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07-04-2021 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by andre006
Look i don't think you going to disappear from the face of the earth, if your expectations for the next 10 years are winning the CL every other year i just think you'll be far from it.
You went from "lolRM they are so poor now, in 2 years time they won't sign anyone and will be forced to play the same old folks" to you won't win the CL every other year lol. The most likely outcome is PSG going irrelevant and still not winning a CL.

Never said anything about winning any CL, not even when RM won 4/5 in years, you won't find a single post of mine saying we're going to win it, ever. You're implying RM will not even be top10 itw and that's hilarious. And why the next 10 years? Why not 5? Or 15?
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Originally Posted by andre006
Your last two galactico signings are Bale and Hazard, our last two galacticos are Neymar and M'Bappé, Maybe Florentino had to sign them at gun point or something it's just funny how you're deflecting everything dumb Florentino did.
What galactico was RM supposed to sign since Bale (and James)? They didn't need anyone/there was no galactico really available. Otoh, look at the other transfers RM made and you'll see how many you would've signed for PSG. Meanwhile, I would've signed just Verratti from PSG, but then Casemiro came along and he's much better anyway.

Neymar and Mbappe was catching lightning in a bottle. Mbappe was RM bound, but made the right decision in the end. He was 18 years old and needed to play every week, especially with the WC being the next year and RM not getting rid of Bale. Can't blame him, made serious bank, too.

Neymar is just a straight up mercenary who cares much more about money and lifestyle. 99% of players of the same calibre ain't leaving Barcelona & Messi to play for PSG, that was a miracle. No wonder he hasn't done sh.t at PSG, he treats football as a hobby. Brasil even won the CA without him.

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Originally Posted by andre006
What if M'Bappé was using Madrid to get the best contract all along? Wouldn't that be beautiful?
"Give me even more money, or I'm going to the team paying me barely half of what I get here." ok

Keep him, who cares. RM will get someone else. But RM will almost always get the likes of Kroos, Modric, Casemiro, Carvajal etc., much more than PSG will. You'll have to do with the likes of Herrera, Bernat, Sarabia, while Verratti and Rabiot wanted to bounce. But don't get me wrong, you will still get the likes of Kroos and Modric, just not in their prime. You're going to get them like you did Ramos, 35 years old and banged up, looking for a last big paycheck.

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Originally Posted by Jabonator
It's great how you can fit into the same post the takes "our stadium is going to generate so much money everybody wants to play for us" and "only mercenarys want to play for your team".
No, I didn't say everybody wants to play for RM, especially not because of money. I'm saying that RM will be far from being burried and beaten by literally everyone in the transfer market. The 22 year old won't get the 15-16m/year that he would've gotten from PSG, but 90% of them will play for RM for 7-8m, which would be more than affordable for RM.
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07-04-2021 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Dembele doesn't get bought if Neymar doesn't get sold. He was the "next big thing" available when Neymar forced his way out, it would just be like getting Haalaand now.
Yeah and that has nothing to do with Utd and Plop getting TV revenue, does is?

Barca and Madrid are still going to cherry pick their players, it doesn't happen often as they'll only buy star players from England - Diarra is the only player off the top of my head from the last 20 years or so that's gone to one from a non 'big' club if you will. Whether it's Beckham 20 years ago, Henry 15, Ronaldo 10, Suarez 5 or Hazard last year - obviously they years are completely wrong but just to spread it out.

Daca is right, it's more to do with City and PSG (and to a lesser extent Chelsea).
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07-04-2021 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rainbowsinthesky
What galactico was RM supposed to sign since Bale (and James)? They didn't need anyone/there was no galactico really available. Otoh, look at the other transfers RM made and you'll see how many you would've signed for PSG. Meanwhile, I would've signed just Verratti from PSG, but then Casemiro came along and he's much better anyway.

