I'm going to be the odd one out, I'm not keen on the idea of these superfights. Makes a total mockery of the idea of weight divisions.

Charles Barkley is an MMA judge?

lol wat

Weight divisions. You know, how fighters are grouped into certain weight categories? Why we have a light heavyweight belt, a welterweight belt, a heavyweight belt etc? Hard to understand how it might be a bit pointless to have these if we have welterweights fighting light heavyweights etc?

You make it sound like if one of these fights like Silva vs Jones went ahead that it would Silva at 185 vs Jones at 205.

I know Silva would pack on some muscle to gain a bit and Jones would cut a bit more and they would meet at some stupid weight in the middle. Why can't we just accept Silva as the best in his division and Jones as the best in his division? If one of them wanted to move up or down then all fine and good but that's much better than some stupid catch weight fight. If that's how things are going to be let's just do away with weight divisions entirely.

If silva went to 205 would you be okay with it? Because that is probably what they will do.

Silva just dosent want to hold a belt in the division machida and lil big are fighting in.

If Silva wanted to move up then all power to him, holding belts in more than one division is a massive achievement and unlike some stupid non-belt superfight actually means something.

As a fan of mma, the chance to see the 2 best fighters in the world go at it is quite intriguing no matter what weight class, not sure how it couldn't.

Also dint see difference of doing it at 200 lbs, than if they do it at 205 and silva instant vacates belt

anyone know where i can watch the full jones sonnen fight?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--wh...214939077.html


This makes too much sense to not happen....

-Chael has trashed Brazil and Wandy for a long time
-Both are well known fighters who can headline a card
-Both have no chance at getting a title shot anytime soon
-Wandy just came off a big win over Stann, Chael has lost 2 in a row....so while on paper Chael would be a heavy favorite, it makes sense from a competitive standpoint
-They could obviously promote it super well and it'd sell

I'd watch a Chael and Wandy fight for sure. Infinitely better than a "Chael was the only guy we could get on short notice now get in there and get pummeled buddy" fight.

Even if you think the stoppage was early(which I'd agree with), what exactly do you think Chael was going to do to survive those last ~30 seconds?....he was pretty much in the fetal position covering his head

If Silva moved to 205 and actually beat Jones in a Superfight, that would be the perfect opportunity to retire on the spot. Ride in to the sunset undefeated in the UFC with a couple belts and numerous records that will stand for a long long time.

It dosent work that way though :/. No fighter is willing to give it up, because they all believe that they will win the next one.

It's going to take someone elses hand getting raised for silva to hang up the gloves.

Most of Jones' strikes were blocked in that position and Sonnen was moving his knees in between he and Jones as the ref stopped it.

Sonnen was covering up and in the fetal position. However, doing that and riding out the flurry as he tried to regaining half guard with his lower body was probably his best option given the awkward position he was in after a great knee strike to his chest by Jones.

That said, I am certainly giving Sonnen the benefit of the doubt. He easily could have been done, which I why I said possibly. Assuming that he's pretty much guaranteed the W if he makes it to round 2.

It was a bad stoppage for a typical UFC fight, much less a title fight. Makes me really appreciate the reffing job in the Carwin-Lesnar and both Maynard-Edgar title fights.

That fight would be 100% stopped if he made it to the break and Jones' corner/the ref/anyone saw his compound toe fracture. Doctor stoppage every single time.

Now THAT would be a great way to end a career! Would go down as arguably the greatest fighter ever. Having said that, even doing this there would be some who would say he has to defend his belt to be a true champion, so it becomes an endless path.

On a different note, interesting that GSP is now pushing for the removal of rounds. I can see where he is coming from, he is not quite as fast as he used to be so wants to shift the game to something that would favour his superhuman conditioning. Or he is trying to angle for a special rules match with Silva which would tilt it slightly in his favour.

He is not pushing for removal of rounds :/ he said he feels it would be more realistic and fair.. That like UFC fighters saying they liked the 10min first round, there not actually pushing for it to happen.. Also Joe gets ppl to get way to deep and say some crazy stuff lol, not sure GSP would be better off fighting with no rounds than he Is with current rule set lol.

I can see how it would benefit him greatly. His greatest asset these days is his insane conditioning. Best conditioning + best wrestler in division == someone who is unbeatable once you start getting past 5 mins of continuous fighting. The good strikers would be gassed soon after this point and he would rate his wrestling ability (with good reason) as good enough to keep him out of trouble against the strong grapplers. I personally would love to see the removal of rounds but that just won't happen as too many fans want to see knockouts.

It would help guys with better aerobic conditioning, like Diaz and Condit, more than GSP. That said, I'd assume GSP and his camp would be one of the first to properly adjust to the new rules.


And I don't see Jones-Silva happening because of Jones. Jones is on pace to be known as the greatest mixed martial artist ever. A loss to Silva ensure that he'd never be thought of more highly than Anderson regardless of what he does after that.

FWIW Silva signed a new 10-fight contract with the UFC a few days ago.

No way does either fighter change divisions. It would be a catchweight fight.

Spider/JBJ would not be a one-and-done fight unless one fighter destroys the other. So really, choosing to fight JBJ is like having 2 matches (maybe 3) rather than one. By that third fight, Silva is something like 40 years old and will almost certainly lose to the much younger JBJ who would then become the undisputed GOAT.

you would actually see more KO's with no rounds. no rounds would most defiantly benefit BJJ fighters than anyone else.

also Think about it, with no time limit do you think GSP (that was gassing in the third) would beat diaz?

I heard the Joe Rogan podcast where he's talking about this... It's not 'no rounds', it's 1 15-minute round or 1 25-minute round.

I don't remember what he said (if anything) about the judging of that though.

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