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09-07-2019 , 05:32 PM

#17351

Dream Crusher

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Originally Posted by Rooksx

Does Khabib's suffocating style cause his opponents to make mistakes?

It causes his opponents to gas out.

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09-07-2019 , 05:59 PM

#17352

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

It causes his opponents to gas out.

He will gas trying to fight Ferguson for 5 rounds.

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09-07-2019 , 06:02 PM

#17353

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Definitely think Ferguson is the toughest matchup for him but Khabib won't respect his power and should be able to shoot for TDs even easier than vs Piorier/McGregor.

He looked way more explosive today than vs McGregor or Iquinta I thought. The way he was shooting and level changing was scary.

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09-07-2019 , 06:08 PM

#17354

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^^^ The difference is that Ferguson won't try and get back up once taken down, once the fight hits the ground Khabib will be in danger both from helbows & submissions & that will be the biggest difference between Tony & everybody else.

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09-07-2019 , 06:11 PM

#17355

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Reminiscent of GSP. You know the takedown is coming, we know it, everybody knows it and you still can't stop it. Total dominance.

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09-07-2019 , 06:13 PM

#17356

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

He will gas trying to fight Ferguson for 5 rounds.

If we are discussing the stylistic matchup then Tony is going to have exert more energy than Khabib just like all of Khabib's other opponents. However, Tony has a stronger gas tank thank anyone Khabib has faced which should allow him the maximum amount of opportunities to catch Khabib in a submission.

If we're just making crazy predictions I say it's going to be called a no contest due to a cut caused by an inadvertent headbutt in the first 2 minutes of the fight.

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09-07-2019 , 07:12 PM

#17357

rainbowsinthesky

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insane how fast Khabib looked tonight. leggo Tony v Khabib 5th time's the charm, we can't have this GOAT promo video without the fight

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09-07-2019 , 08:50 PM

#17358

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Originally Posted by Masq

Yes, after his failed haymakers and the guillotine he was done and looking to get out of there.

You don't know what was in his mind and I view these comments as highly disrespectful to Poirier. From my perspective, Poirier gave it 100% but 100% wasn't nearly enough to get it done vs Khabib.

That being said, before the fight I posted about Poirier not being as mentally tough as Khabib. The way the fight ended should not have come as a shock to anyone.

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Urijah Faber says Poirier has broken in fights before and the thing that sets Khabib apart from other fighters is his mentality. We just watched a textbook mental breakdown with Mitrione a couple weeks ago. I don't believe Poirier's mental game is as weak as Mitrione's but there's no way it's as strong as Khabib's either.

Poirier could catch Khabib and knock him out of course but it's not reasonable to expect that he will win a dog fight vs an undefeated fighter that has no quit and has controlled the clinch 87% of the time and controlled the ground 96% of the time in his UFC fights.

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09-08-2019 , 03:32 AM

#17359

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Dana got that Diaz vs Masvidal fight done fast! I just think there is so much money to be made in that fight that it was easy to come to terms. The fight is in less than 2 months away headlining UFC 244 at Madison Square Garden.

Dana is having a special baddest mother ****er belt made for the fight (he says as a 1 time thing but I wouldn't be surprised to see it defended).

Dana is stacking the card and so far it's looking like:

Nate vs Masvidal
Gastelum vs Till
Johnny Walker vs Corey Anderson
Derrick Lewis vs Blagoy Ivanov

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09-08-2019 , 07:13 AM

#17360

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Johnny Walker is becoming a fan favorite. right? That is a very fan friendly card already.

Dustin seemed to become undisciplined when he had Khabib backing up. His striking looked very Khabibesque. Basically whiffing on all those haymakers. What if he had stayed more technical with his boxing? I think that is where he first went wrong in the fight.

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09-08-2019 , 07:26 AM

#17361

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I'd just wait for him to dive at my legs and kick him in the teeth. Come at me, Khabitch.

