A lot of the longstanding dominant champ types got immediate rematches

Rousey (atleast it looks to be headed that way)
Penn vs Edgar
Silva vs Weidman

It isn't looking like Aldo is going to though...

I suspect you're very much in the minority because this sounds like casualfan 101 to me.

It was a flash KO on a well executed punch. It's also almost exactly an endpoint on the outcome spectrum. It seems super unlikely that it's truly indicative of their relative skill levels.

To put it another way, imagine they got in a solid, if unremarkable back-and-forth fight and it ended with a Conor flash KO. Would your opinion regarding a rematch change? It probably shouldn't.

I question if an instant rematch, especially following a brutal KO, is in the best interest of the loser. It must be a massive blow to one's confidence to get knocked out. I keep thinking back to Silva-Weidman II and the way Silva twice dropped into a crouch while walking to the cage. The guy looked incredibly nervous and as if he would rather have been anywhere else. It may be better for Aldo to fight someone easier and regain some confidence before taking on McGregor again.

Here's a simpler narrative:

Aldo pulled out of their first scheduled match up for questionable reasons, finally made it to the ring and got knocked out cold during their first exchange.

The logjam was created by Conor jumping rank IMO. Edgar has earned another shot, certainly, but where are these other logs? Aldo cleaned out the division, pull-outs or not. All the top contenders had shots already. If anything him pulling out last time accelerated Chad's chance to fight for the belt again.

Should have been Edgar vs mcgreggor in the summer. Frankly, even though Conor is very arguably living up to the hype and may be as special as advertised, he should have been fighting his way through Edgar or Chad before he got a shot anyway.

It's pretty simple I think. I don't want it to be about money but it is. I don't want to admit that it's about selling fights to casual fans but it is. I think the people who dislike Aldo and are trying submit logical arguments as to why it is fair are in the exact same denial I am.

Best thing for UFC (and fans) is likely some combo of a Frankie/Mendes/Aldo RR to recrown the champ while Conor goes up to 155 and fights RDA (sorry Cowboy). The result of that fight is largely immaterial, but if Conor loses which seems likely, he comes back to take on the survivor of the 145 group.

Only issue there is that if Aldo wins the title back once CM vacates (which he may not because lolrules), we get CM/Aldo II which may be worse than Frankie or Mendes II

While this is true, it should be his choice as a ten year undefeated champ with his record and fight resume.

More like a simply loaded narrative.

It was questionable if you believe Conor's trash talk, which he likely doesn't even believe. Lots of fights get canceled due to injury. The ability to speculate does not make it questionable. He missed one fight, so "finally made it to the ring" means the very next opportunity.

Conor fans seem to be believing the disrespect he was manufacturing to hype the fight is real. Now that he is done selling the fight he has been nothing but respectful regarding Aldo as a champ. Here is a secret, the trash talk was showmanship, Aldo is one of the best who ever fought and still may be even with this loss. Even if you like Conor better.

Well, I felt Dana White's comments in the post fight presser after he didn't make it that time were indicative of a sense of skepticism at the veracity of Aldo's reasons for withdrawing.

I'm not sure what the second paragraph has to do with anything really. Aldo was the best in the division in the UFC. He just got got like every fighter eventually does. He won't be able to trust his chin moving forward so I think it's premature to assume he'll climb back to the title belt. But leaving that aside, his last two fights have involved being taken the distance by Mendes (who got ****ed up by McGregor and Edgar in two and one rounds respectively) and getting put to sleep in 13 seconds. A rematch with him simply doesn't make sense right now considering the options available for the UFC regarding McGregor's next move.

"One general will always go to great lengths to praise a general whom he has bested"

he was nearly universally accepted as the best active p4p in the world. Beating him is far and away Conor's biggest accomplishment in the ring, followed by a short notice and recently knocked out Chad. If Aldo is a washed up glass jaw who is not even worthy a rematch at this point then Conor has literally beaten nobody of consequence and is yet to be tested.

If the fight went 3 rounds and then the 1 punch KO I wouldn't be against a rematch if the fight was not totally one sided. Like I said, with everything leading up to this fight, and then the fight itself, Aldo looked like an amateur challenger, and not a great Champion. Sorry, if Aldo wants a instant rematch he shouldn't have sht the bed in spectacular fashion, he did the opposite of what a great Champion should have done there.

If the instant rematch does happen, it may be difficult to determine whether it was truly Aldo's choice or Dana putting the pressure on in the form of a big fat paycheque.

