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03-17-2013 , 12:56 AM
feel kinda bad for diaz... his take down defence in later rounds was the only thing really worth giving him credit for.. and a brief few punches in the third round. guy clearly wasn't in this fight mentally or actually.
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03-17-2013 , 12:57 AM
would GSP fight Rory?
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03-17-2013 , 12:57 AM
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GSP/Hendricks or Hendricks/Condit II next?
Best move for the UFC is the latter ainec (might even get Hendricks/Conditions III). The right thing is GSP/Hendricks tho
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03-17-2013 , 12:58 AM
GSP v Hendricks gon be good.
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03-17-2013 , 12:59 AM
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feel kinda bad for diaz... his take down defence in later rounds was the only thing really worth giving him credit for.. and a brief few punches in the third round. guy clearly wasn't in this fight mentally or actually.
It's one thing to talk trash to promote the fight but he has been talking trash for years and delivers literally nothing.

I don't feel at all sad for him. He is classless scum who got the beat down he richly deserved.
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03-17-2013 , 01:02 AM
lol Diaz

well, co main was nice. nothing wrong with a bit of comedic relief after that awesome Hendricks display.
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03-17-2013 , 01:03 AM
GSP/Hendricks
Condit/Kampmann
Ellenberger/MacDonald
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03-17-2013 , 01:04 AM
GSP v Hendricks

Then some combination of

Condit-Macdonald-Maia-Ellenberger
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03-17-2013 , 01:24 AM
i'm a huge diaz fan lol. you guys need to listen to his interviews to really understand the guy's frustration. he's a real human being who expresses exactly how he feels and for that i respect him.
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03-17-2013 , 01:28 AM
basically the guy's frustrations are these:

-he's been fighting in the UFC for his whole life, dedicated his entire life to it and has **** to show for it financial wise and now he's 29 and his prime years are behind him. he needed a title shot and he did what was necessary to get that title shot to the best of his ability.
-the rules favor a boring technical fighter like GSP and guys like Diaz will never have a chance against him.

i don't fully agree with his gripes, but at least the man tells it like it is without putting up a front of a professional and i feel like every sport needs that
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03-17-2013 , 01:30 AM
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i'm a huge diaz fan lol. you guys need to listen to his interviews to really understand the guy's frustration. he's a real human being who expresses exactly how he feels and for that i respect him.
frustration at what? he just got paid six figures (again) for the fight of a lifetime against the best WW we've probably ever seen. neither of which (the money or the fight) he deserved.

what else could he want? him not knowing how to manage any of that is, guess what, on him (and possibly on cesar gracie). not on GSP, not on Dana, not on us as fans.

here is the MMA world on a silver platter. just go take it. and he couldn't take it.
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03-17-2013 , 02:05 AM
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basically the guy's frustrations are these:

-he's been fighting in the UFC for his whole life, dedicated his entire life to it and has **** to show for it financial wise and now he's 29 and his prime years are behind him. he needed a title shot and he did what was necessary to get that title shot to the best of his ability.
He washed out of the UFC because he was a mediocre fighter, spent most of his career in the second tier organization and doesn't handle any aspect of being a professional fighter well. He had a chance to fight GSP a year and a half ago and decided not to show up to the press conferences and basically sabotaged his own career, which by the way has been ridiculously bloated relative to his actual performance because of the tough guy act and the people that fall for it. He's not a martyr he has mental problems.

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-the rules favor a boring technical fighter like GSP and guys like Diaz will never have a chance against him.
So like how do we change the rules to make Diaz a better fighter than GSP? What a ridiculous injustice that we haven't been able to flesh out the criteria necessary to show his superiority...

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i don't fully agree with his gripes, but at least the man tells it like it is without putting up a front of a professional and i feel like every sport needs that
He's not "telling it like it is" he's just putting on the "i tell it like it is costume" and acting like a clown. It's just your basic heel act except deep down he's also actually a douche.
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03-17-2013 , 02:12 AM
Jake nailed it.
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03-17-2013 , 02:17 AM
Diaz is asking for a rematch in the post fight presser so retirement may be shortlived.