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09-08-2019 , 02:19 PM

#17362

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Originally Posted by ReliableSource

Dustin seemed to become undisciplined when he had Khabib backing up. His striking looked very Khabibesque. Basically whiffing on all those haymakers. What if he had stayed more technical with his boxing? I think that is where he first went wrong in the fight.

I forget exactly what he said about the haymakers but Dustin did say that Khabib's awkward style caused him a lot of trouble on the feet and he could never get in any sort of rhythm.

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I'd just wait for him to dive at my legs and kick him in the teeth. Come at me, Khabitch.

I don't know why you would be so disrespectful towards such a great champion that has earned so much respect, especially given all the respect shown between the 2 fighters as well as the crowd yesterday. That's the sort of incivility that Conor brings to MMA. I believe all the other Conor fans are still hiding under a rock though.

As for kicking him in the teeth, good luck with that. He's not Ben Askren.

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09-08-2019 , 02:38 PM

#17363

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There haven't been any champion fighters since Hulk Hogan (who I could also beat up.)

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09-08-2019 , 03:21 PM

#17364

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At some point, one of these fighters is going to have to say f it and just go try and knock Khabib out without being tentative and scared of the takedown. Hes going to take you down anyways, thats what he does. Go knock him out before he does it instead of being half in half out on the feet.

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09-08-2019 , 04:18 PM

#17365

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yeah gl selling it to your fighter as a coach that he has no shot vs Khabib and has to start swinging from the hip as soon as the bell rings, unless he accidentally fights someone from outside top 10 it's not going to happen

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09-08-2019 , 04:27 PM

#17366

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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish

Gl selling your fighter the truth?? They kniw that too at this point. Go get him, quit letting him slow burn you to an easy defeat.

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09-08-2019 , 04:39 PM

#17367

Alpha Fish

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like I said, this will never happen in 100 years irl but sure discuss the hypotheticals

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09-08-2019 , 10:37 PM

#17368

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It kind of happened last year when Khabib fought Al.

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09-08-2019 , 10:46 PM

#17369

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don't recall Al swinging for the fences from the get go, and once he got taken down a few times it was already too late, and he was ranked 10 at the time iirc

Tony and his camp are 100% sure that they can beat Khabib with their gameplan and so is Conor. The only one who's going to be swinging wildly at Khabib is Justin (if they ever fight) but he fights everyone that way

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09-09-2019 , 08:18 AM

#17370

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Has khabib ever talked about moving up a weight?

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09-09-2019 , 09:03 AM

#17371

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Im not sure if he has actually said he wants to move up but I think hes been pretty vocal about wanting to fight GSP in the past and there is no way that fight would happen at 155 so at the very least he must be open to fighting up a weightclass.

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09-09-2019 , 09:07 AM

#17372

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Don't think so. GSP was planning on making 155 from what he was saying on Rogan's pod (or maybe it was Ariel's) and the like.

Otherwise, him sticking around and defending the belt wouldn't be an issue (they wouldn't be fighting for it).

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09-09-2019 , 09:46 AM

#17373

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I guess I was wrong about that so. I guess the question I have now is would they somehow make GSP prove he can make the weight before they would book that fight. That would be a perfect fight for a catchweight, but GSP probably wants to fight for a belt so is crazy enough to try make the 155.

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09-09-2019 , 11:25 AM

#17374

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It doesn't matter.

If Khabib lost they fear a very likely possibility that GSP would bounce again, like he did after fighting Bisping. If it did play out, I assume GSP would be then willing to fight Conor for big $$$ tho.

If GSP could make 155 GSP/Conor makes a ton of sense right now. Hell, they could fight at catchweight or 170, bc of that I think it shows that GSP is done done.

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09-09-2019 , 11:29 AM

#17375

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GSP is far from a huge guy:

Remember that Conor was a 145er.

I think GSP said he was looking for legacy fights, moreso than for the belt per se. Winning the 185 belt was a legacy fight, 155 belt would be too - but beating Conor is a legacy fight regardless (and would be the biggest fight they could make, bigger than a match with Khabib for either prbly).