Dana white only cares about money, and his attitude and treatment of fighters and others in his employ is disgusting. That doesn't mean he is always wrong, but he had a lot of reasons to want Aldo to fight no matter what.

Even if everything you say is true, it all boils down to the last sentence you wrote, and that is if you mean "makes business sense". Plenty of other champs have been given the respect of a rematch. It is nearly a given. They are changing the rules because they want to write the mcgreggor story in the most profitable way possible. Fine. Don't pretend that Aldo isn't getting disrespected though. And even if it is smart business, it doesn't make it any more honorable.

I have become a mcgreggor fan. I think he is brilliant as a showman, and really may be the fighter it seems, but I am not looking forward to more and more drama fueled WWE grudges being the driver for match ups going forward, especially since it will mean watching a lot of dullard fighters who suck at trash talk embarrass themselves emulating Conor to try to make themselves draws or jump rank.

Casual fans will be happy with the one sided 13 second pay per views so they can treat it like every other team sport and hashtag their favorite fighter and cheer that they like the toughest guy around, but that **** is not interesting to me. Real fans like fights more than fighters, even if they have favorites. This is not a good thing for the sport IMO, even if it is good for the business.

I think the Mendez fight was a great fight tbh, but as a fight fan you'll understand that a fighter of McGregor's style is unlikely to deliver many five round GOAT fights, and certainly not at that weight.

I agree with that. My post is a little fractured, but the 13 second casual fan favorites was not a dig at Conor's performance. If he does the same thing to Edgar, Aldo again, and the next few comers I will not complain. But my comment was around my fear of the promoters realizing that people would rather see a brand name fighter knock out a tomato can and be a cash cow paper champ will become the sole factor in match ups. The more and more they go toward making decisions based on manufactured drama and promotion, the less and less chance there will be to see fights that are designed to determine the best fighter in the world.

I don't see this happening. Regarding McGregor, he will fight Edgar/Aldo if he stays at 145, or one of the 3-4 ranked fighters at 155. Now if CM fights the #6+ ranked at 155 than we can worry. Also, people don't want to spend PPV money and see a 1 minute fight, if it's a great matchup people won't complain.

UFC is still far from Boxing.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/146...r-vs-B.J.-Penn

and again, Penn was the draw

Sorry, should've been more clear.

I think you and I were agreeing on this, but I was using that quote to point out that even though I think what you said is correct, Conor is always going to praise Aldo and be respectful here.

First, Aldo is one of the all-time greats, his legacy is built so denying that, even after a win, is stupid. Second, he won. The more he shows respect to Aldo, the more he looks better because if Aldo is a legend, he's a legend killer.

It's the same thing Wiedman did after Silva I, "He's the GOAT, he's a legend, etc. etc." (Oh and by the way, I just knocked him out so, ya know...). It doesn't mean both men aren't being genuine, but it's just how these post fights will go.

He got tagged in a combat sport with 4 oz. gloves, that **** happens.

Unless you think every exchange between the two of them ends that way, it's safe to say we saw an outlier of a performance last night. Cool as all hell to watch, but it doesn't preclude the legitimacy of a rematch.

Others have given some decent reasons for other fights for both guys going forward, but "OMG13secondKO" isn't really a good one.

Rockhold is gonna hold that belt for a while, wow that was impressive. No way Yoel stands a chance versus him

No real basis outside eyetest, but I'd be shocked if Aldo fought anytime soon, much less rematch

Aldo pulls out of fights all the time and if he doesn't get an immediate rematch that will be a major reason. Aldo has pulled out of five title fights and Conor faught injured.
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jose-...f-title-fights

So when the match makers are determining rematches, a major factor is how many times someone pulled out of fights over their career? I did not know that. Any other times this has played a major role immediately after they showed up and made weight?

Barao missed weight and demolished the main event of a card that became a black eye on the promotion and got Dana red-faced at the press and bloggers. He got an immediate SECOND chance at a rematch.

Maybe you are right but I think money is the only factor, major or otherwise.

lol at Aldo "clearing out the division"
Here's the top ten before 194
1 Conor McGregor
2 Frankie Edgar
3 Chad Mendes
4 Ricardo Lamas
5 Max Holloway
6 Cub Swanson
7 Charles Oliveira
8 Jeremy Stephens
9 Dennis Bermudez
10 Nik Lentz
not to mention Anthony Pettis

Has a lot to do with money, but it also has to do with compay guys like Conor, Fabre getting what they want and less marketable harder to deal with guys like Aldo less likely to get what they want.