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03-05-2015 , 08:51 PM
seen Alegria live when i was a young pup

it was some good ****
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03-05-2015 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
With my third pick I'm doing something a little different. I was going back and forth between this and a painting, and while I really love the painting, it's not that much better than any other painting. This pick however, is something rather unique. It's something from what el rata calls "The Golden Era of Art."

I really like to be entertained. I love to watch TV, sports, movies, listen to music, broadway shows, etc; Entertaining myself has basically been my number 1 priority for most of my life. I have never been more entertained than from the following pick.

It's awe inspiring. It's many different types of art coming together to overwhelm the senses and bring on so many different emotions. If you've never been, then seriously shame on you.

I am drafting in the third round:

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I'm pretty sure based on previous statements, you only get to pick one show
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03-05-2015 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai-
Pick 15:

Guernica



I didn't really wanna take anything of Fanerio's list from OP, but I got sniped on Hamlet and don't really love anything else, so just going with the pure value. Pretty clearly the GOAT framed piece of artwork, and wanted to make sure it went before UNDRAFTED (which I really can't believe still hasn't been picked).

I'll say what we're all thinking... it looks weird as F, but that is part of the beauty, and understanding the historical context behind it just adds to it.

I asked my mum who has a PhD in Art History what her #1 would be and she picked this. Quite possibly literally the only time that credential will ever be useful to her in her entire life so I better not waste it.
lol'd
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03-05-2015 , 09:09 PM
You are going to need a big capsule to fit a whole circus into it.
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03-05-2015 , 09:12 PM
Why do some drafters get to pick whole runs of TV series, but some others cannot pick the complete works of Shakespeare?
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03-05-2015 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Why do some drafters get to pick whole runs of TV series, but some others cannot pick the complete works of Shakespeare?
you should be able to pick any works of shakespeare in the same connected universe
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03-05-2015 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Why do some drafters get to pick whole runs of TV series, but some others cannot pick the complete works of Shakespeare?
Seinfeld is one TV show. It's not the complete works of Jerry Seinfeld. If we allowed compete works then it'd just be an artist draft.
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03-05-2015 , 09:18 PM
Would be cool if people just drafted artwork and didn't force a nitfest.
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03-05-2015 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Why do some drafters get to pick whole runs of TV series, but some others cannot pick the complete works of Shakespeare?
Seem's pretty obvious to me

If there was a "Hamlet 2" you could probably take both as one pick?

Last edited by Banzai-; 03-05-2015 at 09:19 PM. Reason: asdf undrafted
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03-05-2015 , 09:19 PM
If I need to pick a specific Cirque I'll go with O.
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03-05-2015 , 09:21 PM
So, like, a video of a performance? Ghana be hard for performers to survive centuries in a time capsule.
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03-05-2015 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
So, like, a video of a performance? Ghana be hard for performers to survive centuries in a time capsule.
We've already been over this with Hamlet, The opera, etc; The performance is part of the pick. The actually alien time capsule thing was not supposed to be the focus.
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03-05-2015 , 09:29 PM
Unless people want to make stuff like ballet, musical, etc undraftable. Then I'll pick something else.
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03-05-2015 , 09:32 PM
Nope, think your pick is fine and we can just posit the "full experience" without having to solve problems of human survival in outer space
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03-05-2015 , 09:37 PM
Capsule is a metaphor. If we can't understand that in an ART draft, then we have bigger problems.
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03-05-2015 , 10:04 PM
Us being dead and it being aliens who find the capsule is definitely relevant though. If the world was coming to and end, but not yet over then E.T. would be an elite pick so as to convince the aliens that we are good and worthy of being rescued. As is though, I feel comfortable mentioning it since others are mentioning undrafteds.
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03-05-2015 , 10:15 PM
hubble is an elite pick
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03-05-2015 , 10:17 PM
Round 3

I’m going to go with another “obvious” pick here, but it’s a monumental piece of art that fits quite neatly into themes that resonate in my first two picks. First of all, I wanted literature. Literature is oftentimes the clearest way we express complex ideas about our humanity. What is difficult about the time capsule scenario is that the aliens are devoid of any context for our selections so much of their impact may be lost on a distant observer. That’s why I liked picking the 9th early: it’s form and structure can still communicate the genius even if you haven’t listened to Bach and Mozart who came before Beethoven. That’s a lot of why I think Hamlet is a great pick for this, too. Even if the aliens don’t really get the finer points of European courts or jokes about “country matters,” the metered nature of the language will always stand out and is art per se. So I wanted literature that explored various ways in which we wrote, sampling structures and representing a pinnacle of writing as writing, even when some meanings may be missed.

The second idea I wanted to explore was thought. Obviously, with the Thinker, it’s something I value, and I want to reinforce it with my literature selection. How can writing help the aliens understand what Rodin emphasized in his statue? Who really got into the brain of humanity to show us how we worked?

Spoiler:
Ulysses, by James Joyce

Yeah yeah, widely praised book that no one has actually read because it’s too damn hard. Whatever. It’s a pinnacle of literary achievement.

Throughout the work, Joyce is extremely creative and particular in how he writes what he writes, to the point where any alternate verb conjugation would alter the ideas he’s trying to express. He uses all manner of forms of the written word to explore his themes, once even writing a chapter as if it were a catechism when playing around with ideas of indoctrination and putting the characters in their place in the universe and what they take for granted. Joyce writes with both meter and common slang, depending on the themes he’s working with. The section “The Oxen of the Sun” takes the reader on a literary stylistic journey spanning virtually all of literature in chronological order, making this an incredible history of literature in just one book. Granted, at some times it does just feel like Joyce was trying to outdo his own genius, but in effect, that’s exactly what he did.

His most striking form of writing is the stream of consciousness style. Never before had a writer so perfectly captured the way we think in written form. He records how our thoughts meander, even to the point of being unintelligible, but that’s who we are. We can be impulsive and irrational and emotional and yet also humorous, loving, and deep. Ulysses is very likely the best way for some distant alien to get into our heads and see how we tick.

And to top it all off, the novel is filled with a rich discussion on ideas of how we deal with life, with death, with love, with sex, with religion, with country, with our friends, and with our enemies. I do expect a lot of the allusions and puns will get lost in translation, but there is still so much here about the important things we face as humans that I can’t keep it out of my time capsule. Ulysses is a depiction of us in ways that only its art can show what the Wikipedia article cannot.
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03-05-2015 , 10:20 PM
wookie, that's a helluva write-up. bravo.
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03-05-2015 , 10:24 PM
I really like how Wookie's picks are complementing each other.

Everyone else has just kinda taken random art without really thinking about fit I think.
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03-05-2015 , 10:26 PM
Hell of a write up indeed. Inspiring me to give the 'ole tome another go.
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03-05-2015 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Seinfeld is one TV show. It's not the complete works of Jerry Seinfeld. If we allowed compete works then it'd just be an artist draft.
Ok, makes sense
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03-05-2015 , 10:30 PM
these got to be some troll picks right now

theres no way anyone ever has ever read and finished and enjoyed ullysses in any language in any place, ever
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03-05-2015 , 10:41 PM
fanerio, which case of tl;dr was more severe, in your estimation?
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03-05-2015 , 10:43 PM
i would have to state for the record that it was Ulysses

i wtf'ed and tl;dr'ed literally on paragraph 2

like i have read war and peace and brother karamazov and whatnot, but least they were in prose and were sick reads. ulysses is like a million word anatta post (i figured)
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