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02-28-2011 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
In 4 flaming but....

Seen all this talk about a draft, not entirely sure what's going on though. I obviously get the idea that it's picking some sort of all-time great elite team, but then what? Do you have to pick players nobody else has, or can we all pick, say, Tendulkar as our opening batsman? If you have to pick uniquely, how do you pick, and in what order? Does it mean we all have to be around at the same time for several hours to do the picking? At the end of it, do we somehow compare the teams, and does someone win? If so, how?

If someone can explain this I'll probably have a crack at it.
-Basically you get X teams together, and you each select unique teams.
-Once drafted, a player is off the table for the other owners.
-Typically each owner has a set number of hours (4-6ish?) to make their pick, or else they are skipped.
-In order of fairness (at least in a "reverse snake" draft), the person who gets the first pick in the first round gets the last pick in the second round. So if there were four teams, the order would go: 1,2,3,4,4,3,2,1,1,2,3,4 etc.
-If the draft actually makes it to completion, i suppose it could be voted on/judged by everyone, but it's not a given that it would even finish.

This is a sick deep draft, esp. if there are only 10 owners.

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-Also, perhaps the biggest responsibility of the team owner is to provide a good, solid write-up to explain/defend your pick. Lots of pictures/analysis makes a good draft, simply saying "I select Sachin Tendulkar" is boring.

Last edited by zdye724; 02-28-2011 at 03:46 PM.
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02-28-2011 , 04:00 PM
yup, good post zyde. Let's get a few more and I'll start the thread. More is better, since it will keep the draft alive longer as some people will lose interest as it progresses
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02-28-2011 , 05:23 PM
OK, sounds like it could be INteresting.
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02-28-2011 , 06:11 PM
Ok Im in for an ODI draft.

Id prefer to co own with someone since im on at weird times but we dont really have enough people for that.
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02-28-2011 , 07:05 PM
I think 12 hours is a fair time, we'll all get time to check within that time frame an we'll all propbably be done before the time limit.

Be sure to pm whoever is after you though, or pm someone your pick if its nearly your turn but you've gotta run.
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02-28-2011 , 07:22 PM
Since this draft is going to involve people all over the world, we should be as flexible as possible with the times. I think so long as we can get everyone a pick each day, it will work out. Perhaps a 4-6 hour time limit, with each person getting their own "dead" time?

Badminton
Isura
Andy
Jameee
Ash
zdye
exec
TT
Brickie

That's nine, i think 10-12 is a good number.
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02-28-2011 , 07:37 PM
i'll be in, as posted in the epl thread
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02-28-2011 , 08:10 PM
12 imo is optimal. Also, wrt to the draft, make sure some of the rules such as talking about undrafteds is well known before we start...
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03-01-2011 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Since this draft is going to involve people all over the world, we should be as flexible as possible with the times. I think so long as we can get everyone a pick each day, it will work out. Perhaps a 4-6 hour time limit, with each person getting their own "dead" time?

Badminton
Isura
Andy
Jameee
Ash
zdye
exec
TT
Brickie

That's nine, i think 10-12 is a good number.
what does this "draft" entail exactly? excuse my ignorance
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03-01-2011 , 12:33 AM
Basically you try to pick the best ODI team possible. The draft restricts your choices since others could snipe players you want to pick so you have to decide which player to take in early rounds and which player would be availible in later rounds.

Ultimately your team should be a balanced ODI team with bowlers capable of bowling 50 overs and batsmen capable of handling all conditions.
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03-01-2011 , 12:56 AM
picking an XI, 12 or squad of 15?
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03-01-2011 , 01:04 AM
I'd say 12 is ideal, that way you have some flexibility while picking the bowlers..
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03-01-2011 , 03:21 AM
12 teams, 12 players for a squad sounds like a good deal to me. Looks like we need two more owners, hopefully we can start by thursday?

Also, Kenya is about to take a beating. Lankans gonna take out their frustrations in a big, but ultimately meaningless fashion.
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03-01-2011 , 06:06 AM
Tbh I'd rather do 11man team. Will force you to have a more precise line up + its one less round. If people disagree I'm happy with 12.

