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08-09-2016 , 01:52 PM
Kone as well
08-09-2016 , 02:03 PM
Think Williams is fine. Some of the stat heads have Williams are well rated. I haven't watched enough to comment but seems like a decent stop gap. Bolasie, who I love, seems redundant with the personal everton already have unless they are going to be lining up different then I think
08-09-2016 , 02:13 PM
12 million for a 32 year old CB is pretty lol even in this market
08-09-2016 , 02:15 PM
So who's the starting CB's for Everton from Williams, Kone, Funes Mori, Jagielka?
08-09-2016 , 02:24 PM
Speaking of FPL anyone ever done this? http://rotopremierleague.com/

Any interest in doing it here?
08-09-2016 , 02:36 PM
still hasnt properly sunk in that leicester won the league last year. wtf
08-09-2016 , 02:59 PM
Defintely want some more of Chelsea > Arsenal

Or Hazard vs (pretty much any attacking mid in the prem)

Last edited by Yippee ki-yay; 08-09-2016 at 03:07 PM.
08-09-2016 , 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I have Chelsea not finishing in the top 4 but winning the FA Cup. I think Conte will have to adjust to week to week managing but is great to just win one game.
I'll take some action on Chelsea vs Arse or Chelsea to finish top 4.
08-10-2016 , 06:08 AM
Prediction Time:
1. City
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Liverpool
5. Spurs
6. Utd
7. Leicester
8. Stoke
9. Southampton
10. West Ham
11. Everton
12. Bournemouth
13. Palace
14. Swansea
15. Sunderland
16. Wba
17. Watford
18. Burnley
19. Boro
20. Hull

Top scorer Aguero
POTY PHIL
YPOTY Martial
1st manager sacked Watford guy

Last edited by NicReynolds; 08-10-2016 at 06:24 AM.
08-10-2016 , 06:33 AM
listening to double pivot podcast and theyre saying palace cant play cabaye again nearly every game given how damaging he was. was he really that bad?!! i didnt know he was that bad? was this common knowledge? i thought he was supposed to be a real coup for palace?
08-10-2016 , 06:34 AM
Sean Dyche gets it.

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Sean Dyche believes English managers are unfairly maligned by comparison to their foreign counterparts and claims he would have been branded a “dinosaur” and “clueless” for employing some of the same methods as overseas coaches in the Premier League.

The Burnley manager pinpointed the flattering appraisal of the changes introduced by Antonio Conte and Pep Guardiola at Chelsea and Manchester City respectively this summer as fresh evidence of how foreign coaches are lauded as innovators while their English peers can be looked down upon for a similar approach.

Dyche was eager to stress that he had “no problem” with foreign managers in English football and hailed some of their “amazing” achievements but his remarks echo past complaints by Sam Allardyce, the new England manager, who once claimed he would have been given a job at a top four club if his surname was “Allardici”.

“There is a thirst for foreign coaches who are always tactical geniuses,” Dyche said. “There’s still a thirst from the populous for foreign managers and foreign players. They’re a bit more snazzy – let’s see what this Belgian manager or this Argentine manager can do.

“It seems to me it’s still there, it has been for a number of years, and I don’t think it’s radically changing.

“Antonio Conte came in at Chelsea and he got commended for bringing a hard, fast, new leadership to Chelsea, which involved doing 800-metre runs, 400m runs and 200m runs.

“Come to my training and see Sean Dyche doing that and you’d say, ‘Dinosaur, a young English dinosaur manager, hasn’t got a clue’. So is it perception or is it fact? I have no problem with it. It’s the reality I say. Perception is radically different to what is going on with young English managers.

“Conte I thought was interesting because if you saw us doing that you’d say we’re running them round in circles. At Chelsea under Conte, everyone thinks it’s amazing – they’re working really hard, like it’s incredible.”

Dyche, whose Burnley team face Swansea City in their first game back in the Premier League on Saturday, also referenced Guardiola’s ban on pizza at the Etihad Stadium.

