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07-14-2019 , 02:55 PM

#10601

xander biscuits

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Originally Posted by TheMVP

Yes but it's extremely unlikely that there's going to be more than 1 or 2 super overs. The chance of anything crazy like 5 is so remote to not even worry about.

enough is enough at some point.

The whole point of the super over is that it ends the game.

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07-14-2019 , 02:56 PM

#10602

BOIDS

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that moment should serve archer well going forward, would hate to have him be the fall guy (not that he would've been criticized but still a ****ty situation to blow it there)

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07-14-2019 , 02:56 PM

#10603

Booker Wolfbox

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

why not. chance its a tie after an over is quite small (15%ish?), extremely unlikely to have to do it more than once

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i dont really mind the variancefest ending, its not unfair to either team, they shoulda scored 1 more run during their 300 opportunities

should have conceded one fewer run

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07-14-2019 , 02:58 PM

#10604

Booker Wolfbox

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Compared to most boundaries penalty kicks look like a genius way to settle a tied championship

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07-14-2019 , 02:59 PM

#10605

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

you can't change the entire fielding teams around every over again and again.

You've got to have a predetermined number of overs.

I don't see what the big deal is with 1 over.

Well you just make the team that batted second in the super over bat first in the second

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07-14-2019 , 03:00 PM

#10606

BOIDS

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reminds me of fans bitching when they go out on penos. m8 u had 90+30 minutes to win the game and failed, you dont deserve better than a randoflip

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07-14-2019 , 03:02 PM

#10607

xander biscuits

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Originally Posted by sixfour

Well you just make the team that batted second in the super over bat first in the second

that works

I'm now sold on the idea!

but I'm not bothered about there only being 1 super over and the tie being determined by boundaries (and not just because it favoured England this time)

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07-14-2019 , 03:02 PM

#10608

Hackdeath

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Originally Posted by arjun13

Remember how New Zealand turned down a single of the last ball of their innings? I've always said how it's the stupidest thing ever. Why would you turn down a risk free attempt at a run?

This happens in >95% of games, agree so ridiculous to not take the freeroll. Only thing it does is damage batting average, but if you're playing for the team this shouldn't matter.

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07-14-2019 , 03:05 PM

#10609

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I think Santner ducking the delivery is crazier than them not running, although obviously both aspects were terrible.

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07-14-2019 , 03:06 PM

#10610

Falconhoof

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England chase first and tie: game goes to a tie breaker

Nz then chase in tie breaker and tie: they lose

Pretty messed up

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07-14-2019 , 03:07 PM

#10611

BOIDS

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Originally Posted by Willd

I think Santner ducking the delivery is crazier than them not running

guess he was 'dialled in' to a yorker, and when it didnt arrive instincts just took over

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07-14-2019 , 03:11 PM

#10612

xander biscuits

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Originally Posted by Falconhoof

England chase first and tie: game goes to a tie breaker

Nz then chase in tie breaker and tie: they lose

Pretty messed up

how do you feel about someone going out of a football tournament on away goals?

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07-14-2019 , 03:12 PM

#10613

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I reckon my life expectancy has dropped at least a year after watching that. Just insane.

Re the tie-break - I kind of assumed that it was decided by who finished higher in the group (like Ox v SA in 1999?). That would be much fairer imo.

Anyway, GET IN ENGLAND!

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07-14-2019 , 03:13 PM

#10614

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

choas theory dictates that it's not as simple as that.

If you change the target then it affects how England chase the runs in the late overs

I'm not saying the entire game would have played out the same. I am just saying, there is no downside and there is upside. It is moronic.

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07-14-2019 , 03:14 PM

#10615

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Originally Posted by DTD

Re the tie-break - I kind of assumed that it was decided by who finished higher in the group (like Ox v SA in 1999?). That would be much fairer imo.

then England still wins and everyone moans that NZ lost the world cup because they got a game rained off.

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07-14-2019 , 03:14 PM

#10616

btc

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

reminds me of fans bitching when they go out on penos. m8 u had 90+30 minutes to win the game and failed, you dont deserve better than a randoflip

Not like that at all though. It's like counting up sog to determine the winner. Who cares, its tied.

Whichever team has the cleanest uniforms wins!

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07-14-2019 , 03:17 PM

#10617

xander biscuits

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Originally Posted by arjun13

I'm not saying the entire game would have played out the same. I am just saying, there is no downside and there is upside. It is moronic.

mistakes happen. He's a bowler and he missed out on a potential run as a batsman.

I'm sure he realised after the fact, but in the heat of the moment he didn't run.

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07-14-2019 , 03:17 PM

#10618

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

then England still wins and everyone moans that NZ lost the world cup because they got a game rained off.

You'd have to be a pretty optimistic Kiwi to reckon on beating India by 450 runs though.

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07-14-2019 , 03:19 PM

#10619

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It would have been odds against getting the bye though? But it sure was weird to duck and not just run anyway.

That first ball of the Archer super over looked exactly on the line to me. Not sure if that's supposed to be a wide or not tbh.

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07-14-2019 , 03:19 PM

#10620

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I truly think ICC thought there was no way this would happen in a final of major event so they didn’t bother to change the rules. Otherwise makes no sense since the more drama = better it is for cricket and ICC

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07-14-2019 , 03:20 PM

#10621

BOIDS

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Originally Posted by btc

Not like that at all though. It's like counting up sog to determine the winner. Who cares, its tied.

Whichever team has the cleanest uniforms wins!

yea i agree the tiebreaker is awful, should keep super-overing it until someone wins

the concept of the super over to decide things is fine tho

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07-14-2019 , 03:21 PM

#10622

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Originally Posted by DTD

You'd have to be a pretty optimistic Kiwi to reckon on beating India by 450 runs though.

wouldn't stop people moaning about it though.

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07-14-2019 , 03:28 PM

#10623

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

mistakes happen. He's a bowler and he missed out on a potential run as a batsman.

I'm sure he realised after the fact, but in the heat of the moment he didn't run.

Well sure, but this happens every single innings and is stupid. I actually made a comment to someone at work about it last week. Its not a one off