I remember nothing about the formation of the state of West Virginia and I clearly am too dense to get the point you are trying to make. Are you implying that the SEC didn't want to invite a "hillbilly" state school into the conference? I think that the ship sailed on that issue about 50 years ago.

I like how the UEFA Champion's League works in soccer when the # of participants for each league is determined by how they've performed in the UCL in recent years.

In CFB, if you had a 16 team playoff and were handing out spots, you could take the top 5 SEC teams, top 4 Pac-12, 1-2 each from Big 12, ACC, and Big, and then 1-2 non-AQs. Maybe in 5 years the ACC would move up to 4-5 spots if their proficiency in churning out NFL players ever translates into college success.

Things change too quickly in CFB for this to be terribly useful. You have players who are functionally playing 2 years on average, and changing considerably even during that time.

The problem is that when people state the simple fact "The SEC is the best football conference"

what the SEC haters hear being said is

"The SEC is by far the best conference and every SEC team is great and every SEC team would kill almost any opponent and all other conferences and teams suck"

Nobody sane says that, and when it is said it's normally intentional trolling.

You are too used to being around sane people. The vast majority of fans are ignorant as hell. I am running into OSU fans who are trying to use dubious statistics to "prove" the SEC isn't even the toughest conference. Homers are ******ed.

Though, the SEC chant is pretty damn annoying, and the Auburn AD saying its unamerican or whatever dumbass thing he says is what pisses people off. There's lobbying, and there's that kind of nonsense.

This is really pretty sad dude. smdh

(West Virginia is the part of the Virginia that seceded back into the Union during the Civil War)

Auburn has the worst AD in the country. He's a total joke and everyone knows it.

http://www.change.org/petitions/ncaa...iron-bowl-2013

It's been a long time since I given much thought to the Civil War. I guess that I should have remembered that.

I take it that you are arguing that the SEC failed to include West Virginia because it was a "Union" state. I have spent an unreasonable amount of time on SEC message boards over the years and I honestly can say that I never once heard even a casual idiot fan make that argument. It's a super dumb theory imo.

Dude it was a joke, the SEC invited Missouri because they needed another team and St. Louis was the biggest media market available.

I dare you guys to make these osu cases in bama: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...im-sister-says

OK. The only thing I remember hearing about WV was that its facilities sucked.

All of this. Riverman you're trying way too hard. We get it. You don't like Ohio State or Urban. We don't like you, either. Let's agree to disagree.

Again, nonsense. TC, you're better than that.

No one itt is even remotely qualified to process all of the variables that go into the statements above. Riverman acts like he's some authority but in reality he's just a pissed off Wichigan fan who can't get past the fact that it's a game and win or lose he still has to wake up every day, brush his Riverman teeth, eat his Riverman toast and go to his Riverman job. Those are facts. Most of the water cooler garbage he regurgitated itt are not facts, but his opinions.

Yes, the SEC has recently won titles. Funny, though, I don't remember much SEC banging pre 2003. Also, what can you tell me about the entire conference, as a whole, in comparison to other conferences? Surely you can't think that Vandy and Ole Miss are automatically deserving of ****. What about Florida? They are lighting it up at 3-5. Or Tennessee at 2-6. How about Kentucky and Arkansas, who are a combined 0-16.

Since you are so confident in your analysis, please provide the math behind your analysis that consists of every conference and every team and every game that they each play. Please take into account all variables including time of the game, date of the game, the weather, if the star QB got into a fight w his girlfriend, if the head coach got laid the night before, etc. I'm looking forward to what you come up with.

Alternatively, you could simply admit that your opinions are just like everyone else's (worthless) and you can start being a pro active, positive poster, instead of a complete db.

"Defies common sense" to not give the SEC champ an auto bid to the Title Game?! LOLOL. I don't think you understand how past events do not have bearing on future outcomes. That is likely why you are a bad gambler as well.
"Ooh! It's landed on red 15 consecutive times. It HAS to be black this time!"

What defies common sense is that you use the past as justification for your lame SEC blowjob + OSU hate, yet there is no team save Alabama that has more to slap their ***** on your face about than OSU over the past 10 years.

Cliffs: Riverman is a troll Wichigan fan who hates Ohio State and wants to have the sex w/ all things SEC.

you seem upset

Jesus Christ, Donniccolo spitting fire.

You'd better check that showboating Globetrotter algebra

lol at listing SEC teams with losing conference records.

um, zero-sum game dude. there are ghana be teams with losing records.

Game will be rigged beyond belief. Delany won't allowed OSU to lose.

Really hope ASU gets to play LSU in the Rose Bowl.

Where did this come from and why do you think LSU could even get a bid to the Rose Bowl? That would mean Alabama gets left out of the BCS since Auburn/Missouri have one BCS bid locked up and the SEC can only get two bids this year.

Maybe we get that Oregon Bama rose bowl match

What on earth is even going on in here

I'm assuming it will be the winners of the 4 major bowls, Sugar, Rose. Orange and Fiesta. Seems like the fairest and simplest way.

Entertainment. We have a good idea how things will play out per different result combos so, as we wait for the games to kickoff, it's time for an old fashioned shouting match. It's nice to throw a few stones at the SEC every now and again, keeps us all honest.