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03-28-2008 , 11:13 PM
for the people that cant figure it out...when a team has no forwards and above average guards, the guards are usually going to have very good stats

take love, mbah a moute, and keefe off ucla and watch collison avg 30 a game

edit: watch him avg. 40 during the regular season playing in that conference
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03-28-2008 , 11:14 PM
man these games suck
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03-28-2008 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TronSpecial
not just curry but the whole damn team.
You still dont know what youre talking about.

Shot 49% vs Wisconsin, 39% vs GTown, and 49% against Gonzaga.

Shouldn't a team "on fire" at least make half of their shots?
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03-28-2008 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
msu matches up pretty horribly w/memphis so i don't think this is very indicative of the tigers' shot at winning a national championship. they are playing very well though


edit: people thinking curry is on a hot shooting streak should go check the numbers-- he's really, really good at shooting the basketball

lol jackets
It really depends on match ups. I think Memphis matches up better with Texas than Stanford. The only reason you'd want Stanford if you were a Memphis fan is because the game is in Texas.
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03-28-2008 , 11:16 PM
nobody scores that much on wisconsin unless they are on fire.
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03-28-2008 , 11:17 PM
Not feeling so good about the Memphis game now in the elite 8. Texas doesnt matchup so well with them either.
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03-28-2008 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ut2010
Not feeling so good about the Memphis game now in the elite 8. Texas doesnt matchup so well with them either.
how do you figure?
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03-28-2008 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TronSpecial
nobody scores that much on wisconsin unless they are on fire.
Wisconsin didnt play well at all tonight defensively and fell apart on offense without Hughes, which led to some transition baskets for Davidson, but when you say a team in "on fire" shooting I think of a team that is draining shot after shot after shot, not making less than half of them.
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03-28-2008 , 11:23 PM
lol come on. maybe thats the definition of on fire for a short period of time, but for an overall game this would be on fire.
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03-28-2008 , 11:23 PM
Gtown just played sloppy and lost. They outshot Davidson by wide margin but turned the ball over way too much and couldn't hit free throws. Davidson won without shooting well.
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03-28-2008 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EWS87
for the people that cant figure it out...when a team has no forwards and above average guards, the guards are usually going to have very good stats

take love, mbah a moute, and keefe off ucla and watch collison avg 30 a game

edit: watch him avg. 40 during the regular season playing in that conference
yes, curry's stats are inflated b/c he's by far their best offensive option, but if you're implying that he only scores a lot b/c his conference is weak then you are mistaken.


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Originally Posted by Number27
It really depends on match ups. I think Memphis matches up better with Texas than Stanford. The only reason you'd want Stanford if you were a Memphis fan is because the game is in Texas.
i don't agree that memphis would rather play texas than stanford. the twins cause problems for anyone, but memphis would just abuse stanford's guards. yeah texas also has small guards like msu, but they are much faster and much better offensively.