“I just saw [Gaël] Clichy [the City defender] talking about the diet that Pep has brought in – he’s stopped pizza, he’s a genius already in my view,” he said, light-heartedly.

“The year before [Claudio] Ranieri [the Leicester City manager] was adding pizza. Two geniuses – one adding pizza, one taking it away.

“I’m being flippant but I’m being serious as well. That is the misperception. Clichy was talking about how this new diet was amazing, saying, ‘We don’t eat junk food’. “We’ve been doing that since I got here [at Burnley]. I did it at Watford, so are other English managers – ‘Here are the dieticians, this is what we do, we’ve sorted a chef out and he’s going to support you, we’ve got the supplements and we’re going to have a fluid consultant in’. But because I’m Sean Dyche you wouldn’t be interested. It’s ‘Go on Pep, tell us about your pizzas’.”

Dyche believes the differing reaction to foreign managers who play 4-4-2 compared to English ones is another case in point.

“They questioned me for playing a 4-4-2 and then everyone played it last year and it was ‘amazing Ranieri, tactical genius’,” Dyche said.

“[Jürgen] Klopp came in [at Liverpool] and played a sort of 4-4-2 and let’s run really hard and press, people thought it was incredible. Wasn’t Sean Dyche doing that three years ago when he got here?

“It doesn’t matter to me personally. I think [Mauricio] Pochettino [at Tottenham Hotspur] is fantastic. I really enjoy his company. [Arsène] Wenger [at Arsenal], personally, was very good with me.

“There’s no problem with me and foreign managers, but this is my view on it. Generally there is still this edge towards foreign coaches.

“Why do you buy a branded pair of jeans rather than the other pair? Because you think they’re better, but they might not be. I think there’s a bit of that, sometimes it’s just a bigger name is a bigger name.”
08-10-2016 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Consty
Sean Dyche gets it.


It'll be a sad say when he leaves my club, but he's going to go to the very top.
08-10-2016 , 06:42 AM
sean dyche really does come across as a top bloke tbh. that press conference about club spending within its means was one of the best conferences i seen
08-10-2016 , 06:53 AM
rubbish hair though
08-10-2016 , 06:58 AM
I was disappointed to see him talking about himself in the third person though.

I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, HE WENT DOWN IN MY ESTIMATION WHEN HE SAID THAT.
08-10-2016 , 07:00 AM
Ok my predication time:
Citeh
United
Arse
Chelsea

Spurs
Pool

West Ham
Leicester
Southampton
Everton
Stoke

Boro
Palace
Bournemouth
Swansea
Sunderland
West Brom

Burnley
Watford
Hull

Top scorer Aguero
POTY Augero
YPOTY Pogba
First Manager sacked: Pulis

Obv the middle two bits are really tough to predict the order and will likely only be separated by a few points by the end.

Last edited by joejoe1337; 08-10-2016 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Realised it's pretty unlikely the City win, Augero is top scorer and he doesn't win POTY
08-10-2016 , 07:12 AM
Prediction :
1. Arsenal
2. City
3. United
4. Spurs
5. Chelsea
6. Pool
7. Leicester
8. Everton
9. West Ham
10. Bournemouth
11. Stoke
12. Palace
13. Soton
14. WBA
15. Burnley
16. Sunderland
17. Swansea
18. Boro
19. Watford
20. Hull

Top scorer Aguero
POTY Ozil
YPOTY Martial
1st manager sacked Swansea
08-10-2016 , 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 100zAndUp
listening to double pivot podcast and theyre saying palace cant play cabaye again nearly every game given how damaging he was. was he really that bad?!! i didnt know he was that bad? was this common knowledge? i thought he was supposed to be a real coup for palace?
I was also surprised to hear one of them say that but they did clarify later that they just wanted him ahead of two other central midfielders.