Neymar and Mbappe was catching lightning in a bottle. Mbappe was RM bound, but made the right decision in the end. He was 18 years old and needed to play every week, especially with the WC being the next year and RM not getting rid of Bale. Can't blame him, made serious bank, too.

Keep him, who cares. RM will get someone else. But RM will almost always get the likes of Kroos, Modric, Casemiro, Carvajal etc., much more than PSG will. You'll have to do with the likes of Herrera, Bernat, Sarabia, while Verratti and Rabiot wanted to bounce. But don't get me wrong, you will still get the likes of Kroos and Modric, just not in their prime. You're going to get them like you did Ramos, 35 years old and banged up, looking for a last big paycheck.
Florentino promised pogba and mbappe quite explicitly. He got neither. Given the marca propaganda in favor of haaland, he's basically promised haaland. Meanwhile he's got bale and useless guys like Isco on the books and throws money at guys like Jovic. Meanwhile, what happened with Odegaard?

Rebuilding the stadium is making the best of a failure. His plan was to build a new stadium out far, like the Wanda, and reconvert the Bernabéu to luxury apartments but the government wouldn't let him push them around (for once) and in the meantime cerezo got the Wanda which is just plainly nicer than what the Bernabéu was. It pisses him off because Cerezo is even shorter than he is and gets away with giving luxury apartments to politicians. Again, failure to deliver on promises and grandiose plans failing because of hubris and less tolerance for his style of corruption.

They still get good talent because they are Madrid, but the difference with other teams isn't what it was even only ten years ago.
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07-04-2021 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Dembele doesn't get bought if Neymar doesn't get sold. He was the "next big thing" available when Neymar forced his way out, it would just be like getting Haalaand now.
Also it seems pretty clear that under Bartomeu Barca was spending money they didn't have and splashing around more than the usual off the books.
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07-04-2021 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kingweed
Yeah and that has nothing to do with Utd and Plop getting TV revenue, does is?



Barca and Madrid are still going to cherry pick their players, it doesn't happen often as they'll only buy star players from England - Diarra is the only player off the top of my head from the last 20 years or so that's gone to one from a non 'big' club if you will. Whether it's Beckham 20 years ago, Henry 15, Ronaldo 10, Suarez 5 or Hazard last year - obviously they years are completely wrong but just to spread it out.



Daca is right, it's more to do with City and PSG (and to a lesser extent Chelsea).
You're forgetting the great Lee Carsley Thomas Gravesen.
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07-04-2021 , 10:18 AM
trincao to wolverhampton on the jorge mendes carousel. i actually think he had a pretty good last season

i was sceptical because it's a hard to play forward when you dont have much speed. and there are already a couple of good left-footed forwards at barca. but i think he looked good in the minutes he played in the second half of the season. he didnt score much but it's too harsh to judge him just on that
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07-04-2021 , 11:16 AM
Villa apparently upped the bid for Smith-Rowe to...£32.5m!
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07-04-2021 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rainbowsinthesky
"lolRM they are so poor now, in 2 years time they won't sign anyone and will be forced to play the same old folks"
Wtf is even this quote, you blinded by rage my guy

I implied you're far from guaranteed to bink the next Kroos and Modric duo. You struck gold on this one, replacing these two is nowhere near as simple as you think it is.

Barça are still waiting to replace Iniesta/Xavi afaik

Last edited by andre006; 07-04-2021 at 11:43 AM. Reason: 22 yr old studs will play for half their worth at Real, ****in LOL
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07-04-2021 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
Villa apparently upped the bid for Smith-Rowe to...£32.5m!
Main reason I don't want arsenal to sell is I think they are too incompetent to spend the money wisely if say there were to get 40-45(which is the number you prob have to take it seriously)
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07-04-2021 , 06:55 PM
Wp by ESR’s agent.

