i should have quoted, i was directing my post at people who were arguing with you when you were clearly talking nonsense.

Brazil got a little lucky that none of the looks Mexico got didn't go in either. Yeah, many were from distance but those are makeable shots for players at this level.

The point being, Mexico definitely earned their point that match.

u mad braj?

I agree that the mexican team was too defensive after they scored but was it really a tactical desition by the manager or just subconscious?

Looms like R16 is the ceiling

I mean, Mexico's chances were largely from afar and Brazil missed some point blank stuff and Ochoa was out of his mind. That seems to be the definition of running a little hot. Brazil wins that game more often than they tie, but it's not like a tie is some egregious outcome or anything so I'll digress.

and that KPB and Muntari and the other dude aren't very intelligent.

rayciss much?

mexico got unlucky that rafa marquez is a cheating scumbag

Robben wasn't even a real threat to score. Another player was there to stop him if he doesn't flop like a puss. Sure its probably a foul but its so ticky tack, the ref should swallow the whistle there and let it go to overtime. Mexico fought hard in this game and didn't deserve that injustice.

I mean anyone that doesn't think that is a little acting is insane. Also when i said the ref decided the game, let the players play. At the end of a close game the refs shouldn't call fouls in the box that aren't blatantly obvious. Players work so hard, let them determine the game in the OT period. Don't give one team an high percentage shot at goal from a pk.

I'm not a soccer guru so honestly I can't say how fair of a penalty that was (maybe it was a good call).

robben obviously sold it and marquez obviously fouled him. it's still 100% a penalty

trying too hard here.

they fought each other and got kicked out of the hotel. that's dumb no matter who you are.

I understand that 99% of this thread is "lolcruzin" therefore trying to make a normal conversation is pointless, regardless of thrle lolcruzn, the fact Robben admits to diving just shows how little you guys know/care about soccer, I get it you guys care about this sport 1 month every 4 years, gl vs Belgium btw, there are losses that hurt, thisbone obviously hurt but idk, I feel better than a year ago. Go beat those overrated Belgiums.

Btw lol ikes I would direct posts towards you but if there is anything worse than living in Mexico that place is called detroit, i cant envy you there

cruizn

i know YOU MAD but its 100% a penalty all day. to think otherwise just furthers the lols.

I like loling at mexico as much as the rest of USA#1, but no way this forums thoughts about that being an obvious 100% penalty would have been the same if this happened yesterday and that was neymar going down.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/wor...against-mexico

might want to be correct next time you break out the condescension

I agree with Clark in that Mexico played much better throughout the Cup than the dumpster fire they were over a big sample in qualifying.

But Brazil had like the 7 best chances in that game, and Mexico created nothing but shots from 25 yards out. They ran so hot to get that point.

They were also completely obviously second best today to anyone that isn't clueless. I thought they were impressive against Croatia though, so there's that.

It's just nice to see it confirmed over and over and over again that we're the best team in CONCACAF now.

They were the better team all the way til they scored their goal. Way worse after. Some of that is tactics but still, gave up a ton of chances.

This World Cup did nothing whatsoever to confirm it though even if its true in general. USA won one game and they got utterly dominated in it. They ran kinda hot to qualify, not saying they didn't deserve it, Portugal and Ghana have themselves to blame. But Mexico's performances this WC have been better than USA's thus far.

There's a game going on right now that might disagree with you. USA has done well this WC, but only beat Ghana in a game where they probably deserved nothing. Costa Rica beating Uruguay and Italy is huge in comparison.

Also, Mexico, pro tip: If you're going to play an old, slow, CB that's late to everything because he's a really good distributor, there's nothing wrong with that.

In the group stages, it might even be optimal. Eventually though, at the business part of the tournament, you're going to run into really good teams. Clumsy, late tackles in the box are not generally the way you win knockout stage games... although in your defense you wouldn't have any way of knowing about that.

Rafa could have easily given away another penalty as well when Robben burned him and surprisingly jumped over his leg instead of taking the easy pen.

Mexico obviously had a very good showing. Miguel Herrera seems like a good coach, I would have liked to see them attack more as they were exciting when they committed men forward but they had to be super organized to cover up the defense against the better sides they faced.

If you are going to use this logic, which is fine, then it's inconsistent to not also point out that we should have beat Portugal also.

Sure, the best way to decide that is in qualifying over large sample sizes, that way short runs of variance and injury problems are less of a factor. Say, 18 months worth of qualifications that test your ability to play at home, on the road, through injuries, squad depth, tactical flexibility, etc. etc.


Plus, head to head results in the games that matter.

In both categories, we consistently beat Mexico every time. The only way they could possibly have some sort of argument at being better than us is if they do better than us at World Cups, go on deep runs where they're a true threat, and once again they haven't. Just like they haven't for the past 25 years.

At some point, to overcome our superiority over a more conclusive sample size in qualifying, you have to point to results and not style points. This isn't figure skating where we care what the Russian judge thinks. It's another World Cup where they couldn't produce more than us. We > Them.

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