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0.98 - In the last year Nani has 14 goals and 23 assists in 3798 minutes for club and country or 0.88 scorepoints p90m. In the PL he has 8 goals and 19 assists in 2481 minutes or 0.98 scorepoints p90m. Consistent.

I wonder how many goals per game Man Utd scores when Rooney is on the field and when he isn't.

Zabaletta and Sagna don't deserve to win any appeals imo. Not because there is anything dangerous or violent about this stupid stag posing but because, as someone said earlier, it is super gay and also because players really ought to know better by now. How many players do they need to see get sent off for this before they realise it is pretty much an auto red card?

If they wanted the early bath and the 3 game ban that much, they could at least make it for something worthwhile and get a proper punch in.

I'm still a little in shock that de jong got a yellow that didn't involve a flying karate kick, or a roundhouse to the throat

Bruma>>>>>>Mancienne

AINEC!

mancienne isnt even a CB anymore

Yes but you are ignoring that the dip in form for several/most players and the run of poor results all correspond to the leaving of butch, I dont think that the fact that their were some injuries and this has lead to a loss of confidence is anywhere near an adequate explanation for our worst run in 14 years, we have had injuries before.

There is a clear correspondence of events, so one has to examine that. I cant see how the loss of his coaching abilities has this much impact so it must be something else, the only thing I think of is that the sacking is political and that it is due to divisions behind the scenes in the club that are having an effect on the team. FWIW I dont really think this is an adequate explanation either, I am just trying to speculate on the sacking of butch/melt down event correspondence. I dont think it is entire coincidence.

Lets also not forget that the sacking came out of the blue, with no explanations given and he was replaced by a complete no name wtf. All signs of a political sacking. There is little evidence that it was a strategic move with the long term future of the club in mind.

One thing I will add about ACs motivational powers, is that I wonder how effective one can be in this regard without a good grasp of English. ACs english is ok but highly idiosyncratic. So maybe Butch is missed in this regard.

Hopefully the team will be past this moment soon.

bhahaha i love how bakary just raped this idiot COMPLETELY (in the air as well)

Hodgson gonna be away by 3.15

lol I thought the exact same while I was laughing at him.

Was expect to wake up to someone being sacked!

So I see one of the main criticisms of Hodgson is that he's never won anything. So just who do Liverpool fans think they can get as manager who has won something - let's say in the last 10 years so that you can't say "King Kenny"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHYO3...ture=autoshare

MrP, that is absolutely superb.

In other news, it looks like someone has found a use for Adebayor. Why on earth would anyone try and smuggle £3k worth of weed into the country all the way from Togo?

One thing I don't understand how people defending City's tactics/attitude in these games aren't considering, is how much variance is involved in them even getting the draw. They got lucky as hell last night to come away with a point. It would be like someone saying a player who went all in with 72o did the right thing because he busted AK (lol poker analogies ITT). Maybe more like someone stalling on the bubble and luckily doubling up with 2BBs with the worst of it to min cash? Man I love these.

There is a huge difference between something like what Mourinho did, essentially get the result required in the only way he would possibly ever get it through tactical defensive mastery, and a complete lack of even attempting to win a game and luckboxing draws. A point a game is relegation form. 3 points off a main rival is a large swing. You have spent £500m on players yet you still can't even attempt to get 3 points?

Who is more likely to get at least a point. United playing an aggressive counter attacking game at the Emirates or City parking the bus and crossing fingers? The 1st obv ainec. So are City that incapable of playing the kind of football that could even give them a chance to beat Arsenal despite all the money spent? Is that what they are admitting? Chelsea got beaten by Arsenal and got pilloried yet because of the result only some are unwilling to criticize City for the same thing even though they should have been beaten even more comfortably than Chelsea. This is a poker forum lets try not to be so results orientated.

Avram Grant roaring in on the outside in the sack race

My money's on Roy but its gonna be an epic race.

It has to be the first time he has roared all season.

Indeed, I think CA is going to have to launch a late spurt by ******** on Roman's desk or shagging his wife to pip him.

I think you are way under estimating how much more likely City are to lose and get no points if they open up and go for the win and yes I think they are admitting that they have spent 500M and dont have the ability to go for 3 points at the Emirates, because that is pretty clear. So all in all I think they played the percentages. Man city playing a counter attacking style=! MU playing a counter attacking style.

I did not want to make the United countering vs City countering comparison. Simply the United countering vs the way City played comparison.

Again you are not considering how lucky they were to draw. They couldn't have played in a way more likely to lose and get 0 points. Not only is 3 points a huge swing and very much worth going for, but by attempting to win they would be far more likely to draw also. To get a point this way they HAVE to get a clean sheet against an Arsenal they are conceding 5 or 6 + good goalscoring chances to. Even Joe Hart isn't that good.

That's pretty result oriented. Most of the time City will probably do a better job defending.

Give them credit for playing Tevez though. Least they played a striker.

True for the most part but the guy said he's a better option than the rest of the younger guys who are on the bench,well he's not a better option than any of Bruma,PVA or Josh.

There's a reason he's been on loan for 3 years,he'll never make it at the club.

Liverpool facing United at the weekend in the cup might be saving Hodgson for now.

They don't have a chance in hell of getting a result there so might as well wait and let Hodgson be the fall guy for that rather than say getting rid now,bringing Dalglish or whoever in and have them staring a defeat against the club's biggest rivals in the face as their first game.