of her face and makes her nose look like one of her ears.

The end.
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