Saying he didn't prepare properly for the fight because no one came to help him train?
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03-17-2013 , 02:24 AM
lol diaz "i have never payed taxes in my life but noone wants to hear about that"
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03-17-2013 , 02:24 AM
Getting quite emotional actually.
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03-17-2013 , 06:03 AM
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guy clearly wasn't in this fight mentally or actually.
Maybe GSP was completely out of Diaz's league, but it seemed like Diaz showed up not for the sport of the fight, but rather to grow and market his character and legend. Stuff like charging after GSP at the ends of Round 1 and 2 when he clearly knows that's a dumb, pointless thing to do... it just seemed like he was trying to further vilify himself to hype his character or whatever.
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03-17-2013 , 06:34 AM
I don't agree with any talk that Diaz didn't turn up for a fight. He was obviously working to a gameplan and as the fight wore on was the only person I have seen in quite a while effectively stop GSP's takedowns for a period there. He also knew he would be spending a lot of time on the ground and seemed to be trying to work for a kimura - every time the fight went to the ground he was going for this. He seemed to be genuinely surprised that GSP is just that damn good - even though Diaz was prepared GSP still nailed most of his shots and saw the kimura coming a mile off. Diaz also tried the same trash talking hand waving crap he tried against Condit except this time he got his head snapped back a few times with a lightning fast jab. He learned quickly that just because GSP is a great wrestler doesn't mean he can't throw a mean punch.

But... rematch? Seriously? The guy loses a fight, tests positive and gets suspended, returns and loses again, and this warrants a rematch? Especially after what Hendricks has done this is not justifiable. If the fight was close then maybe but GSP wiped the floor with him for all 5 rounds. If he whines about not landing endorsements he might want to think that, you know, turning up to photo shoots and being able to string a few words together without swearing might be part of the job description.
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03-18-2013 , 01:31 AM


lolol
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03-18-2013 , 12:10 PM
lol that video is hilarious
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03-18-2013 , 05:42 PM
GSP/Hendricks

I think it's the most competitive fight GSP in a long time. Hendricks looks to be a better version of Koscheck - better wrestling credentials, bigger power in his hands, and generally a little smarter/better polished.

He has a legitimate shot to win against GSP, which is not something I've thought about a GSP opponent in a long time. Probably since Thiago Alves. Of

Dan Hardy
Josh Koscheck
Jake Sheilds
Carlos Condit
Nick Diaz

Three of those are strikers who were easy to takedown and dominate (hardy, diaz, and condit). the other two were guys who realistically needed to get takedowns and be on top to win (koscheck and shields), and were easily outpointed on the feet by GSP. Not since Alves (who at that time looked like a KO monster with great TD defense) have I thought a challenger actually had the style to beat GSP.

But Hendricks has a great chance to keep it standing (and to get back up if taken down) with his wrestling pedigree, and he's a better striker than any other wrestling-centric challenger GSP has ever faced. GSP should still be favored, but I'm excited by the legit danger Hendricks poses.
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03-18-2013 , 07:34 PM
Totally agree with everything you said. Out of all the fighters at welterweight, Hendricks' style will likely cause the biggest issues for GSP. His wrestling is on the same level as GSP's and he is a heavier hitter. He is also deceptively strong. IMHO Hendricks should have been the one fighting for the title the other night, after beating the #2 contender Condit and cementing his position as #1 there is no excuse not to give him the shot. It would also once and for all test how strong GSP's chin really is.
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03-18-2013 , 07:44 PM
he's not deceptively strong, he's built like a tank.
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03-18-2013 , 07:50 PM
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Totally agree with everything you said. Out of all the fighters at welterweight, Hendricks' style will likely cause the biggest issues for GSP. His wrestling is on the same level as GSP's and he is a heavier hitter. He is also deceptively strong. IMHO Hendricks should have been the one fighting for the title the other night, after beating the #2 contender Condit and cementing his position as #1 there is no excuse not to give him the shot. It would also once and for all test how strong GSP's chin really is.


While he is fun to watch, his BJJ, stand up, and wrestling are all worse than GSP's. Prolly has more KO power and a stronger chin though.
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03-18-2013 , 08:14 PM
Hendricks will need to sharpen up his striking skills. I believe GSP has better technical striking (although not by much), and Hendricks from what I've seen has far better wrestling. Can't recall GSP using much Jiu-jitsu, more of the takedowns and GNP strat.

I also doubt GSP will fall prey to a wild JH haymaker left. GSP's too quick, the left will have to be set up properly. If GSP dominates JH, he has grounds for the PNP title along with GOAT - even though I never really cared for him lol.
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