We currently have 10 (including 64) I think we're good to go, don't mind waiting tho.
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03-01-2011 , 06:13 AM
I'd prefer to wait a bit if possible, still involved in the football draft right now
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03-01-2011 , 08:18 AM
2 hattricks in 2 days
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03-01-2011 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by exec771
Ultimately your team should be a balanced ODI team with bowlers capable of bowling 50 overs
I think bowlers should be restricted to 10 overs maximum.


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Originally Posted by zdye724
12 teams, 12 players
Yes!!! This will show the haters that at least 144 people in history have played the game of cricket.
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03-01-2011 , 10:11 AM
Looks like another match fixing allegation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...ka/9410128.stm
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03-01-2011 , 10:38 AM
Meh, These seem like bull **** to me. Mahela is the last player I'd expect to be involved in such activites but evem more importantly

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Mahinda Abeysundara, said a businessman had bet about 18,000 dollars on a Pakistan victory
I don't think this kind of money is capable of influencing a WC game in this century.

I think the bottom line is that SL lost because thier batting sucks under pressure.
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03-01-2011 , 11:12 AM
You never know, when it comes to judging the "type". I remember a long radio interview with Bob Wolmer, just as the Cronje scandal was emerging, and he swore blind Cronje was not the type. Now it seems like he would have done anything to save/gain a few dollars.

It does seem crazy though. Even if he was the type, which I very much doubt also, that kind of money would need to be 100 times more to even be a question. I mean, how much could one or two players influence a match when you only stand to gain $18k. It's like a day's pay in the IPL.
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03-01-2011 , 12:16 PM
Oh wow, I just saw the Ian Bell "lbw" from Sunday's match on the Sky highlights show. I didn't see it during the game because I was also running a coaching session on skype, and only half keeping an eye on the game at that moment, but wow. UDRS is failing so hard it's unbelievable.

Though personally I think that one is so plumb should be given first time by the umpire.

UDRS is so awful in almost every aspect of its implementation.
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03-01-2011 , 12:24 PM
I really don't see that view to be honest. Obviously it's not perfect and needs tweaking, but it worked superbly well during the Ashes and generally fairly well in the WC (though it would be better with hot-spot and the snicko). No matter how badly it's implemented we get fewer bad decisions so if it's failing then it's failing at only being a fair bit better than nothing rather than being a lot better.
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03-01-2011 , 01:24 PM
Great article on maybe the most high pressured contest in the history of sports: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/501138.html

That innings by Sachin was probably his best considering the stakes and the stage.
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03-01-2011 , 01:37 PM
In general I think the UDRS is a good thing, the ashes being an example of how it can be used very well, but it does require having all the necessary technology available to be most effective. Also the seemingly arbitrary cutoffs for when the evidence isn't enough is pretty stupid too, the Bell decision being an obvious example.

I could understand a system where the further down the wicket a batsman was the more clear the decision would have to be but having a cut off where if the batsman is x distance down the wicket the decision cannot be overturned is ridiculous. Simply make the amount of the ball that has to hit the stumps a function of how far the ball had to travel. If someone gets hit by a yorker half way back in the crease and 1/2 of the ball would be hitting the stump that should obviously be given out and similarly if hawkeye shows the ball hitting the middle of middle then it should be out even if the batsman is 4 or 5m out of his crease.
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03-01-2011 , 01:54 PM
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Great article on maybe the most high pressured contest in the history of sports: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/501138.html

That innings by Sachin was probably his best considering the stakes and the stage.
The bolded part is probably an exaggeration .

India pakistan contests are ridiculous though. My mom, sister and all my female cousins follow India Pak contests when normally they couldn't give a **** about cricket even if it's the World cup.

My best Indo Pak cricket memory is from 2004 when I was studying in the US. We were on spring break and India was touring Pakistan. A friend of mine who was living off campus pitched in with his roommates and bought the $300 dish subscription package for the series.

At the time of the first one day game about 70 students were crammed in the tiny living room of his condo watching the game. India was batting well and Dravid was on his way to making a 100. He inside edged a ball onto his stumps and got bowled out for 99. The room went quiet and one kid yelled "yea!!". That's when the rest of the room realised he was pakistani and in an instant he had 70 eyes staring him down lol. He stayed quiet for the rest of the game

It was a pretty awesome series.
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