I guess they want Palace to go full Pardew and the weird central midfield is kind of like the football-elements that Pardew always talk about only to resort to playing long-ball and/or exclusive rushing-counters down the wing the entire time.

I definitely disagreed with Pardew immediately phasing Jedinak out last season, who had been awesome for them previously. Then they ran really good without him and he didn't really become part of the team until much later during their complete stagnation.
08-10-2016 , 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Consty
So who's the starting CB's for Everton from Williams, Kone, Funes Mori, Jagielka?
Yeah that is going to be interesting. At first I didn't really rate him but I think Funes Mori could be really good somewhere. At Everton also if he calms down a bit. He is one gifted centreback.

I liked Kone for Sunderland though and Williams I'm sure isn't bought for the bench.

Last edited by Bjørn; 08-10-2016 at 08:00 AM.
08-10-2016 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjørn
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which one you think is more knowledgable of the two? geeky voice one or the other? no idea which is which as they both have same first name
08-10-2016 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 100zAndUp
(y).

which one you think is more knowledgable of the two? geeky voice one or the other? no idea which is which as they both have same first name
I like Caley. He goes a lot more beyond XG than maybe you would expect and successfully add contexts a lot of the time which seems very conscious of doing. I agree with him a lot. The other Mike is good at bringing up interesting things and angles that aren't obvious and already talked about all the time. FWIW I just disagree completely with his takes sometimes but that's not a bad thing. He does a good job of provoking thoughts but maybe Caley is better at consistently sticking to what he is confident that he really knows instead of heading down dubious paths. And again your mainstream football journalists or pundits in other podcasts or on tv are much worse so I can't really complain that much.

Then compared to the Statsbomb podcast where the host, who has improved to be fair, almost contributes absolutely nothing except vaguely referencing numbers and in one episode had basically no idea who Mkhitaryan was or had never seen much of ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC let alone a whole host of other famous players brought up. That's just a little bit hopeless.

Last edited by Bjørn; 08-10-2016 at 08:22 AM.
08-10-2016 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tall Paul
FPL Head to Head League

£10 entry fee to be paid to Claret1 on Stars or PM for Paypal info. PM me once paid for the league code.

Prizes to be confirmed once we know how many entries there are. I suggest:
less than 10 entries: winner take all
10-20 entries: 1st 70%; 2nd 30%
More than 20: 1st 65%; 2nd 25%; 3rd 10%
Bump

Just 7 confirmed entries so far
08-10-2016 , 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjørn
I was also surprised to hear one of them say that but they did clarify later that they just wanted him ahead of two other central midfielders.

I guess they want Palace to go full Pardew and the weird central midfield is kind of like the football-elements that Pardew always talk about only to resort to playing long-ball and/or exclusive rushing-counters down the wing the entire time.

I definitely disagreed with Pardew immediately phasing Jedinak out last season, who had been awesome for them previously. Then they ran really good without him and he didn't really become part of the team until much later during their complete stagnation.
I think several of the stats guys identified that you could drive a bus through Palace's midfield and that it was so easy to get in behind their midfield line. I imagine that's where some of the Cabaye hate comes in and the calls to reintroduce Jedinak in some capacity.
08-10-2016 , 08:51 AM
Baids and/or kevin,

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08-10-2016 , 09:24 AM
*Spoiler* League table end of May 2017 *Spoiler*

1. Chelsea
2. City
3. Utd
4. Lads its
5. Arsene
6. Plop
7. Sthampton
8. Wham
9. Laychester
10. Everton
11. Stoak
12. Bournemouth
13. Brom
14. Palace
15. Boro
16. Sunderland
17. Burnley
18. Swansea
19. Watford
20. Hull

Top scorer: Aguero
POTY: Eton Azart
YPOTY: Pogbaa (Lukaku if he joins Chelsea)
1st manager sacked: Swansea bloke

Last edited by S.K; 08-10-2016 at 09:35 AM.

      
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