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11-01-2009 , 02:39 PM

#201

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

Why lawl at Mir beigng able to beat Fedor???

Arlovski was handling his ars, until he made one cruicial mistale.

What does Arlovski handling Fedor have to do with Mir being able to beat him?

As gehrig said, he has no standup and is inferior to Fedor in every single aspect of the game.

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11-01-2009 , 03:06 PM

#202

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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot

Don't take me at my word, I just write about the sport FFS.

It's common knowledge the UFC pays more than the reported salaries, to the big stars and guys who put on great fights. They're still getting royally ****ed in the ass.

And Machida just made $200k to show at UFC 104. No win bonus.

What's so ****ed up about the Champion's Clause is now that Machida is at the top of his profession, he has zero leverage to demand a raise.

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11-01-2009 , 03:07 PM

#203

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Originally Posted by gehrig

mir has no standup, no wrestling and his BJJ is much worse than fedor

hows he supposed to win

R U serious Mir's BJJ is worse then Feror??
I have to disagree there. Fedor has better stabd up and wrestling but he's getting submitted if fight goes to ground.

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11-01-2009 , 03:10 PM

#204

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I love how Arlovski got the better of 2 exchanges, nothing major and that counts as owning Fedor to some people. Also a massive LOL to Mir being able to beat Fedor, I know I am repeating but seriously how could he win?

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11-01-2009 , 03:11 PM

#205

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

R U serious Mir's BJJ is worse then Feror??
I have to disagree there. Fedor has better stabd up and wrestling but he's getting submitted if fight goes to ground.

You also realize Nog has 3 times the BJJ as Mir and Fedor has fought on the ground with him for like... 30+ minutes spread over 3 fights right...

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11-01-2009 , 03:19 PM

#206

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you realize Mir Beat Nog standing up...

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11-01-2009 , 03:21 PM

#207

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

you realize Mir Beat Nog standing up...

k....... what does that have to do with what I am saying

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11-01-2009 , 03:23 PM

#208

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

R U serious Mir's BJJ is worse then Feror??
I have to disagree there. Fedor has better stabd up and wrestling but he's getting submitted if fight goes to ground.

Ya no, not gonna happen. If Fedor can hang with Nog on the ground pretty easily, then Mir stands no chance at all.

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11-01-2009 , 04:08 PM

#209

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

you realize Mir Beat an extremely unhealthy Nog standing up...

fyp

Even Mir thought he was going to lose to Nog going into that fight... for good reason, he would have had Nog not been ill, out of shape, and injured.

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11-01-2009 , 04:10 PM

#210

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

you realize Mir Beat Nog, who battled a staph infection and knee injury in training and who also is not known for his standup defense in the first place, standing up...

Mir is ****ing garbage.

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11-01-2009 , 04:12 PM

#211

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

Why lawl at Mir beigng able to beat Fedor???

Arlovski was handling his ars, until he made one cruicial mistale.

Watch the fight again.

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11-01-2009 , 04:15 PM

#212

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The only reason Mir is thought of so highly by casual fans is because of Dana hyping him as "The best ground fighter in the HW division" in the run up to ufc 100.

I can think of 5 heavyweights off the top of my head much better than Mir on the ground. (Nogueira, Werdum, Barnett, Gonzaga, Roger Gracie(even though he is only beginning his MMA career))

Also keep in mind Mir lost in a grappling match to Roy Nelson (current TUF cast member).

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11-01-2009 , 04:15 PM

#213

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

4 ppl that could beat Fedor imo. not in any particular order.

1. Brock Lesnar
2. Frank Mir
3. Shane Carwin
4. Cain Velasquez

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11-01-2009 , 04:22 PM

#214

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Originally Posted by PokerFink

He won the fight according to 3 people, but he didn't win the fight according to everyone else.

fixt

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11-01-2009 , 04:43 PM

#215

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Mir handles him on the ground just like Kongo would outwrestle him and Velasquez would outstrike him.

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11-01-2009 , 04:49 PM

#216

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^^^ That sums it up nicely.

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11-01-2009 , 04:59 PM

#217

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Fedor = overrated

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11-01-2009 , 06:12 PM

#218

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

Fedor = overrated

Mir isn't though for sure

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11-01-2009 , 06:15 PM

#219

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Originally Posted by C-Viggity

Fight vs Hong Man Choi accurately sums up Fedor's awesomeness and weirdness

And DO_ is right, his takedowns aren't very good but he's so strong he can literally just pull someone to the ground, even someone the size of Choi, so don't see why he wouldn't be able to do it to Lesnar/anyone

because lesnar is much stronger and also one of the best wrestlers in mma.

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Originally Posted by sylar

he is all hype at this point and even that has fizzled. no real record to speak of. no quality fights. he hasn't fought in a year except on TUF. he was marketable a year ago, but even so, how many events was he going to help sell? one? he'll get destroyed by the first legit opponent and disappear.

tuf ratings when through the goddamn roof when he fought a few weeks ago. i'm the biggest kimbo hater around but you are out of your mind if you don't think he's marketable anymore.

you are confusing your opinion/ the opinion of other smart fans with the opinions of casual fans.

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

Fedor has better stabd up and wrestling but he's getting submitted if fight goes to ground.

lololololol

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11-01-2009 , 06:16 PM

#220

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This is pretty ******ed.

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11-01-2009 , 08:50 PM

#221

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Originally Posted by lawlz a lot

4 ppl that could beat Fedor imo. not in any particular order.

1. Brock Lesnar
2. Frank Mir
3. Shane Carwin
4. Cain Velasquez

We get it, you're trolling and you think it's hilarious.

Stop plz

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11-01-2009 , 09:25 PM

#222

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Originally Posted by STA654

I can think of 5 heavyweights off the top of my head much better than Mir on the ground. (Nogueira, Werdum, Barnett, Gonzaga, Roger Gracie(even though he is only beginning his MMA career))

funny thing is people like to say Mir is the best HW on the ground because of submissions, but they completely ignore wrestling

Mir couldn't do anything to get out of Brock controlling him because he has no wrestling. Randy was able to escape several times because he has great wrestling.

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11-01-2009 , 10:14 PM

#223

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Reading this thread reminded me why there are still good betting lines for most events. Thx fish.

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11-01-2009 , 10:17 PM

#224

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Originally Posted by Artdogg

kind of. pure wrestlers are almost universally garbage off their back. randy is much better than mir in scrambles though, which is probably wrestling related.