Holy **** i posted about this guy itt omfg

http://m.deadspin.com/5888765/the-ch...w-hes-retiring

1. Chargers obv

Case Closed still putting on a clinic of stupidity itt. A complex vocabulary is confusing me... thank you dictionary.com

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We've known the risks, we've always known the risks. This is no new development. Concussions are bad. Let us make the decisions.

Plastic helmets are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They need to switch to boxing headgear. The type used in amateur boxing and in training.

Clearly g nasty never had that bonding experience with baseball. Probably because of repeated beatdowns at the hands of Allen Park.

Anything specific you want to point to that is stupid? All I am saying is that football should be like boxing. If you want to bash your head for someone else's enjoyment that's fine. But don't make public schools pay for it.

lol yeah right I was like 5-2 vs Allen Park in my Varsity career.

#checkthestats

well, given allen park/downriver/south detroit is a ghetto, and baseball is a rich kids sport, i find your record unimpressive.

2 True stories about Kennedy vs Allen Park baseball battles.

Both take place @ Steve Avery Field, Taylor MI

Story 1. Wild pitch, AP runner on 3rd. He attempts to score and our catcher flips the ball to our pitcher in time for the out. The pussy psycho kid grabs a handful of dirt and throws it into our pitchers face and coaches have to stop our team from getting to the little pussy. He later calls out coach crying like the pussy he is apologizing.

Story 2. G10 hits a line drive about 5 steps to the LF right in a 2-2 game 2 outs runner on 2nd 6th inning. He gets there just in time except....he ball hits off his glove lol. Our younger coach said "Oh he's killing himself tonight for sure." Loud enough so that he could hear after the inning, and we all laughed at him.

Basically we just took giant ****s on Allen Park. The only time I actually remember them beating us was in the News Herald tourny championship game, and that was because we agreed not to pitch our ace as we had a big conf. game the following monday. We actually played a bunch of reserved in the championship game and lost like 11-4.

Evidence?

Well, he isnt just saying "different," he is saying different and better, and more, and therefore worth the risks, and no other sport could substitute and provide the same.

Have you ever brought up the risks? How did he react?

Dismissed them as unlikely, long-term, hard to quantify. TOTALLY unlike the risks associated with each car trip unbelted.

Well, yeah, no other sport could substitute and provide the identical experience.

You're clearly a smart dude, so you must see why statistical evidence of the risks of playing football is much easier to come by than statistical evidence of the benefits, right? Even if both are tangible?

When the evidence of harm is so severe and apparent, that burden to prove the benefits above and beyond what safer sports can provide seems pretty fair.

Can you (or anyone) explain what this is supposed to mean? I know virtually nothing about boxing, but I've heard this type of comment before. All I know about boxing is that people still do it for a lot of money. So, what changed about boxing?

No one gives a **** about it

But that can't be the argument that is being made, can it? "Football is going to go the way of boxing" is supposed to mean that people will still play football, but no one will give a **** about it. That doesn't make sense. As long as it is played, people will watch.

this is a great post. first-hand experience of regular and "elite" pee wee ball. I started playing when I was 10 and played through college. I'm pretty sure I suffered 2-3 concussions in hs and one in college. it's a pretty distinct feeling when your brain says, "WTF?"

there should not be 'traveling' pee wee football, I agree, but if you wait until kids are big enough to generate some real speed (while also being bigger) before they learn proper technique, the results would be worse imo.

Yes, I can see that. Which is why I hold the position that I do. I think the evidence against football is so overwhelming and convincing, that essentially no amount of anecdotal evidence, even my own personal anecdotal evidence, would be sufficient. So, in the absence of ACTUAL evidence...

pretty sure boy scouts, minus the anal rape, is just as goot as fooseball

edit: oh yeah, jerry sandusky. nvm. lolfo0tball

i don't think in my 8 years of pop-warner we ever had an instance of a concussion, on my team or the other. that's from the under 65s to the 145s. the one year i played in highschool we had maybe 3-4 in a season. i'd say the risk probably increases signifgantly with the forces being driven (and thus sage), rather than it decreasing with age due to more rational tackling (i'd argue it's the opposite due to entrenched ways we value tackling/hitting in football.)

when you're little in pop warner it's sort of disgusting how they reward good hits though, and while you can't really get injured at that level, it sets a precedent up for when you play later on when you can seriously get ****ed up. and obv the media glorifies big hits and whatnot.

i remember every season the mark of who the biggest badass on the team when you were little was the kid who had the most/different colored marks on his helmet (implying he was out trucking kids with his head). yeah they obv teach you how to tackle and whatever, but i think alot of the ****** dads who coach young kids have this idea that there needs to be a "pop" when you tackle (helmet hitting helmet) which is really bad, and how you open the door for these sorts of injuries.

Violence isn't why no one cares about boxing. It's about the fact that Lewis took the heavyweight title to Europe 13 years ago and the US hasn't had a legitimate contender for it since(Rahman for a few months but that's it). If the Klitschkos from the Ukraine were the Kelly's from Pittsburgh boxing would have huge popularity.

Correct. I don't dislike boxing because the two guys who would probably be homeless otherwise are beating each other's brains in, I dislike it because if I ask "who's the current lightweight champion?" you can legitimately name 16 people.

lol i'm curious as to what everyone against football existing would like to do with it. Just eliminate it?

I'm also curious as to the evidence of harm being so severe and apparent... and any sort of repeated helmet to helmet contact being so damaging; how do you explain the vast majority of players that have somehow survived the game without any medical condition?