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Wisconsin didnt play well at all tonight defensively and fell apart on offense without Hughes, which led to some transition baskets for Davidson, but when you say a team in "on fire" shooting I think of a team that is draining shot after shot after shot, not making less than half of them.
in addition to this, the quality of shots matters a lot. wisconsin wasn't playing the type of defense it normally does so it's misleading to say "zomg davidson shot 50%-- no one shoots 50% against wisc."
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03-28-2008 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
yes, curry's stats are inflated b/c he's by far their best offensive option, but if you're implying that he only scores a lot b/c his conference is weak then you are mistaken.
no i wasnt implying that, only that if you take the other top 10 guards still in the tournament they would all average at the very least, 25 points
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03-28-2008 , 11:25 PM
Texas also primarily plays the zone. The strength of Memphis's D is in the middle. If UT wants to focus from the outside Memphis will need to guard the perimter pretty well. Zone has hampered the drive and go O that Memphis has ran. MSU just didn't have the talent nor the practice of the zone to keep this close.
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03-28-2008 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TronSpecial
nobody scores that much on wisconsin unless they are on fire.
Or they could just beat them on both ends of the court. 49% is not on fire either. They forced your badgers into 12 turnovers and 37% shooting. From what I saw, they either had a terrible game-plan (should have pounded it inside more) or Davidson was actually the team with a great defense that everyone should be talking about.
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03-28-2008 , 11:27 PM
kansas is playing with basically zero enthusiasm right now...nova is shooting too poorly to come back but kansas should be putting it away
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03-28-2008 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EWS87
no i wasnt implying that, only that if you take the other top 10 guards still in the tournament they would all average at the very least, 25 points
ah ok, yeah that's probably true, but i still think you're selling curry short a bit.
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03-28-2008 , 11:30 PM
Guys, they're a 37% three point team that shot 50% against a Wisconsin team that is 11th in the country, allowing only 30% from deep. Couple that with a grand total of 5 turnovers, and you have a team that played a flawless game. They can shoot lights out and still be good.
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03-28-2008 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EWS87
no i wasnt implying that, only that if you take the other top 10 guards still in the tournament they would all average at the very least, 25 points
This is a moronic statement. Curry has a quicker release than pretty much everyone else in the nation and needs almost no space to get the his shot off, he just took the best field goal percentage defensive team in the country for 30 and the best defensive points allowed team in the country for 33. You have no basketball knowledge if you think that his stats are inflated due to weak competition.
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03-28-2008 , 11:35 PM
Billy Packer - "Calipari doesn't like trading of baskets" he says this at the moment MSU is in middle of 16-0 run and stat is up showing "Memphis has missed last 8 shots".
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03-28-2008 , 11:36 PM
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Guys, they're a 37% three point team that shot 50% against a Wisconsin team that is 11th in the country, allowing only 30% from deep. Couple that with a grand total of 5 turnovers, and you have a team that played a flawless game. They can shoot lights out and still be good.
but again citing wisconsin's allowed fg%'s is misleading b/c in this game their d didn't operate at that level-- yeah davidson hit a lot of 3's, but they were getting good/great looks. if wisconsin had put forth one of their usual defensive efforts and davidson had still shot like that then i would buy the "they ran hot" explanation
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03-28-2008 , 11:41 PM
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This is a moronic statement. Curry has a quicker release than pretty much everyone else in the nation and needs almost no space to get the his shot off, he just took the best field goal percentage defensive team in the country for 30 and the best defensive points allowed team in the country for 33. You have no basketball knowledge if you think that his stats are inflated due to weak competition.
so you dont think I can name 10 guards from the sweet 16 teams that would average 25 points or more in the Southern Conference? thats the most moronic statement in this thread if you are making it
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03-28-2008 , 11:42 PM
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but again citing wisconsin's allowed fg%'s is misleading b/c in this game their d didn't operate at that level-- yeah davidson hit a lot of 3's, but they were getting good/great looks. if wisconsin had put forth one of their usual defensive efforts and davidson had still shot like that then i would buy the "they ran hot" explanation
what about that they "ran hot" BECAUSE Wisconsin didnt operate at their normal level
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03-28-2008 , 11:45 PM
Games were a snoozefest tonight....especially the late ones which were never close.
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03-28-2008 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EWS87
so you dont think I can name 10 guards from the sweet 16 teams that would average 25 points or more in the Southern Conference? thats the most moronic statement in this thread if you are making it

How you gonna prove it? They didn't do it for their teams, you can't make me believe that this would be any different. You can say ohh collison would do it, and chalmers would do it yada yada yada. I say that they couldn't. You show me a guy that scored 30 against Maryland, 40 against Gonzaga, 30 against Georgetown, 33 against Wisconsin, not to mention 24 against UNC and 20 against Duke, or at least against comparitive competition. Quit hating on the obvious player of the tournament so far.
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03-28-2008 , 11:47 PM
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what about that they "ran hot" BECAUSE Wisconsin didnt operate at their normal level

very difficult to determine the order of the cause and effect here
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