“Oh, you value him at 3x Villa’s first bid? Then surely you will have no problem paying him as such.”
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07-04-2021 , 07:11 PM


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07-04-2021 , 07:31 PM
30 seems very, very low.
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07-04-2021 , 08:00 PM
Last year of his contract, owner is filthy wealthy but also a notorious nit with zero leverage. This week Rennes's sporting director said they would only listen to 100M offers lol. 30M by the end august seem about right. Camavinga has all the leverage here and seem to be set on joining us, i think Leonardo is rightfully playing the clock here. This oozes of the Hakimi situation with Chelsea wanting but the player preferring going to the best club itw.

There's a world where we get Pogba but have to let go of Camavinga i guess
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07-04-2021 , 08:22 PM
There's been a bit of noise about Pogba to qsg lately. Why wouldn't they go for both though? Oil drying up?
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07-04-2021 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
There's been a bit of noise about Pogba to qsg lately. Why wouldn't they go for both though? Oil drying up?
Should be doable i think, this the summer where's there's a lot of good deals but to fit both we'd still need to trim some fat from what i've read (Sarabia, Kherer, any midfielder not named Verratti).

Last edited by andre006; 07-04-2021 at 08:30 PM. Reason: 2-3 of our 7 GK's lol
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07-04-2021 , 08:37 PM
I'd imagine you have the same problem with your deadwood as United does, that they're all on wages no one else will match.

Still ffp is dead/on hold so shouldn't really be an issue anyway. You'll just have some very well paid cheerleaders that might not be so cheery.
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07-04-2021 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
I'd imagine you have the same problem with your deadwood as United does, that they're all on wages no one else will match.

Still ffp is dead/on hold so shouldn't really be an issue anyway. You'll just have some very well paid cheerleaders that might not be so cheery.
And then we stupidly re-sign them to more expensive contracts. /sigh
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07-04-2021 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KDawg
And then we stupidly re-sign them to more expensive contracts. /sigh
Gotta protect that asset value. I'm sure the big money offers for Jones and Matic will be rolling in any time now.
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07-04-2021 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
I'd imagine you have the same problem with your deadwood as United does, that they're all on wages no one else will match.

Still ffp is dead/on hold so shouldn't really be an issue anyway. You'll just have some very well paid cheerleaders that might not be so cheery.
Yeah basically, we're still paying the Antero Henrique aftermath.

If Leonardo manages to sell Herrera before the deadline i'll run a 100€ freerol itt
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07-04-2021 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
Wp by ESR’s agent.

“Oh, you value him at 3x Villa’s first bid? Then surely you will have no problem paying him as such.”
Ya feel like he's not leaving but just getting good leverage for contract negotiations.

Also Jesus camaviga for 30m? Yet arse gonna pay 50m for Ben white jfc. Literally everyone getting great value buys except arse.
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07-04-2021 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by andre006
Yeah basically, we're still paying the Antero Henrique aftermath.

If Leonardo manages to sell Herrera before the deadline i'll run a 100€ freerol itt

Tbh, I’d happily take Herrera back at United. We never replaced him and were stupid to let him go in the first place
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07-04-2021 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckSauce
Ya feel like he's not leaving but just getting good leverage for contract negotiations.

Also Jesus camaviga for 30m? Yet arse gonna pay 50m for Ben white jfc. Literally everyone getting great value buys except arse.
You cant get an English international under 25 for under 50m unless they're like a backup gk.
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07-05-2021 , 12:01 AM
Ya I mean if you need home grown players buy cheap backups don't pay up for starters.
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07-05-2021 , 12:33 AM
In semi-related news, Leeds signing Harrison for £11m is crazy good business. Granted it's not the same as other signings as he'd been on loan there forever, and I think there was a deal to buy end of 19/20 season and the season extending screwed it up, but still! Got to be worth more than double that if it was an open market
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07-05-2021 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DuckSauce
Ya I mean if you need home grown players buy cheap backups don't pay up for starters.
I'd rather pay the English tax on people you're happy to give minutes too rather than guys who you don't want to see on the pitch.
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